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People Changing Jobs Too Often Could Be Punished by China's Social Credit System (abacusnews.com)

Lots of things can hurt your social credit in China. Failing to repay your debts, plagiarizing academic articles and building a debt-laden tech empire and then fleeing to another country, to name a few random examples. One province now wants to add another "discredited behavior" that seems much more harmless: Switching jobs too often. From a report: Zhejiang is pushing to build a local social credit system that will, among other things, deem residents a "discredited" person if they move from job to job too frequently, according to a local TV report. "If someone keeps quitting and landing new jobs, his social credit will definitely be a problem," Zhejiang official Ge Pingan said at a local forum, addressing a complaint from one company's human resources department about being unable to do anything when employees want to leave. Ge didn't specify how "frequently" is too frequent, but he said the upcoming system will put restrictions on both companies and individual workers.

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  1. Re:Really sick argument by XXongo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "If someone keeps quitting and landing new jobs, his social credit will definitely be a problem," Zhejiang official Ge Pingan said at a local forum, addressing a complaint from one company's human resources department about being unable to do anything when employees want to leave.

    This is a really sick viewpoint, although in this case there isn't much cultural difference between the east and west. Plenty of business owners in the US would love to have ways to keep employees other than providing a good work experience and fair pay.

    Yes, but the U.S. does not have a government-operated "social credit system" that allows business owners to prevent people from traveling, or even from using public transportation, if they switch jobs.

  2. China just kicked up the stupidity level another n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    China just kicked up stupidity to another level. This will appease business owner short term, and locally.

    I'm glad I wasn't born there and stuck there in this day in age. What a shitty dystopian wasteland...

  3. Ahh, the "progressive" ideal! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Punish people for doing things we don't agree with!

    How much more "progressive" can you get?

  4. Not Yet... by nickmalthus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the US is fully committed to capitalism and the methods of the authoritarian Chinese government proves to be the most profitable for corporate/government stakeholders then it is only a matter of time before the US adopts similar policies.

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    If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be-T J
    1. Re:Not Yet... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      it is only a matter of time before the US adopts similar policies.

      America already has a similar system. We are ahead of China on this. The big difference is that in America your credit score is controlled by corporations rather than the government. But similar criteria are used, and excessive job-hopping can hurt your score.

  5. Problem not Codification but Centralized Planning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As you point out, there already was a "social-credit rule" for this: How people viewed your resume.

    Of course, that's a decentralized codification; each individual can make his own decision about how to understand a resume. The problem here is, as always, centralization; the problem is a monopoly.

    All you folks rant and rave about the dangers of a monopoly, but you can't seem to perceive that a government is itself a monopoly—the worst kind of monopoly, in fact: One grown through violent imposition rather than voluntary trade.

    The problem is government; the problem is violent imposition of The One True Way; the problem is authoritarianism.

  6. That already exists. It's called "Religion". by Qbertino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder what happens when you try to trap the unwritten morals of a society in amber at one point in time, never to change again (or to change so slowly it's essentially the case). Will that bottle up repression in the people?

    That already exists. It's called "Religion". And yes, it does pretty much exactly that.

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    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
  7. Re:China is such a great place by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The end-case of this is serfdom. You cannot leave your job without your "noble"'s approval. Sub government for noble in this case.

  8. Re:Really sick argument by jeff4747 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As someone who has stayed in my current job for over a decade

    You're an idiot.

    By staying at the same employer for 10 years, you've lost out on about 2-3 large raises you would have received by changing jobs. Depending on where you are in your career, you've missed out on 2-3 promotions too.

    "Stay at the same employer for decades" died out when management decided layoffs were great for their bonuses, instead of something you do as a last ditch effort to avoid bankruptcy. Yes, it means institutional knowledge is constantly flooding out the door, but that's what management decided they wanted.