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North Korea Advertises Military Hardware On Twitter and YouTube, Defying Sanctions (vice.com)

eatmorekix shares a report from Motherboard: Glocom, a front company for the government of North Korea that sells sanctioned equipment, isn't giving up. In 2017, before YouTube quietly removed Glocom's channel, the company was advertising missile navigation and other military products on the video platform. But Glocom has returned. It setup a new channel, and also had a presence on Twitter, until Motherboard flagged Glocom's accounts to social media companies. The news not only signals the perseverance of parts of the North Korean's money-making enterprises, but also a slice of the content moderation issues that tech platforms constantly face. Glocom "is using them as platforms to market sanctions violating products," Shea Cotton, research associate at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies, and who has a particular focus on North Korea, told Motherboard in an email. A United Nations report says that Glocom is run by North Korean intelligence agents, even though it pitches itself as a Malaysian company.

Cotton said "this company continues to operate openly. Most DPRK [Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea] fronts, when exposed, usually fold or at the very least shut down and move their operations to another country and re-open under a new name. This one hasn't done that. We've seen them try to create this spin off brand called 'FACOM' and sell a few of their products under it but as you've seen their main brand is still thriving apparently."

61 comments

  1. who is buying? by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    Sanctions make it illegal to buy from them, but they don't make it illegal for them to try to sell. The real question is, who is buying all that hardware?

    --
    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    1. Re:who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      "but they don't make it illegal for them to try to sell." It makes facilitating the advertising of a sale illegal, yes it sure does. Lots of countries in Africa buy NK weapons. They're dirt cheap and the US won't sell to them.

    2. Re:who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It would only be illegal if North Korea were under anyone's legal authority. They aren't and can do what they like.

    3. Re:who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We are, then sell it to the "moderate rebels" in Africa and the middle east. We have to sell this stuff where it's being used. Then we launder the profits in political campaign financing.

      There's a whole "Iran-Contra" thing going on... pfft, like there's only one

    4. Re:who is buying? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1, Funny

      People who have oil-prince money to spend on international terror operations.

      It's time we spent an afternoon turning the DPRK military and missile test facilities into slag. It's a fake country that has no more reason to exist than East Germany did.

    5. Re:who is buying? by AHuxley · · Score: 2

      The same nations who buy a huge German computer controlled "lathe" for "vocational education" near a mil base.

      --
      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    6. Re:who is buying? by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

      It's time we spent an afternoon turning the DPRK military and missile test facilities into slag. It's a fake country that has no more reason to exist than East Germany did.

      Did you ever consider you are the reason so many countries have a completely legitimate desire for nuclear deterrence?

    7. Re: who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Son, that comment wreaks of communism. Turn your heart to Jesus and pass the ammo.

    8. Re: who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, might makes right.

    9. Re: who is buying? by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Yes, the people living under the boot of their NK theocrat/necrocrat/dictator really want him to have Nuclear weapons so that he can stand up to random Slashdot commenters.

    10. Re:who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It would only be illegal if North Korea were under anyone's legal authority" - North Korea has tentacles in other countries that do in fact respect US law and trade with us and want to maintain that relationship, so yeah, they are in that.

      Them "doing what they like" just ratchets up the pressure to increase sanctions on them, well, assuming the person "negotiating" that isn't a completely retarded traitor falling in love with dictators over Twitter.

    11. Re: who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When everyone else is playing by a set of rules and North Korea decides not to, everyone else is still playing by those same rules. That's kinda sorta how that whole "law" thing works.

      Imposing that law without consent is how sanctions work. And taxes, criminal justice, contract enforcement, the defense of liberty and property, application of military resources, and, well... Hey!

      Damn, that looks a lot like how modern Western civilization made it to the point where you can make a snarky internet comment by wiggling your fingers, exerting about the same amount of physical force to make your opinion known as the amount of energy it takes to fart.

      Fuck you and that twisted midget thing you call a high horse.

    12. Re: who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm glad you're finally able to admit you didn't know what you're talking about on the 737 Max8, which has now been grounded. Suck it. In your face you fakedick wanna-be-expert who doesn't actually know jack shit about it, lol.

    13. Re: who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This shit here. The stupidity of people these days is astonishing.

    14. Re:who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      facilitating the advertising

      fucking lawyers.

    15. Re: who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet the fact remains that they are doing what they want and there isn't a thing you or your government can do about it. North Korea doesn't answer to your laws.

    16. Re: who is buying? by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      This is slashdot, don't underestimate the energy people put into farting.

    17. Re: who is buying? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I can just imagine trying to explain slashdot to a North Korean.

      Or nuclear weapons, for that matter.

    18. Re: who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have become a moderator of /r/Pyongyang... no wait...

    19. Re: who is buying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Waaaait a minute... Is MSI from Northkorea? They make millitary class hardware according to their commercials!

  2. Start a war! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...seriously, that is what they're going to push for, isn't it?

    1. Re:Start a war! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think the solution to the Korean peninsula's hermit kingdom with nuclear weapons is war, eh? Welcome to the reality of the situation. At least you're not trying to suck Kim's dick like Donald happily boasts about, then expecting a change.

      But you're getting ahead of yourself, this isn't starting a war. All it's causing is another youtube channel to be shut down for violating the law. You know, the law? The thing we have, that North Korea doesn't? Rule of law?

      Heard of it?

    2. Re:Start a war! by bobbied · · Score: 2

      LOL.. You DO realize that they really do have laws in DPRK lots of laws in fact, what they lack is freedom access to information.

      Remember, they just re-elected Kim's party in an overwhelming majority and are in the process of rounding up anybody who voted the wrong way and shipping them off, along with their immediate family and any distant relatives who are suspect, to the "reeducation camps" where you make little rocks out of big ones.

      --
      "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    3. Re:Start a war! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You're an arrogant prick without much knowledge. But I guess you feel the Eisenhower / Kennedy / Johnson / Nixon / Ford / Carter / Reagan / Bush / Clinton / Bush / Obama strategy worked well. It failed.

      66 years of stalemate that resulted in NK building nuclear weapons. Congrats on that, asshole. You're the champion of failure and mediocrity.

      Trump may very well fail. But so did every one of his predecessors. At least a new tactic was tried.

      Fuck off.

    4. Re:Start a war! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have government EDICTS. They don't have laws, it's whatever Kim's family says is simply done, or someone is taken and shot up with anti-aircraft guns for refusing. "Laws" intone more than just orders and threats.

      " they just re-elected Kim's party in an overwhelming majority " - Calling it an "election" is another instance of foolishness.

      This is not elected leadership by any strain of an idiot's imagination, YMMV.

    5. Re: Start a war! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who're "they"? If you mean the Democraps and Neocunts, they've been at it since the Korean War was suspended.

      Orange man's idea of not wasting money on third world diet farms is bad. For Lockheed and friends.

    6. Re:Start a war! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody voted the wrong way. There was only one name on each ballot.

      Kim might be upset if his vote drops below 160% though. Could bring on "consequences".

    7. Re:Start a war! by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      He was not on the ballot. It was in the news.

      They only fake-elect a parliament, and he decided he's not going to get stuck wearing that hat anymore. His sister ran, though.

      It would be an insult to suggest that Rocket Boy had to stand for election for his main job. The parliament merely observes his greatness periodically.

  3. And the NSA is utterly unaware of this? by DallasTruaxxx · · Score: 1

    Do you suppose the NSA doesn't track who goes to these sites, orders product etc? Granted, you are not tracking the villains at the top of the food chain, but hey, take the easy wins when you can get them, right?

    1. Re:And the NSA is utterly unaware of this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This would be a DIA / State Dept. issue. NSA is a much broader general collection focus rather than specific issue analysis.

    2. Re:And the NSA is utterly unaware of this? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The NSA and GCHQ will follow every ip that looks at and attempts to buy the products.
      The CIA, MI6 and SAS will then take an interest later.

      --
      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  4. Treaties by JBMcB · · Score: 2

    Anyone who didn't sign the UN treaty on the sanctions. Probably Iran, Myanmar, Cuba, etc...

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    My Other Computer Is A Data General Nova III.
    1. Re:Treaties by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

      And they can't talk directly to each other? They have to find out from Youtube videos?

    2. Re:Treaties by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      All their direct communications are monitored, the ships with the delivery would be seized.

      They have to hide within the regular data stream somewhere and pretend to be from somewhere else. Like Malaysia.

      And they have trouble traveling without being monitored, too, so they can't just do it in person like most criminals.

  5. comment subject: by Falos · · Score: 1

    Missile technology is being sold on the facetweets. What a time to be alive.

    1. Re:comment subject: by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Pew Pew Pew Pew Pew!

      And the Leader of the Free World is an Orange-Skinned Lizard Creature; we haven't even figured out what planet it is from yet.

      At least weed is finally legal.

  6. Wrong site, innit? by virtig01 · · Score: 2

    Twitter? Isn't this kind of thing more appropriate for Etsy?

    "Handmade by local artisans, not by a big corporation. Our carbon footprint is 5x lower than other countries in the region."

  7. Who says capitalism is only for capitalists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it some sort of religion or something? "Do exactly as we say or get sanctioned"? The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Apparently, this "freedom" thing only goes if you toe the capitalist party line.

    Yes, playing devil's advocate here. But do try and explain this one, like I'm five if that makes you feel better. Go on, try it.

  8. Looks like Trump's little buddy is a busy boy by Miles_O'Toole · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Short of waving his pecker in Donald Trump's face, is there anything more blatant Kim Jong Un could to to show the US he will do whatever he likes, and because he has nukes, there's sweet FA the US can do about it?

    --
    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
    1. Re:Looks like Trump's little buddy is a busy boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We absolutely (actually, really) do have the capacity to both neutralize anything coming out of North Korea towards the US/Hawaii, (not Guam, sadly) but the repercussions of Kim nuking Southeast Asia would be... costly.

      And even if by a 100 out of 100-sided die rolls Kim lost his nuclear arsenal without using it, his conventional arsenal would bombard Seoul to shit in 30 minutes, unless the US literally carpet bombed 1000 square miles of NK.

      And then there's the cleanup. It's strictly break it / bought it at this point, we're talking nuclear/chemical/biohazard problems... yikes. A REAL total war in 2020 is a scary concept no matter how overwhelmingly we would win it.

      That's the reality. There is no winning.

    2. Re:Looks like Trump's little buddy is a busy boy by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      How about rebuild the launch platform he said he scrapped?

      Oh, wait...

    3. Re:Looks like Trump's little buddy is a busy boy by Aighearach · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Japan does have missile defense, and in a war in Korea, Seoul is the prize, they wouldn't want to nuke it. There isn't much else for them to shoot at other than Guam or Hawaii.

      The whole "bombard Seoul to shit in 30 minutes" stuff is a load of math-challenged crap. They have n artillery pieces, but in a war they have to aim most of them at the enemy artillery pieces, or in the 30 minutes they don't even have artillery anymore. They have lots of artillery pieces, but the number believed to be aimed to Seoul is more like "dozens."

      And if they did aim it all at Seoul, artillery doesn't destroy a city that fast. With artillery it takes continuous bombardment for months to level a city; in 30 minutes you're not even knocking down buildings. People moved away from the exposed side of buildings in the first few minutes, and are taking shelter on the far sides and in basements. You would have thousands of casualties, sure, but not millions.

      It isn't like they can send waves of bombers over the city or anything like that.

      Carpet bombing wouldn't be needed to stop it, they have computers that observe the artillery fire and calculate the location. Some of it is dug in, but accurate return fire still plugs the cave they're firing out of.

  9. Krazy Kim's Korean Surplus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kome on down! Big discount on ballistic - err- "model" rocket tubes. Only used once! @KrazyKimsSurplus

  10. Rule 1: Don't take the villain out of the closet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A villain is very useful, when it's not going so well at home. You need him more than he needs you.

    Stupid Bush already took the villain out of the closet It took a lot of work, and all of the Talba...err...IS and even Russia to come back from the dead, to get bet a viable "threat".

    Don't do it again. When left without some abstract vague scapegoat to hate, people will start finding their real enemy. And that will be you, dear NSA.

    -- An unnamed NSA international intelligence strategy consultant. ... Maybe. ;)

  11. Can someone explain... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is North Korea not allowed to sell military hardware but the US can sell trillions of dollars worth to Saudi Arabia?
    Oh yeah, cuz HYPOCRISY!

  12. Who's surprised? by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 0

    Malaysia sucks NorK dick.

    --
    "The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
  13. Re:Trump literally will die a traitor, you're a mo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Warmonger much?

  14. FACOM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facom was a Fujitsu brandname selling IBM-compatible mainframe computers in the 1980s. I'd expect Fujitsu still owns the trademark, and they'd probably be peeved that North Korea was infringing on their trademark.

    1. Re:FACOM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In another IP domain, FACOM is also a century old hand tools brand well known in Europe (FACOM means société "Franco-Américaine de Construction d'Outillage Mécanique" (Franco-American Mechanics' Tool Production Company))

  15. Re:Trump literally will die a traitor, you're a mo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some wars are justified. Others are not. Knowing the difference is more than Trump has the mental capacity for - or you.

  16. Where can I place an order? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I find humorous is that they don't give potential customers like me a means of placing and order. I don't want to buy US arms given my fight is with the US government. Nowhere on the site did I find anything about payment or Bitcoin or a Tor onion site. Am I actually expected to email them for that information? shh I'll go elsewhere. But defying the US is a great joy of mine. Fuck those who bow down and give up every ounce of freedom for the promise of a little temporary safety [which is also total bull shit].

  17. Advertising by JBMcB · · Score: 1

    I'm guessing North Korea doesn't keep tabs on exactly who doesn't care about UN treaties. Rebel and guerilla groups, terrorist organizations, shady governments - there are all kinds of potential customers for their weapons. I don't think they particularly care to whom they sell.

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    My Other Computer Is A Data General Nova III.
  18. Re:Trump literally will die a traitor, you're a mo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In fact Kim's autocratic regime of goons has been LEGITIMIZED

    How?

    Was that like during the Olympics the Koreans marching under a "united flag" (when Trump? Or when the media fawned over the NK singing troupe?

  19. Re:Trump literally will die a traitor, you're a mo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when trump was threatening Rocket man*

  20. Wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you suggesting that David Pecker, head of American Media Corp., is actually a stooge for Kim Jong Un?

    Cool! Terrible! Cool! Terrible! Er, I'm a little conflicted here...

  21. Validity of Parent Post? by Lando17 · · Score: 1

    Anyone with a military background able to comment on the validity of the parent post?

  22. wtf UN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    arrest of commerce = communism