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Google Employees Are Lining Up To Trash Google's AI Ethics Council (technologyreview.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from MIT Technology Review: Almost a thousand Google staff, academic researchers, and other tech industry figures have signed a letter protesting the makeup of an independent council that Google created to guide the ethics of its AI projects. The search giant announced the creation of the council last week at EmTech Digital, MIT Technology Review's event in San Francisco. Known as the Advanced Technology External Advisory Council (ATEAC), it has eight members including economists, philosophers, policymakers, and technologists with expertise in issues like algorithmic bias. It is meant to hold four meetings a year, starting this month, and write reports designed to provide feedback on projects at the company that use artificial intelligence.

But two of those members proved controversial. One, Dyan Gibbens, is CEO of Trumbull, a company that develops autonomous systems for the defense industry -- a contentious choice given that thousands of Google employees protested the company's decision to supply the US Air Force with AI for drone imaging. The greatest outrage, though, has come over the inclusion of Kay Coles James, president of the Heritage Foundation, a think tank that opposes regulating carbon emissions, takes a hard line on immigration, and has argued against the protection of LGBTQ rights. The creation of ATEAC -- and the inclusion of Gibbens and James -- may in fact have been designed to appease Google's right-wing critics. At roughly the same time the council was announced, Sundar Pichai, Google's CEO, was meeting with President Donald Trump. Trump later tweeted: "He stated strongly that he is totally committed to the U.S. Military, not the Chinese Military. [We] also discussed political fairness and various things that Google can do for our Country. Meeting ended very well!"
"Not only are James' views counter to Google's stated values," the letter states, "but they are directly counter to the project of ensuring that the development and application of AI prioritizes justice over profit. Such a project should instead place representatives from vulnerable communities at the center of decision-making."

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  1. So misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "and has argued against the protection of LGBTQ rights"

    No, he opposes special laws just for LGBTQ people. They shouldn't get special treatment or special laws. That's not how it works, we're all to be treated equally under the law.

    1. Re:So misleading by EndlessNameless · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Care to explain why its ridiculous while two chicks marrying each other is not?

      I'm not the original AC, but this is easy enough to answer that I'll step in.

      Marriage is a legal agreement, and it requires legal consent. Legal consent generally requires an adult of sound mind.

      Thus, an equitable society will allow marriage between a man and a woman, two women, or two men. Marriage of children, animals, and objects is not sensible because none of them can provide legal consent.

      So, if you're looking for a clear line---here it is. On the other hand, if you're just trying to justify your bigotry... don't bother. No justification will make it less repulsive.

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    2. Re:So misleading by Shaitan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hopefully so, that would be a moderate position. Ideally there would be no left or right extremes represented but only moderates. TFS seems to advocate for all one extreme, Google seems to have gone for a blend of left and left center.

  2. Why even have a council at all.. by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Looking at the furor over simply having someone with a slightly different point of view be able to speak and take part in decision making, it appears that humans are absolutely garbage at ethics determinations and probably we should just let the AI do whatever, it'll probably end up better than us at reasonable behavior.

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  3. So, only lefties then? by nwaack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "How DARE they include people who aren't politically aligned to the far left! They'll run amok with their wrong think, mansplaining and **insert -phobic word of the week here.** Dissenting views will not be tolerated in our AI discussions!!!"

    My god, the hypocrisy is overwhelming.

  4. Tolerance for me, but not for thee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The ethics of only hearing approved viewpoints and opinions.

    How very fascistic of Goolag.

  5. So Google has 1000s of alt-leftists by guruevi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Color me surprised. It's illegal to discriminate against people based on their political views in California so these signatories, if holding a managerial position could be putting the company at great risk of a lawsuit.

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    1. Re:So Google has 1000s of alt-leftists by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's illegal to discriminate against people based on their political views in California

      Ideological discrimination only applies to hiring and employment. Appointment to an advisory panel is neither.

      Furthermore, political views are only protected if they are about public policy. So views on discretionary corporate behavior are unlikely to be protected by California law.

  6. Re:Nwaack is already crying like a hysterical bitc by nwaack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This really affects the precious nazi snowflake crybaby-victim that is Nwaack, you can tell by the hysterical (political...) crybaby routine with all the exclamations, lol. Sad. Her life must suck (!!!!!)

    You must be one of those constantly-offended, angry "Progressives" who thinks anyone who disagrees with them should be censored and/or beaten. Are you a member of Antifa, by chance?

  7. "Justice" by argStyopa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    By 2019, the Humans of Earth had almost entirely deformed the meaning of the word 'justice', wielding it like a weapon against anyone that disagreed with them, generally intending some measure of revenge (and often to insist on financial compensation). Often, this wasn't even personal revenge but revenge-by-proxy, insisting that others' suffering needed amelioration.

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