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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 665, 730, and 730G Target AI and Gaming (venturebeat.com)

Posted by msmash on from the expanding-the-lineup dept.

Today at its annual AI Day conference in San Francisco, chipmaker Qualcomm revamped the midrange products in its system-on-chip portfolio with faster graphics, more power-efficient cores, and other silicon accouterments. From a report: The Snapdragon 670 gained a counterpart in the Snapdragon 665, and the Snapdragon 700 series has two new SKUs in the long-rumored Snapdragon 730 and a gaming-optimized variant dubbed Snapdragon 730G. "In the last several years, we've had a few different technologies that we've [explored]," said vice president of product management Kedar Kondap during a press briefing. "One is obviously [the] camera. Secondly, AI, and ... gaming ... [We've] focused on ... power, [making] sure we drive very high performance." The 11-nm Snapdragon 665 packs Kryo 260 cores and offers up to 20 percent power savings with the Adreno 610 GPU. The 8-nm Snapdragon 730 has Kryo 470 cores inside.

13 comments

  1. AI this, AI that by SirAstral · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Okay guys... stop using those words, they don't mean what you think they mean!

    At best we have advance algorithms... but nothing is actually learning... yet.

    Like Quantum computing... we have been promised AI for decades and it still is not here. Even getting anything close enough to potentially pass the Turing test requires massive hardware and resources. You want something intelligent go and have sex and wait several years... and you MIGHT get something smart. But you are most likely only going to get something that is not smart but thinks it is anyways!

    I have never met a smart human, seen many dumb-asses and morons though... including in the mirror.

    1. Re:AI this, AI that by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

      I just had to laugh right now, because I saw your comment and it's exactly, precisely what I was going to post. xD
      ..and yeah, sick to death of every gods-be-damned thing being so-called 'AI' -- especially when what they keep trotting out isn't very good to start with. Fundamentally it's not really any better than what they had in the 90's, just on larger and faster hardware, and more aggressively marketed.

    2. Re:AI this, AI that by Humbubba · · Score: 2
      Words change meaning. If, in the 18th century, I told you The Turk was an incredible and fantastic chess playing automaton, what I really would be saying was the machine is a fake, a hoax, a fantasy not credible enough to be believed one bit ("bit" as in "iota", or "extremely small amount", not "Binary Digit").

      "Intelligence", "learning", "smart" and "memory", have been redefined for electronic devices that store and process data via instructions from software or hardware. The term "Artificial Intelligence" was coined in 1956. It has a distinct definition separate and only metaphorically related to animal "intelligence" (see below). In 2014, Eugene Goostman said his Chatbot passed the 'Turning Test', i.e., it fooled the judges into believing it was human. The validity of this claim has been met with skepticism. Apparently, Artificial Intelligence can only imitate human intelligence, poorly. If only he had used LISP...

      --

      Learning: noun, The acquisition of knowledge or skills through experience, study or being taught.

      Machine learning: A subset of AI, Machine learning is the scientific study of algorithms and statistical models that computer systems use to effectively perform a specific task without using explicit instructions, relying on patterns and inference instead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_learning

      Intelligence: noun, The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.

      Artificial intelligence (or AI): Both the intelligence of machines and the branch of computer science which aims to create it, through "the study and design of intelligent agents" or "rational agents", where an intelligent agent is a system that perceives its environment and takes actions which maximize its chances of success. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence#Artificial_intelligence

      Smart: adjective, Having or showing a quick-witted intelligence. (Obviously, not applicable to moi.)

      Smart Device: an electronic device, usually connected to other devices, networks, or both, via Bluetooth, WiFi, etc., that can operate to some extent interactively and autonomously. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_device

    3. Re:AI this, AI that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was right with you until the last sentence.
      If nobody you have ever met meets 'smart' it makes your criteria for 'smart' uninteresting.

    4. Re:AI this, AI that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AI does not mean that it has to learn.

    5. Re:AI this, AI that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Artificial Intelligence is the only scientific field in existence where people don't trust the reported results to be real unless they are just like the movies.

    6. Re:AI this, AI that by ljw1004 · · Score: 1

      Okay guys... stop using those words, they don't mean what you think they mean! At best we have advance algorithms...

      ML systems are emphatically not "advanced algorithms". An algorithm is a step-by-step sequence of instructions. You don't code ML systems the same way you code algorithms. You don't think about them in the same way. You don't test them the same way. You don't validate them the same way. You don't adjust their parameters the same way. They don't have a step by step sequence of "rules" except in the trivial sense that every single cause-and-effect in the universe is a rule. Heck you don't even check them into source control the same way. ML has nothing to do with algorithms. (well, nothing more than the fact that it's all Turing-complete).

    7. Re:AI this, AI that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      could you try to sound less like a professor? literally no one likes professors and they will soon be slaughtered en masse.

    8. Re:AI this, AI that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heck you don't even check them into source control the same way. ML has nothing to do with algorithms.

      That's interesting. With nvidia graphics drivers, there are ML rules for an upscaling feature, DLSS (whose utility is contested but may be marginally useful. e.g. the game is rendering 1440p pictures and the feature "hallucinates" what's missing to turn it into 4K i.e. 2160p)
      So, ML rules are updated or can be updated separately of the graphics driver much like game profiles were before. This is what's on the end user side.

      May this happen in other contexts? e.g. you've got an embedded system with more or less fixed software, but ML "rules" are updated now and then.

      [nvidia users of "RTX" graphics cards complain of blur and waste of time vs just using usual pixel based upscaling, but this provides an example of a widely deployed solution.
      Now, this sort of things could be extremely useful to deal with scanned text or low res pictures of computer generated text. You might download or update rules for faxed texts, for low res .jpg or .png of web and other computer text, for 300 dpi scanned text, for 17th century Coptic text, for a class of 14th century manuscript...]

    9. Re:AI this, AI that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay guys... stop using those words, they don't mean what you think they mean!

      At best we have advance algorithms... but nothing is actually learning... yet.

      Like Quantum computing... we have been promised AI for decades and it still is not here. Even getting anything close enough to potentially pass the Turing test requires massive hardware and resources. You want something intelligent go and have sex and wait several years... and you MIGHT get something smart. But you are most likely only going to get something that is not smart but thinks it is anyways!

      I have never met a smart human, seen many dumb-asses and morons though... including in the mirror.

      But, what if they focused on... Super Millitary-class Power Ultra Quantum AI Mega Blockchain Gaming RGB Camo MMO RGB FPS RPG MOBA.. plus ?

  2. "Target AI" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I expected AI to be a great scientific and technological breakthrough, but the marketing department was too impatient to wait for that and released it already.

  3. Really loving the Arm for this by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    I have a Jetson Nano, NVIDIA's combination of Arm processor and NVIDIA GPU. It's able to do motion detection and object recognition on 8 channels in real time. It's fabulous for home security purposes.

  4. Still waiting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...for a PC or a laptop with the snapdragon 8CX...when we will finally get our hands on a damned desktop class CPU Qualcomm?