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The Hottest Chat App for Teens is Google Docs (theatlantic.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: As more and more laptops find their way into middle and high schools, educators are using Google Docs to do collaborative exercises and help students follow along with the lesson plan. The students, however, are using it to organize running conversations behind teachers' backs. Teens told me they use Google Docs to chat just about any time they need to put their phone away but know their friends will be on computers. Sometimes they'll use the service's live chat function, which doesn't open by default, and which many teachers don't even know exists. Or, they'll take advantage of the fact that Google allows users to highlight certain phrases or words, then comment on them via a pop-up box on the right side: They'll clone a teacher's shared Google document, then chat in the comments, so it appears to the causal viewer that they're just making notes on the lesson plan. If a teacher approaches to take a closer look, they can click the "Resolve" button and the entire thread will disappear.

If the project isn't a collaborative one, kids will just create a shared document where they'll chat line by line in what looks like a paragraph of text. "People will just make a new page and talk in different fonts so you know who is who," Skyler said. "I had one really good friend and we were in different homerooms. So, we'd email each other a doc and would just chat about whatever was going on." At the end of class, they just delete a doc or resolve all the comments. Rarely does anyone save them the way previous generations may have stored away paper notes from friends.

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  1. Here's why: by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's no lack of equity in the tools that any of the teachers, students, or indeed, any of us have.

    Teachers don't have a mainframe and students dumb terminals.

    No, instead we have CaptainDork's Corollary: "For every motherfucker out there with a computer, there's another motherfucker out there with a computer."

    In an essentially P2P architecture, it's a level playing field.

    The students are just a lot more imaginative, creative, and innovative, and connected than the teachers.

    Because the student population is larger than the teacher headcount, simple math predicts that the students are more capable.

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    1. Re:Here's why: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      >The students are just a lot more imaginative, creative, and innovative, and connected than the teachers.

      Last year, my wife and I had to go to the principal's office to discuss how our son (grade 4) hacked the iPads to install games for all the kids to play. As it turns out, he showed his friends how to disable the WiFi so that they could play the Chrome dinosaur game. The fact that no one at the school could even understand what he'd done was pretty telling.

    2. Re:Here's why: by aaronb1138 · · Score: 2

      That should lead straight to a conversation that either their IT people were idiots or your son is a high functioning 1337 hacker genius. Either way, nothing for them to punish him over.

  2. Not just laptops by DickBreath · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Chromebooks are popular in schools now. And by popular, I mean with the school districts.

    Chromebooks are cheap. The district can negotiate with multiple hardware manufacturers for volume discounts. A Chromebook is easily replaced if lost, stolen or eaten. All of the student's "cloud based" course work and assignments are instantly on the new Chromebook as soon as the student logs in. The Chromebooks are easily reset -- even remotely, for the next incoming school year. With Cloud Print, students -- or faculty -- can print to various printers in the school to which they are given access. Access to everything on a Chromebook is centrally controlled once the district joins new Chromebook hardware to their Google account.

    Now given the above, THAT is the biggest reason why I see Google Docs as a chat application. If everyone had Windows or Macs they could use other potential chat applications.

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    1. Re:Not just laptops by found404 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's the same reason Windows Notepad is my fav "chat" application... when I log into someone else's Windows machine with Teamviewer. It isn't about students being clever (as some posts suggests), it's about finding the easiest solution to a problem. We work with what we have.

      > THAT is the biggest reason why I see Google Docs as a chat application.

    2. Re:Not just laptops by eaglesrule · · Score: 2

      Not only are chromebooks nice cheap disposable laptops, but Google apps for education provides a nice enterprise management console for dealing with them that allows for app deployment based on inherited permissions under an OU style hierarchy. Pretty handy when every department seems to have their own suite of special programs, and just dropping the device object into its folder takes care of it.

      Then there's browser extensions like Securely that integrate into chrome that serves as web content filtering and keyword detection. Students sexting during class? Yeah, some admin is going to get an email about that.

  3. Gwave by bohmt · · Score: 4, Funny

    So they reinvented Google Wave

  4. Why would you save it? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Rarely does anyone save them the way previous generations may have stored away paper notes from friends.

    Kids aren't stupid. They see people almost being denied a supreme court seat because they once had a beer while in school.

    Under such circumstances, would the natural inclination not be to go totally dark? To leave no permanent record of your existence to critique, so that at any time you could conform to the current popular GroupThink?? No wonder SnapChat is also so popular.

    The only mistake they are making I would say, is in trusting Google to actually delete something... but Google has the tools they need - for the moment.

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    1. Re:Why would you save it? by Mark+of+the+North · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They see people almost being denied a supreme court seat because they once had a beer while in school.

      Whoa! That must be some super thick syrupy Kool-Aid you are drinking there.

      The reason justice Kavanaugh was taken to task, was not that he had a beer, it is that he lied about his conduct, which included heavy drinking and mistreatment of female students.

      The recent admissions scandal story makes a nice addendum to justice Kavanaugh's appointment.

    2. Re:Why would you save it? by lgw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think this is the biggest generational flip between the Millennials and the Digital Natives: their attitude towards privacy. Here's hoping that the kids also grow up not caring at all about social media outrage and snowflake sensitivity.

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    3. Re: Why would you save it? by kenh · · Score: 2

      Kids using Google Docs are simply doing what their parents did when they were in school - pass a page around and everyone took a turn adding to the sheet.

      What's old is new again.

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  5. The hottest, you say? by chispito · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So some kids found a creative workaround for communicating during class? And that qualifies as the "hottest chat app for teens," does it?

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  6. Now the real test by MikeRT · · Score: 2

    Have someone flip the power switch on the router and tell them to bring up MS Word, WordPad or even Notepad and spend 30 minutes writing a grammatically correct 4 paragraph introduction to a prospective employer arguing why you are a fit for the position**

    ** "Yes, you an make up all your quals, but it needs to read like a young man or woman is approaching a job as a respectable potential employee."

    Sit back and watch the mayhem that ensues outside of those districts that still have parents and teachers that don't think like this:

    Those in their mid-30s today came of age on the cusp of the digital revolution. Many older Millennials didn’t have internet at home until high school, didn’t join social networking sites until college, and didn’t get an iPhone until they had already begun their careers. The arrival of Generation Z into the workplace is showing Millennials what a true digital native looks like.

    1. Re:Now the real test by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 2

      >teachers that don't think like this [nytimes.com]

      Jesus, H. I fit their demographic, but there's no way I would sign up to that sort of misery party. There's nothing new in tech, they just keep moving the deck chairs in ever smaller circles.

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  7. Just like being in jail, they'll find ways to talk by TheHawke · · Score: 2

    You shut people off from the world, they'll find ways to get messages in and out.

    Let them chat.

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  8. Re:Just like being in jail, they'll find ways to t by fufufang · · Score: 2

    You shut people off from the world, they'll find ways to get messages in and out.

    Let them chat.

    Alternatively make the lessons interesting, so nobody can be bothered to chat.

  9. Re:Just like being in jail, they'll find ways to t by eaglesrule · · Score: 2

    When attendance is mandatory, it guarantees a portion of those will have no interest in learning.