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Europe Passes Controversial Online Copyright Reforms (venturebeat.com)

EU lawmakers today endorsed an overhaul of the bloc's two-decade old copyright rules, which will force Google and Facebook to pay publishers for use of news snippets and make them filter out protected content. From a report: The set of copyright rules known as the Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market, but more succinctly as the EU Copyright Directive, has been debated and discussed for several years. While it is broadly uncontroversial in many regards, there are two facets to the directive that has caused the internet to freak out. Article 11, which has been dubbed the "link tax," stipulates that websites pay publishers a fee if they display excerpts of copyrighted content -- or even link to it. This obviously could have big ramifications for services such as Google News. Then there is Article 13, dubbed the "upload filter," which would effectively make digital platforms legally liable for any copyright infringements on their platform, which has stoked fears that it would stop people from sharing content -- such as GIF-infused memes -- on social networks. In a statement, EFF said, "In a stunning rejection of the will five million online petitioners, and over 100,000 protestors this weekend, the European Parliament has abandoned common-sense and the advice of academics, technologists, and UN human rights experts, and approved the Copyright in the Digital Single Market Directive in its entirety."

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  1. See guys? by Narcocide · · Score: 5, Funny

    I told you this is what would happen if we let regular people use computers.

  2. Not democracy by MrL0G1C · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Laws not written by the people for the people, the EU showing it doesn't give a fuck about democracy.

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    1. Re:Not democracy by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Well, if this does stand....I think this might actually be the first legitimate situation where companies such as Google, etc....pull their servers OUT of Europe, or at least out of EU countries so they aren't beholden to such stifling laws?

      I mean, EU countries can still reach Google, but without servers there in those countries, it might be milliseconds slower, but not noticeable by most humans using them?

      Hell, if Brexit happens, Google could move them all to England, eh?

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    2. Re: Not democracy by cyber-vandal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The US government deciding it doesn't like the results of democratic elections has led to a lot of authoritarian governments.

    3. Re: Not democracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      As an artist with multiple music projects, fuck you. I now have to worry about when my music will get falsely registered with ContentID & friends and I get blackmailed for it. Oh, or I can register with a local RIAA alternative, which doesn't actually redistribute money to anyone not signed to a major deal while completely killing any chance for a tour.

      Yeah, I'm thrilled to be "protected".

    4. Re:Not democracy by jabuzz · · Score: 5, Informative

      The parliament is democratically elected. Next election being in May.

      The council is composed of elected ministers, one from each member state.

      The commissioners are civil servants (and civil servants are not elected in any country I have ever heard of) that are appointed by the council.

      More either uninformed or deliberate misinformation.

    5. Re:Not democracy by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Informative

      An unseen group of unelected bureaucrats that are not under any elected control. Who runs them? Who knows?

      Laws a proposed by the Commission, which is made up of representatives appointed by each member state's government, which in turn is made up of people you elect.

      They are a civil service, similar to how politicians on most member states don't actually write the laws themselves, they have civil servants write them and then review and ask for changes.

      The idea is that the Commission takes direction from the Council, which is made up of member states' leaders (i.e. people you elected), comes up with proposals that they think will make things better and puts them to the Parliament. The Parliament can reject them or ask for changes if necessary.

      In addition, member states have vetoes in many cases, including anything which requires a new treaty to implement.

      Also, if the Parliament doesn't like what the Commission or the Council is doing, it can get rid of them. That happened in 1999. The Parliament is DIRECTLY elected by citizens of member states.

      If you don't know this it's because you are wilfully ignorant.

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  3. Goodbye suckerberg! by Just+A+Gigolo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hope they pull facebook from europe good!

  4. So long and thanks for all the fish by thereddaikon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We all know how this will end. Google, Facebook et al are going to just drop all EU content and depending on how aggressive the individual laws are may even just block entire countries outright. They aren't going to give up their business model over this, it will be Spain all over again and soon Euro IP's will be blocked from /. Its been fun Euro users, may we meet again some day.

    1. Re:So long and thanks for all the fish by jeti · · Score: 4, Informative

      And ContentID is a horrible failure. Blackmailing Youtube channels with the threat of illegitimate copyright claims against them has become a valid business model.

  5. It doesn't affect fake news by Cassini2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This means that I can't link to any legitimate news site. However, fake news sites are fair game ...

    1. Re:It doesn't affect fake news by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sadly, as works of fiction, fake news is still protected by copyright.

  6. UK here by MrL0G1C · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wouldn't blame any company for completely blocking all uploads of anything including text / comments, this law simply isn't workable, it's complete censorship. Fucking idiot politicians and yes I contacted my meps about this more than once.

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    1. Re:UK here by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problem with the EU parliament basically is that everyone who is not smart enough to be allowed to run for a local government (regional, like a City or a federal state), not influencing enough to run for a country parliament (France, Germany etc.) but pestering enough is put on the list for the EU elections.
      Basically 90% of all people in the EU parliament are failed wanna be parlimentarians for regional or country parliaments.
      Usually you would assume, you have a strict ladder of competence, city civilian servant first, then regional parliament, then federal state parliament, then state parliament then EU parliament.

      Fact is: in the EU parliament only idiots end up ... because no one want them on the voting lists for the parliaments below.

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  7. Goodbye, EU by mveloso · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The internet was built around two basic principles: links are free and you can upload everything and sort out the mess later.

    Now really, what's the rationale behind charging for a hyperlink, even if no content is displayed? Greed? Stupidity? Idiocy?

    I suppose this is European content providers trying to build a wall around their "internet?"

  8. Very easy fix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is very easy to fix. All search engines and websites in general boycott publishers that backed this and that would demand payment for linking/snipping by simply removing all links to them, period. No search results. No links from other websites. Let's see how long publishers survive when nobody can find their shit.

    The end result? The publishers will be begging the EU to reverse this.

  9. As a copyright holder, this is awful by gillbates · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I sell art online, and without search engines indexing my copyrighted material, would find it very difficult to make a living as an artist. A blanket prohibition on linking to copyrighted content would effectively "disappear" a lot of emerging and professional artists from the internet. The internet - and its ability to reach millions of people - has made it possible for countless artists to make a living who would otherwise be unknown. Without it, we'd go back to handing control over art back to the local, physical galleries and the "starving artist" model.

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    1. Re:As a copyright holder, this is awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
      TFA blows things a out of proportion as usually. If we don't want to be labelled trolls and mob, because the points we make are in fact strawmen, we should at least stick to some truth.

      Hyperlinks to news articles, accompanied by “individual words or very short extracts”, can be shared freely

      As sharing snippets of news articles is specifically excluded from the scope of the directive, it can continue exactly as before. However, the directive also contains provisions to avoid news aggregators abusing this. The ‘snippet’ can therefore continue to appear in a Google News newsfeeds, for example, or when an article is shared on Facebook, provided it is “very short”.
      Uploading protected works for quotation, criticism, review, caricature, parody or pastiche has been protected even more than it was before, ensuring that memes and Gifs will continue to be available and shareable on online platforms.

      The text also specifies that uploading works to online encyclopedias in a non-commercial way, such as Wikipedia, or open source software platforms, such as GitHub, will automatically be excluded from the scope of this directive. Start-up platforms will be subject to lighter obligations than more established ones.

      From the official press release http://www.europarl.europa.eu/...

      The issues that you may have to face is how much of your work would be free to use by platforms like google. After all, the press release says nothing about images. It only talks about hyperlinks, which are allowed and short texts. But of course for your case that won't be helpful. You'd like previews of your art to be displayed. What category would that fall under? I can't say. If you're in doubt you'd probably have to declare somewhere that all your stuff is free to use by anyone.

  10. Copyright exists to HARM artists! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously? You still believe that Copyright "protects artists"?

    We had such a law in Germany. The Urheberrecht! An author's privilege law! Implicit and non-transferable too!

    Copyright is a *distributor's privilege*! To take power *away* from artists. By the same distributors that regularly try to *lower* the meaningless peanuts that artists get from the cake.

    If you had ever been an artist, you'll know that they get their money from gigs and merchandising, and it has been shown time and time again, that if they just share all their works as a form of marketing, they make *more* money, than they ever did from copyright!

    I've worked in the organized crime called "media industry" for two decades now. My mentor did since the 60s. We've personally seen it all. EMI bosses *requiring* hookers and blow to even consider negoating contracts. Band after band hooked on contracts, sucked dry, and thrown away. Designer after designer used, madr money from, and laughing in his face when he has to go buy his own work in the shop and license it, to be even able to play with it. Even parties that turned into "Wolf of Wall Street"-style "basically mass-rape" orgies.

    And we both agree that the ENTIRE "media industry" thing is just cokehead paranoia and overconfidence turned into a "business", and is, will be, and has always been solely for the purpose of leeching on artists and their fans without doing any value-adding work whatsoever yourself.

    So excuse me if I, in the name of all artists ever, give you a big fat FUCK YOU from the middle of my fingers.

  11. Easy Way To Solve The Problem by pollarda · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google / FB just requires a new HTML header that explicitly gives them permission. If the header isnâ(TM)t there, Google just displays the link and no additional information. As soon as the media outlets watch their views plummet they will either add the header or demand the law be changed immediately.

  12. Re:No there's not. This is the EU. by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, that's why the EU parliament is essentially powerless. It's mostly a dump for politicians you can't keep at home because they're a liability and you can't just fire because they know too much. Essentially, it's what we came up with when political murder went out of fashion.

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