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Microsoft Worked With Chinese Military University on AI (irishtimes.com)

Microsoft has been working with a Chinese military-run university on AI research that could be used for surveillance and censorship. From a report: Three papers, published between March and November last year, were co-written by academics at Microsoft Research Asia in Beijing and researchers with affiliations to China's National University of Defense Technology (NUDR), which is controlled by China's top military body, the Central Military Commission. Samm Sacks, a senior fellow at the New America think-tank and a China tech policy expert, said the papers raised "red flags because of the nature of the technology, the author affiliations, combined with what we know about how this technology is being deployed in China right now." "The [Chinese]government is using these technologies to build surveillance systems and to detain minorities [in Xinjiang]," she added.

40 comments

  1. As the saying goes in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "nobody ever got executed for buying Microsoft"

    1. Re: As the saying goes in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What desperate weirdo came up with that crazy saying? What else you got?

  2. Papapapapapa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ooh Mao Mao....

  3. Wow, the Chinese collaborated with the Chinese by RhettLivingston · · Score: 2

    co-written by academics at Microsoft Research Asia in Beijing and researchers with affiliations to China’s National University of Defense Technology

    When it comes to AI and a growing number of other areas, the Chinese are no slouches. This is why MS has research groups in China. They are taking advantage of Chinese talent. It is likely that MS gained more knowledge about AI from China in this case than they did from us, though I don't know what firewalls China may have required between MS's research groups in China and those in the US. There may very well be export controls on what that group can transmit to the home company.

    1. Re: Wow, the Chinese collaborated with the Chinese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I imagine Microsoft got whatever it was after. Did it?

    2. Re:Wow, the Chinese collaborated with the Chinese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft AI research is more of a joke. And I say that in a literal way, people keep laughing. From Bob, to Clippy, to Tay.

      OK, only one of those was actually research, but the most ridiculous one! And it's ridiculous we are still calling chatbots AI, now over half a century after they were created. They are nothing more than toys.

    3. Re:Wow, the Chinese collaborated with the Chinese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Based on Microsoft's track record China's AI will turn out to be a retard.

    4. Re:Wow, the Chinese collaborated with the Chinese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, you must be right. Microsoft execs must not have any idea that this was going on. Microsoft involved in an oppressive foreign government's program of facial recognition which is already well known to be deployed against its own citizens. And, helping said government's military in programs that might compromise the national security of its rival, the United States, couldn't possibly be important enough to filter up to the executive level.

      Bullshit. Microsoft just got caught doing what Google was caught considering doing. Google caught a shit storm. Now, apparently, Microsoft has loosed their shill army* in damage control.

      *Microsoft's shill army has recently grown with changes to the MVP program that require shilling in social media to get brownie points to maintain MVP status. These new MS shills are even unpaid for shilling. We, know what the M in MVP stands for-- "morons".

  4. beaware the chinaman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    unless he gets you to the other side with john edwards and trump.

  5. So . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They helped China with software? Given that it doesn't exist and is an impossibility of math and physics, China doesn't have 'AI' any more than anyone else does, no matter how loose their ethics. As far as shady business goes, though, yup. The modern Valley and its partners are slime.

  6. anybody surprised? by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    This is MS. Add in Google, FB, and not surprised that when Chinese gov says Bend Over, they do it.
    these assholes are simply handing over everything like GM, Ford, and Chrysler did.

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    1. Re:anybody surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well they learnt bending over with the American Government.

    2. Re: anybody surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Suitcases full of cash, my brother, suitcases full of cash. They can be very persuasive.

  7. Re:Where is all the "Trump is going to prison" cra by WindBourne · · Score: 0

    and yet, you have not seen Mueller's report.
    As it is, Muellers team is already hinting that Barr's report was not accurate nor did it justice.
    So, once the intelligence/Justice committees get the unredacted report, then we can talk about it.

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  8. TRANSLATION (IMHO)!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Why American companies do not fight against Chinese government for/instead us??? Why American companies don't want to be SJW & fight against all governments in the world??? Why American companies respect & follow local laws in other countries???"

  9. Once your secret friends give you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The secret info, you can tell us the 'truth' can you.
    You are always wrong. So trump must be innocent just because of that.

  10. Get The People Involved & Put Them In Guantana by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they do not deserve to be allowed freedom, seeing as they are actively working to supress it.

  11. What are they handing over? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    China leads in this field. Those companies are playing catch up.

  12. its all good by suezz · · Score: 0

    its all good - microsoft runs a business so as long as there is a business plan it is all good. no harm no foul

  13. U need to...They are already in China... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Usual non story anyway. 'Chinese academics work with other Chinese academics ' just doesn't produce as many clicks.
    Just wait for WondBourne to tell us how bad they all are and we can move to the next story.

    1. Re:U need to...They are already in China... by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Shilling rule #3 (no, I haven't figured out #2 and 3 yet): don't be so fucking obvious about it. Even if you are Chinese.

  14. Has been by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    I think you meant to say "has been", not "could be".

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  15. How is this different than IBM working with Nazis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I see little difference between modern China and 1930s Germany.

  16. "and to detain minorities" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We do that too. Are they being detained BECAUSE they're minorities, or do they just happen to be minority lawbreakers? I'd like to know whether this is an actual report of sinister activity, or just nationalist sensationalism.

  17. That explains it by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    No wonder Chinese tanks are better at identifying cats.

    1. Re:That explains it by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Even Chinese tank crews gotta eat...

  18. Re: Where is all the "Trump is going to prison" cr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, Barr lied about the report, which actually shows collusion and indictments are just about to happen, but in a brilliant scheme days before the full release, he fabricated a summary that says the exact opposite. Nobody will be the wiser!

    You are a sniveling, mindless, myopic, blithering fucking imbecile.

  19. Why the lies WindBourne? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  20. LOL WindBourne didn't understand the summary again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Three papers, published between March and November last year, were co-written by academics at Microsoft Research Asia in Beijing and researchers with affiliations to China's National University of Defense Technology

    So Chinese academics collaborate with other Chinese academics. And somehow you think this is newsworthy?
    Your over the top anit-China trolling is reaching new highs. Or you just spamming comments to hide how completely clueless you are about global warming?

  21. Delay and hide, just like all your lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Delay and hide till it blows over. Just like you constantly do with all your lies.

  22. Re:Where is all the "Trump is going to prison" cra by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    hinting

    Yep, that's certainly the key word.

  23. If it's ok for the Usa, it's okay for china by edris90 · · Score: 1

    It doesn't really matter which national entity you are helping,. hey bro utilize the same philosophies of control, social manipulation, and systemic oppression to maintain their power bases. Two peas in a pod trash-talking the other and attempt to distract from their own bulshit.

    1. Re:If it's ok for the Usa, it's okay for china by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And soon you could get to fight for your fatherland i mean country and get to play with all those nice toys.

      How they call this again? rich man's trick?

  24. Hold up Satya Nadella for treason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hold up Satya Nadella for treason For helping out a hostile enemy.

    1. Re: Hold up Satya Nadella for treason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait a minute, is Satya Nadella a US citizen? Then yes, he's has been treasonous in aiding a hostile country.