Slashdot Mirror


Pilot Who Hitched a Ride Saved Lion Air 737 Day Before Deadly Crash (bloomberg.com)

As the Lion Air crew fought to control their diving Boeing 737 Max 8, they got help from an unexpected source: an off-duty pilot who happened to be riding in the cockpit. Bloomberg reports: That extra pilot, who was seated in the cockpit jumpseat, correctly diagnosed the problem and told the crew how to disable a malfunctioning flight-control system and save the plane, according to two people familiar with Indonesia's investigation. The next day, under command of a different crew facing what investigators said was an identical malfunction, the jetliner crashed into the Java Sea killing all 189 aboard.

The previously undisclosed detail on the earlier Lion Air flight represents a new clue in the mystery of how some 737 Max pilots faced with the malfunction have been able to avert disaster while the others lost control of their planes and crashed. The presence of a third pilot in the cockpit wasn't contained in Indonesia's National Transportation Safety Committee's Nov. 28 report on the crash and hasn't previously been reported. The so-called dead-head pilot on the earlier flight from Bali to Jakarta told the crew to cut power to the motor driving the nose down, according to the people familiar, part of a checklist that all pilots are required to memorize.
Further reading: Flawed Analysis, Failed Oversight: How Boeing, FAA Certified the Suspect 737 MAX Flight Control System.

5 of 353 comments (clear)

  1. Imagine if that had been Frank Abagnale by Lucas123 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Abagnale would pose as a pilot to sit in airline jump seats and get a free ride. I don't know why, but the image of the pilot turning to him for help just crossed my mind.

    1. Re:Imagine if that had been Frank Abagnale by Calydor · · Score: 5, Funny

      And yet he might go, "Holy shit, we're all gonna die if I don't do something! What kind of fixes do I know about for electronics? Alright. Turn it all off and back on."

      And judging from the summary that just might have worked.

      --
      -=This sig has nothing to do with my comment. Move along now=-
  2. Re: So, pilot error? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If pilots need additional training to fly planes that have the default behavior of trying to crash every time they take off, I think the root of the problem is with the plane.

    If the training only consists by design of operating an iPad for 50hrs, I also think the problem is first with the plane.

  3. Boeing 737 MAX Hidden Settings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    https://i.imgur.com/YwuKQkp.png

  4. Re:So, pilot error? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    MCAS: It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead [or you disable it].