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Microsoft Drops 'Safe Removal' of USB Drives As Default In Windows 10 1809 (betanews.com)

Mark Wilson writes: Since the arrival of USB drives, we have been warned that they need to be 'safely removed' using the correct method in Windows, rather than just being yanked out — but now this changes.

With Windows 10 1809, Microsoft is changing the default setting that's applied to USB drives and other removable media. The change means that the default policy applied to removable storage devices is Quick Removal rather than Better Performance — so you can now just pull it out without a second thought.

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  1. Re:Good luck with that by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sometimes customer and software availability does not give you a choice. But you already knew that answer. Being opposed to Windows use for anything is fine, I am too, but your childish stance is harming the cause.

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  2. Re: Good luck with that by ZorinLynx · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Quick removal" means the OS will sync all data to disk BEFORE telling you the copy is complete. So if you wait until the OS says the data has been copied, you will be fine.

    This is how floppy disks used to work. As soon as the copy completed the light would go out and you could eject the disk. It really should have been that way by default from the start with thumbdrives.

  3. Re:Good luck with that by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This essentially just shows that MS does not care about your data at all.

    To the contrary, they are lowering performance to improve data safety.

    A larger write will take time, and data will be corrupted if you just "yank it out".

    Users yank it out anyway. This change will make it safer for them.

    Since nobody uses thumb drives for high performance computing, this change is a sensible improvement.

  4. Re:Good luck with that by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And how would the average user know? This is an unsafe default, plain ans simple. It is asking for people to get hurt. It is exceptionally bad design.

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  5. Re:I don't have Windows 10 by xlsior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Autorun of has been disabled for many years on writable media like flash drives in windows, it only does it on read-only media like CD-ROM

  6. I smell BS by nctritech · · Score: 4, Informative

    EVERY SINGLE WINDOWS since XP defaults to "Quick Removal" for ALL removable drives, including every iteration of Windows 10. I have yet to see a single computer running XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, or any build of 10 where I plug in an SD card, USB flash drive, or USB hard drive that did NOT automatically default to "Quick Removal." I have ALWAYS, as in 100% of cases, had to manually switch the performance setting through Device Manager. Anyone who says that the default policy is different is flying directly in the face of every single computer I've ever plugged a USB or memory card storage medium into over the past 17-18 years, and that's literally thousands of machines.

    The only exception is when a drive is not the system drive but is connected to an internal potentially hot-swappable interface such as an AHCI SATA port. Those get set to "Better Performance" by default because they're almost always not in a removable tray nor connected by eSATA, even though they're technically hot-swappable. Of course, that's not what this Slashdot post is talking about at all, so again...WHAT IS THIS POST EVEN TALKING ABOUT?!

    1. Re:I smell BS by nctritech · · Score: 4, Informative

      Microsoft is wrong. I know because I've been checking this out on every single machine I've touched since I found out it was even an option. The "Safely Remove Hardware" icon always appears even if the policy is "Quick Removal" but every single USB device or memory card ALWAYS gets assigned "Quick Removal" by default, without fail, every single time I've ever tried it on every single computer I've plugged something into, regardless of OS. These are not business computers running the same image, they're mostly home and small business machines from a wildly diverse set of OS install sources.

  7. Re:Good luck with that by vadim_t · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not really practical today.

    AmigaOS could do that with floppies because back then the computer was 100% in charge of the drive and knew exactly what had gone through and what not.

    A modern disk runs an entire OS of its own, and very possibly lies to the OS about its internal state, because lies look better on benchmarks. Just because the drive says "this has been saved", doesn't necessarily it has been.

    That means the OS can't really do what you want reliably. It might work with some drives, and fail miserably with others.

    If every hard disk was truthful about what's on the platter, and every SSD had the capacitors needed to finish work, this would work nicely. But we unfortunately don't have that.

  8. Re: Good luck with that by flargleblarg · · Score: 4, Funny

    I yank mine constantly.

    Don't we all. It just feels so good.

  9. Solved a long time ago by DrYak · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, I agree that these problems already had solution a lon....

    Disk access failure.
    Abort, Retry, Fail? _

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