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Airline Passenger Walked Past Security With a Loaded Gun Magazine (apnews.com)
An airline passenger "passed a security checkpoint with a loaded gun magazine," reports the Associated Press, citing information from an airport duty manager:
Bob Rotiski said the passenger who apparently had visited a shooting range packed a loaded magazine in his carry-on bag. He said an officer identified the magazine during security screening, but the wrong bag was pulled from the line. By that time, the passenger had already left the checkpoint with the bag containing the magazine....
Security lines were closed and flights were temporarily grounded at a San Francisco International Airport terminal...for nearly an hour, and United Airline flights out of Terminal 3 were grounded Saturday morning as TSA officers looked for the passenger.
"Rotiski said the lines reopened after officers located the passenger and brought him back for re-screening."
Security lines were closed and flights were temporarily grounded at a San Francisco International Airport terminal...for nearly an hour, and United Airline flights out of Terminal 3 were grounded Saturday morning as TSA officers looked for the passenger.
"Rotiski said the lines reopened after officers located the passenger and brought him back for re-screening."
Ain't nothing more entertaining than the play that is security theater.
No one cares about a loaded magazine as there is no firearm.
Ship them all day long in the belly of the plane as well.
Govenment security is no security, all they do is clean up after, so stop begging for them.
Protect yourselves instead, openly carry your own defensive arms to discourage maldoers.
Choose insured airlines that have their own private security that you can inspect and audit freely publicly at will without top secrets.
THEN and ONLY then will you ever have actual security.
"Rotiski said the lines reopened after officers located the passenger and brought him back for re-screening."
By which time he could have passed off anything else he was carrying to anyone else in the departure lounges who were already "past security" and they could have easily taken it onto a plane.
Well done guys.
I'm not surprised that this happened. I am surprised that they actually figured out who it was *before* he got on a plane. That level of competence is a little out of character for the TSA.
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It doesn't say... I could have loaded .22 pellet magazines in my luggage, who does that bother?
I'll sure be glad when they finally catch all the terrorists & we can go back to normal.
Any day now.
1. They did identify the clip
2. But they searched the wrong bag.
WOuld you, as a hijacker, think that was a great way to smuggle in a gun? No. while (2) happened it's a low probability event. Not something you would count on.
Thus as a deterrent for overt attacks this is worked. Not saying the process can't somehow be subverted in some other way but this particular example is not a good one to point at and yell "security theater".
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Unless its being used as an improvised 'brass knuckle' to punch someone with. Without the firearm that fits it, a magazine (i.e. 'clip'), is useless...loaded or not. Duh.
Reality: He would have gotten on the plane had a crappy meal, a fraction of a can of Coke(tm) and arrived at his destination. A disaster was not averted. 100's of lives were not saved. A government rule was enforced. Nothing more.
TSA headline: Our agent heroes saved you AGAIN! Countless lives saved and counting. btw. We demanddeserve another 10 billion in funding.
On top of all that, it's not a gun.
if neither of us had a gun in the first place, we would both still be alive.
If someone really wanted to shoot you, why would they not figure out a ways to kill you otherwise?
The myth that without guns there are not deaths is especially absurd. It just means you are less likely to be able to defend yourself, especially if you are weaker physically than your attacker.
That has been the great boon of firearms - it equalizes your ability of defense in cases where others that seek you harm either outnumber you physically or numerically. It helped bring true freedom to blacks across the U.S. and it helps prevent tens of thousand of rapes per year today. That's why you should support the second amendment, not because it prevents others from doing YOU harm, but it prevents others from doing the powerless harm.
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What a stupid non-story.
how did they figure out who this passenger was? timestamps on video correlated to the ticket scan at the TSA agent at the start of the security line? sounds like TSA can monitor every passenger that passes through any airport at any time.
And you thought China was bad.
-dk
Try security camera aimed at the X-ray machine's output end; where people actually take their belongings back. Would be nice to know, in other situations, who the someone is that stole my laptop. In this situation, they know which bag they really wanted (an off by one error) and saw who took it.
The response was moronic. What could he have done with it? Hit someone over the head? A pocket knife is more of a threat. It's like our entire society is being reduced to the level of children.
It's not even dangerous ffs. You could do more damage bludgeoning someone with an iphone.
Youâ(TM)re pretty naive if thatâ(TM)s news to you. I figure thatâ(TM)s the least of what theyâ(TM)re doing to track people.
This is my only problem with NSA/TSA. They will use their powers for the children, and their jobs, and terrorists - but mostly seem unwilling to use their powers to help us out.
I know the NSA could've cracked down on ransomware harder. Just throw us a fucking bone. And give this guy his laptop back.
what is the downside of all of this tracking?
-dk
There's gajillions of things more dangerous, ounce-per-ounce... brake fluid, gallium, several solvents.
When I was going to build a primitive gun, I did a muzzleloader. I made my black powder from scratch, starting with wood.
Loss of civil liberties and freedom.
Just because you don't care doesn't mean that many of us care a great deal about these things.
Back in 2006 when we still had the color coded threat levels, I flew from PHX to LAS and back to PHX during a red/severe period. Because it was a quick day trip I only had a carry on bag and that bag happened to be a backpack I had used the week before to go shooting. In that bag was a full 19 round magazine of 9mm FMJ that I had stuffed into a side pocket and forgotten to remove before the trip. I made it through 2 different airport security lines and xray machines without it being noticed or stopped. I didn't even notice I had left it in there myself until I got home and unpacked. However they damn sure got the bottle of contact lens cleaner I had in the same bag.
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Testing show that lots of guns walk thru tsa checkpoints never being found.
I had been to the firing range the day before and had rented a .50 cal hand cannon. I also purchased the bullets at $1.50 a pop. I bought 2 boxes of 10. But after firing 15 of them down range, my wrist could not take firing any more. I turned the gun in and put the 5 bullets in my coat pocket as the firing range is not heated and this was during winter time.
The next day I was taking a trip and made it to the airport. I walked though the scanner with my coat on with no problems. As I am walking through the terminal to the gate, I take my wallet out of my back pocket so I am not sitting on it the entire plane ride and put it in my coat pocket. I notice I still have 5 bullets from the previous day. I start to panic as I see all types of police rushing me and tackling me to the ground in my mind. I casually make my way to the men's room and dump the bullets in the trash.
I never heard any word about the janitorial staff finding bullets in a major airport bathroom....