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iOS 13 To Feature Dark Mode and Interface Updates, Report Says (9to5mac.com)

9to5Mac has learned of several new features expected to be included in iOS 13. From the report: Dark Mode: There will be a system-wide Dark Mode that can be enabled in Settings, including a high contrast version, similar to what's already available on macOS. Speaking of macOS, iPad apps that run on the Mac using Marzipan will finally take advantage of the Dark Mode support on both systems.
Multitasking: There are many changes coming to iPad with iOS 13, including the ability for apps to have multiple windows. Each window will also be able to contain sheets that are initially attached to a portion of the screen, but can be detached with a drag gesture, becoming a card that can be moved around freely, similar to what an open-source project called "PanelKit" could do. These cards can also be stacked on top of each other, and use a depth effect to indicate which cards are on top and which are on the bottom. Cards can be flung away to dismiss them.
Undo gesture: With iOS 13, Apple is introducing a new standard undo gesture for text input on the iPad. The gesture starts as a three-finger tap on the keyboard area, sliding left and right allows the user to undo and redo actions interactively.
Safari improvements: Safari on iOS 13 for the iPad will automatically ask for a desktop version of websites when necessary, preventing a common issue where websites will render their iPhone version even when running on an iPad with a big screen. YouTube is notorious for this behavior, forcing users to rely on a 'Request Desktop Site' button.
Font management: Font management is getting a major upgrade on iOS 13. It will not be necessary to install a profile to get new fonts into the system anymore. Instead there will be a new font management panel in Settings. A new standard font picker component will be available for developers and the system will notify the user when they open a document that has missing fonts.
Smarter Mail: The upgraded Mail app will be able to organize messages into categories such as marketing, purchases, travel, "not important" and more, with the categories being searchable. Users will also be able to add messages to a "read later" queue similar to third-party email apps. Improved multiple item selection: The focus on productivity on iOS continues with the inclusion of new gestures to allow for the selection of multiple items in table views and collection views, which make up for most of the user interfaces found in apps that list large amounts of data. Users will be able to drag with multiple fingers on a list or collection of items to draw a selection, similar to clicking and dragging in Finder on the Mac.
New Volume HUD and other changes: Other features to come with iOS 13 include a redesigned Reminders app, which is also coming to the Mac, a new volume HUD, better "Hey Siri" rejection for common mistaken noises such as laughter and crying babies, better multilingual support for keyboards and dictation, and expanded in-app printing controls.
Apple is expected to officially unveil the next major iPhone and iPad OS at its annual Worldwide Developers Conference on June 3rd.

97 comments

  1. Such features. Much innovation. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's telling, when the key changes are purely cosmetic and little tweaks that usually came standard in every UI before.
    (Windows 3.x had color schemes. I bet the Xerox Alto did too.)

    1. Re: Such features. Much innovation. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dreaming of iOS 13. Woke up with a stupid grin.

    2. Re: Such features. Much innovation. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This article is hardly news

    3. Re:Such features. Much innovation. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not all systems had color, especially those pioneering high res bitmapped graphics.

    4. Re:Such features. Much innovation. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're just mad all the white women are fucking them instead of you.

    5. Re:Such features. Much innovation. Wow. by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Personally I wish we could just go back to that. XFCE still allows it. Everything thing else is now slapped with some chrome. You could DO dark mode in Windows 3.11 if you set your own custom colors.

      I don't understand why almost every desktop decided it was a great idea to take this stuff away; only to bring it back as 'feature' that still isn't as flexible a decade later.

      I still argue to this day in terms of UI elements, basic behavior, etc. Windows 3.11 + Norton Desktop 3.0 was probably the best user experience for desktop computing.

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    6. Re:Such features. Much innovation. Wow. by iampiti · · Score: 2

      Because we live in an era where UX designers strive to have total control over how the UI looks.
      No, you can't have multicolor icons because that actually makes distinguishing them easy and it ruins the look of our design. Better have monochrome icons.
      Borders make buttons look bad so you'll have borderless buttons and you'll have to randomly click texts to find out whether they're buttons or just text labels.
      Don't make us make two different UIs and so you'll have to use a mess designed for touchscreens with you mouse and keyboard. You can only fit 3 buttons in a 30 inch screen because we made them huge and put way too much blank space around them? Too bad.
      Seriously, UIs IMO have regressed 20 years.

  2. Mouse? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With all these great features, imagine if iPads were also useful!

  3. What did the big tomato say to the little tomato by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You're playing ketchup!

  4. Windows 3.1, 1980s Mac OS by raymorris · · Score: 4, Funny

    The list also made me think of Windows 3.1, and 1980s Mac.

    Separate windows, putting mail in folders. Does it come with a Prodigy or AOL disc?

    1. Re:Windows 3.1, 1980s Mac OS by McCaskill · · Score: 1

      No. But there is a brand new 3.5'' diskette reader you can buy :)

    2. Re:Windows 3.1, 1980s Mac OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Compuserve, you insensitive clod.

  5. HuffPost and Prodigy by tepples · · Score: 1

    Does it come with a Prodigy or AOL disc?

    There's a HuffPost (formerly AOL News) app, and Prodigy is on iTunes. Is that close enough?

    1. Re: HuffPost and Prodigy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Occasionally.

  6. "Smarter mail" can kiss my shiny metal a... by ugen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not the "smarter" mail please :( I am on the current iOS and the damn mail is so smart, I can't simply see individual messages - it insists on folding all previous replies into a single concoction (so that if you want to delete one - it kills them all).
    And photos - they are so "smart" there is no longer a simple chronological set. Instead it's trying to come up with its very own groupings that, while making no sense to me, cannot be easily turned off.

    When will "smarter" crap stop? Please give me simple applications that do nothing unless *I SPECIFICALLY ASK THEM TO*!!!!

    1. Re: "Smarter mail" can kiss my shiny metal a... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks so much for this

    2. Re:"Smarter mail" can kiss my shiny metal a... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      Your life, you’re living it wrong. Instead organise your life around the smartness of these apps, not the other way around.
      (Jokes aside, there is an application that demands you do exactly that, and it’s not an Apple product. It’s called SAP)

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    3. Re:"Smarter mail" can kiss my shiny metal a... by swilver · · Score: 0

      I thought that described Apple very accurately, our way is the best so we make it the only way.

    4. Re: "Smarter mail" can kiss my shiny metal a... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IOS dark mode is retarded. It just inverts all the colors, making images in Safari look like negatives. Dark mode on my Samsung Galaxy looks perfect, though you have to use Samsung's Internet browser. Browsers like Firefox Focus ignore the setting.

      Oh, and 9/11 was a controlled demolition. That's a scientific fact not a theory. AE911Truth Org

    5. Re: "Smarter mail" can kiss my shiny metal a... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If not for the smarts, geniuses, and bravery - why are you paying the Apple tax? This has been a consistent design philosophy for them. I'm actually surprised it took them this long to fuck up the mail client - Gmail beat them to that punch years ago.

    6. Re:"Smarter mail" can kiss my shiny metal a... by radarskiy · · Score: 3

      " I can't simply see individual messages - it insists on folding all previous replies into a single concoction"

      If you don't want threading, don't turn on threading. Settings -> Mail -> Organize by Thread -> Off

      " no longer a simple chronological set."

      Since I can't find anything that prevents iOS from showing my pictures in chronological order in the Photos tab, I can't offer any suggestion on how to re-enable it. It's already doing what you want.

      "Please give me simple applications that do nothing unless *I SPECIFICALLY ASK THEM TO*!!!!"

      Stop turning on the settings that do the things you don't want.

    7. Re:"Smarter mail" can kiss my shiny metal a... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the threading got turned on automatically during iOS upgrades, at least that's what I believe happened to me, and presumably to the original poster, so we didn't "turn it on" (except by virtue of upgrading iOS). I want that threading, so I'm happy with it. To delete some but not all of the messages (1, or up to (n-1), of them), you need to expand the thread, then delete each one individually.

      Chronological order appears forced in the All Photos album. However, in albums you create, you can tap-press-drag-release a picture to be out of the original order in which you put the photos into the album. I did/do that accidentally (that's how I learned about it), and am sometimes annoyed by the result since I don't remember where an accidentally so-moved picture originally was, but I have found that to be a useful feature as well. If I want a particular photo (which is not already the first therein) to appear as the identifying photo of an album, I use that capability to good effect.

    8. Re:"Smarter mail" can kiss my shiny metal a... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Please give me simple applications that do nothing unless *I SPECIFICALLY ASK THEM TO*!!!!

      Thinking for yourself? What is this, 90s computing?

    9. Re:"Smarter mail" can kiss my shiny metal a... by ugen · · Score: 1

      I am pretty certain that I did not *enable* threading. In that you are being disingenuous. Apple chose the *default* to turn on threads, without asking me.

      That said, thank you - turned off threads. Looks much better. Still can't find a way to turn off the arbitrary grouping (and mandatory face recognition) in the photos. Clearly Apple gives me, the user, the option to shut it off, does it not?

  7. Finally catched up with the Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was it 10 years until they made such a basic feat?

  8. Windows Phone had this since it went to 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which was in 2010.

  9. Hodor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hodor hodor. Hodor hodor hodor.

  10. ios 13 also to feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thousands of new bugs. apple sucks at software.

    1. Re:ios 13 also to feature by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      They need to have bugs, so they can crow about 'updates' coming regularly for years and years.

  11. Shut up, APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't you have anything better to do in your $1 house than constantly post this spam? Are you really that desperate for attention that you feel the need to constantly stalk and harass SuperKendall, raymorris, and ShanghaiBill? The answer appears to be yes, though your efforts would be better spent completing a MacOS version of your toy string sorting program. Let's be honest, any real security professional knows that using hosts for security is a complete joke and is horribly ineffective. Blacklisting is ineffective, and an approach that includes wildcards and whitelisting would be far more effective. Yet working on your toy string sorting program would still be far better than harassing people like you keep doing.

    Your spam and harassment is unwelcome, Alexander. You've harassed many other users, too, including Subie, Ol Olsoc, webmistressrachel, c6gunner, Zontar The Mindless, amicusNYCL, Coren22, and so many others. Isn't it time you stop being such a bitter crybaby and do something useful with your life? Although your string sorting program (APK Hosts File Engine) is complete shit, working on it would still be better than crapflooding Slashdot.

    Grow up, APK. You're 54 years old. Act your damn age.

    1. Re:Shut up, APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But ABK does do something useful with his life. Without all of his efforts 200,000+ truckers a year would go unserviced at the glory hole in the Pilot Travel Center off of I-81 in Syracuse, NY.

  12. Fantastic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Multitasking.
    More than one theme option.
    etc.

    Glad to see iOS gaining a 2007 smartphone feature set.

    1. Re:Fantastic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Multitasking. More than one theme option. etc.

      Glad to see iOS gaining a 2007 smartphone feature set.

      Actually, I'd be happy with just a phone app that doesn't take eight seconds to open. On an Xs.

  13. TLS 1.3 by goosesensor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Would be great if they could also add support for TLS 1.3 IMAP mail accounts.....

    1. Re:TLS 1.3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just upgrade to Android (which has it in Q)

    2. Re:TLS 1.3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because android sucks ass through a discount refurbished straw, duh.

    3. Re:TLS 1.3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So how come there are more android users than ios? (like 80% android, 18% ios 2% other)

      Oh, because it's awful, that's right.

      You're probably one of the people that paid $20 for an android phone, then got all bent out of shape that it didn't compare to a $900 iPhone. Try spending that much on an android next time.

    4. Re:TLS 1.3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We are not in 2010 anymore, a 200USD-300USD Xiaomi phone does 90% of what a 900USD phone does, and is more than enough for GPS, facebook, mail and photos.

    5. Re:TLS 1.3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      discount refurbished straw, duh.

      Crack is popular among sketchy android dollar whores also, what's your point? You don't have a walled garden, you don't have a garden. You have a cesspool.

      Spending any amount of money on android is a waste, it's a garbage island of a rafts-tied-together platform. You don't even KNOW where your data is going, lol.

    6. Re:TLS 1.3 by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Thank you for the crapflooder's perspective on Android.

    7. Re:TLS 1.3 by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I browse at -1 for the same reason I read the Daily Mail. It's important to be reminded that the world is full of stupid fuckwits.

  14. Re:What did the big tomato say to the little tomat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's cute! Thanks for posting!

  15. Re:Gypsies, Muslims, and Wetbacks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    all these groups would be nothing without the jews playing pied piper. wake up and face the true opponent brother.

  16. Smart is dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If a computer program sorts new mail into different categories, that just means I have to look in many places to find new mail. I can't ignore some categories (*cough* marketing *cough*) because the "smart" app will have a non-negligible error rate where it sorts something I need to see into a category I want to ignore. It's "also look in your spam folder" multiplied. I want my computers to embrace their dumbness. Dumb obedience is beautiful. Do as I say, for I own you.

    1. Re: Smart is dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh great. Another micro managing order giving spam poster. Meet the floor

    2. Re: Smart is dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck you. The only thing I hate more than spammers is people who think they can justify anything and everything in the name of fighting spam. I have lost important mail because someone decided that a spam filter which deals with customer emails can have a non-negligible false positive rate.

    3. Re:Smart is dumb by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      The subdividing of mail is a useful feature. lets say 100 emails come in and 80% are sorted correctly you have 20 that are wrongly sorted and you can correct that pretty quickly and the filters may even learn and do better next time. With 100 unsorted mails it's all random and you sort everything. Thats a bigger task. Think of it as a venn diagram with yes no and maybe as the intersection items in the yes or no group are pretty much correct so you just need to filter the maybes, the majority are already in the right grouping.

                   

    4. Re: Smart is dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Legitimate companies send repeat emails

    5. Re: Smart is dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess personal email is never important.

    6. Re:Smart is dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems kind of obvious, but do you realize that it doesn't put a flag saying "these are wrongly sorted, please check manually"? There are 100 emails that may or may not be sorted correctly, and I still have to check all of them, except now they're not in one place.

  17. Re: The important question for Apple is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HR trend in sanctuary cities - 100% half-assed n1gger breeds.

  18. How much did you fail in life...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... that you think people who can't even read or write, let alone use advanced technology, could never get a decent job or girl, and actually want to be like you, feel like they are a threat to you.

    What's your job? Hitting wooden sticks with wooden sticks while going "Uggh!"?
    And ugly is your girl? A minus one?
    Or are you afraid they'll start thinking as hateful you do?
    Because how else could they possibly be a threat to you?

    Ya massivr loser.

  19. Nah, Android removed it, in-between. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Vanilla Android doesn't have a system-wide dark mode switch anymore since retarded, err, I mean material design. If yours does, the phone vendor added it.
    I see many apps offering it by themselves anyway.
    I just wish Firefox would support it.

    1. Re:Nah, Android removed it, in-between. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, it's called Night Mode now.

  20. gesture overload by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the ios interface has reached gesture overload, which is obvious with the new buttonless ipad pro with no bezel - to control the device requires looking up, memorizing, and using a bewildering number of fine motor control gestures which are not intuitive - apple is making ipads almost impossible to use

    1. Re:gesture overload by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the ios interface has reached gesture overload, which is obvious with the new buttonless ipad pro with no bezel - to control the device requires looking up, memorizing, and using a bewildering number of fine motor control gestures which are not intuitive - apple is making ipads almost impossible to use

      Right. Like the three finger "Undo" gesture. So I'm holding the phone in my hand...typing with my thumb...I make a typo (which NEVER happens /s) and now I have to use three fingers to undo?!? No thanks.

    2. Re:gesture overload by green1 · · Score: 2

      Nothing new here. Apple has always had horribly unintuitive interfaces. It's been one of their biggest weaknesses for ages.

      Apple has one strength, and only one. They are positively amazing at marketing. They constantly take products that are years behind their competitors in feature set, more difficult to learn to use, and cost twice as much, and get people to line up around the block to buy.

      Any other company would kill for that kind of marketing ability.

    3. Re:gesture overload by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      I never understood why the swipe motion to switch apps goes into the wrong direction. Even after 10 years of iPad using I always swipe in the wrong direction first.

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  21. Apple != Innovation anymore by ironicsky · · Score: 3

    I miss the days when Apple was an innovator.

    First widely successful music player? Apple
    First widely successful smart phone? Apple
    First small footprint TV streaming device for laptops and smart phones? Apple

    Hell, go back to the 80's, first widely successful computer platform? Apple.

    Without Steve Jobs, apple lost its innovation. Even near the end for Steve, his focus obviously shifted and his level of Innovation went down.

    Now, Apple is playing catch up to Android, their Macs aren't innovative, maybe except for the touch bar, and the laser mapping face unlock.

    My first two smart phones were iPhone 4 and 4s. My fiance has an iPhone X, and I see absolutely no reason to ever go back. The experience on my Pixel 3 is much, much better.

    1. Re:Apple != Innovation anymore by DarkOx · · Score: 3

      See i would make the argument Apple is not an innovator or at least has not been since the Apple II. What they have been exceptionally good at is
      1) Polishing and integration
      2) Timing the market, they are never the first market with any tech; but they have been historically great at get a product out the door just as an idea is taking off.
      2a) They do this just in time to learn from others mistakes
      2b) They do this early enough that their product is still often many peoples first encounter with a given tech.
      2c) They have accelerated to identifying the critical features and branding them.
      3) They have been good identifying their missteps and correcting course; ie native apps on iPhone.

      However (3) is only in the second Jobsian era - certainly they stuck with Power way to long, They failed at paying the technical debt in MacOS way to long. While Microsoft brought out modern platfoms with real memory protection etc and Linux brought the best of Unix to the desktop; Apple was busy making jigsaw puzzle icons or somethings. Those things nearly destroyed what is now one of the world largest companies at least in terms of capitalization. That is pretty amazing when you think about it. They literally in went from bankruptcy death watch at the end of the 90s to commanding wealth that is the envy of many nations. Quite remarkable. We shall if Tim Cook can screw it up they way Scully did.

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    2. Re:Apple != Innovation anymore by TechnoGrl · · Score: 2

      >Hell, go back to the 80's, first widely successful computer platform? Apple.

      That would actually be the TRS-80 Model 1 that proceeded the Apple II. Some would even argue that it was the Commodore PET but the Model 1 raudly outsold the PET because of the Radio Shack Retail network. By the very early 80's Commodore 64's were selling at K-Mart (which is where I bought mine) for $300 while Apple IIs were in the $900 and up price range and only available at select computer stores thus making the Commodore 64 more easily accessible and more widely used than Apple for several years.

      Apple gained market share by the mid 80's but by that time the IBM clones (we would call them Windows clones today) got on the market (I used to sell Dawoo clone machines) and rapidly outsold Apple reducing the overall Apple II market share considerably (back then only IBM could produce an IBM BIOS machine - clones were all pirated machines... until they weren't) .

      So much for some history from someone who lived through "The Rise Of The Machines" lol

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    3. Re:Apple != Innovation anymore by green1 · · Score: 2

      They never were a tech innovator, only a marketing one.

      I note your examples are "first widely successful" and never "first to do X" or "best", because they never have been. You've always been able to buy a competing product that does more, and costs less.

      They've been successful because they're great at convincing people to buy inferior products for more money, not because they make the best product.

      This release is exactly on brand for them. Add a bunch of features the competition has had for years, talk up the innovation, nothing more.

    4. Re:Apple != Innovation anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First widely successful music player? Apple

      I believe one Thomas A Edison might like to have a word with you regarding successful music players...

    5. Re:Apple != Innovation anymore by Freischutz · · Score: 1

      They never were a tech innovator, only a marketing one. I note your examples are "first widely successful" and never "first to do X" or "best", because they never have been. You've always been able to buy a competing product that does more, and costs less. They've been successful because they're great at convincing people to buy inferior products for more money, not because they make the best product. This release is exactly on brand for them. Add a bunch of features the competition has had for years, talk up the innovation, nothing more.

      Bollocks!! You sound like one of those angry disgruntled artists who got together with his angry disgruntled artist friends at a conference in a run down resort at a no longer frequented beach in California where you concocted a declaration stating that the only true art is art that does not sell. I was around when the iPod first came out, I remember the competition. The music players that I could buy over the counter within a 500 km radius of where I lived were nothing to phone home about. You could fit 2-5 CDs on them. The iPad could hold your entire music collection and the UI was by leaps and bound better and simpler than anything else widely available. In short, the iPod, won because it beat the pants off of everything else available at the time, hands down. There may have been devices that had similar capacity as the iPod but the UI sucked ass and they were not available in stores in my region so they might as well have been on the moon. Plus, I only found out about some of these things years later form Slashdot posts calming Apple ripped them off. The same applies to the iPhone. It beat the pants off the competition, including the Blackberry, Nokia and Ericsson, Motorola, HP, the lot of them. I also saw one of the Android prototypes, it was a Blackberry killer and it sucked compared to the iPhone. Then the iPhone hit the market and we heart nothing from Android for quite a long time while they played catch-up until they finally debuted a system whose UI was an iPhone knock off. It may have bee a knock of but at least it didn't suck any more which is the main reason why Android even remained a player. Claiming that Apple never innovated because somebody put some feature in some device 4 years earlier is crap. Combining components into devices that make peoples lives easier is every bit as much innovation as inventing those components.

    6. Re:Apple != Innovation anymore by Freischutz · · Score: 1

      First widely successful music player? Apple

      I believe one Thomas A Edison might like to have a word with you regarding successful music players...

      Yeah, and there is a copper age carpenter who invented the wheel who'd like to have a few words with Elon Musk about how Tesla is ripping off his invention instead of innovating ... We can take this game all the way back to the first digging stick and the first hand-axe.

    7. Re:Apple != Innovation anymore by green1 · · Score: 2

      The iPod UI was horrible, it relied on already knowing how to use it. It included several completely unlabelled controls, and no indication of how to use them.

      As for capacity. The Nomad had a larger capacity than the first iPod, even though it came out a year earlier. It also labelled all it's controls, so was much easier to learn to use with a better UI.

      But Apple had better marketing, and you bought the marketing hook, line, and sinker. Your post even admits that you didn't buy the iPod because it was better, only because you didn't know about the better alternatives. Proof again that they were better at marketing, not at innovating.

      Apple is a real case study in why it doesn't matter if your product is better, only if you can market it well.

    8. Re:Apple != Innovation anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the stick and ax made form atoms some star slaved to the point of self exploding to fuse?

    9. Re:Apple != Innovation anymore by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      They've been successful because they're great at convincing people to buy inferior products for more money, not because they make the best product.

      Sorry, in your Apple hate you are simply an idiot.
      Why don't you read a bit about Apples history?

      E.g. printing, colour management, having MacOS and a Unix like environment (MPW) and A/Ux (the Apple unix) in parallel on the same machine. Multiple monitors, with different colour depths, and resolutions and DPI. MacApp the first "PC" object oriented framework, C++ as standard development language, besides Pascal.

      Especially in the software area Apple did many many things. Many failed though, like Bedrock and OpenDoc.

      Regarding your cheaper and more features rant: no there is no cheaper laptop with more features than a MacBook Pro ... or do you really think I bought the MacBook Pro to run Linux on it natively? I buy Macs to use the superb Mac software, e.g. the Mail.app ...

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    10. Re:Apple != Innovation anymore by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 0

      The iPod UI was horrible, it relied on already knowing how to use it. It included several completely unlabelled controls, and no indication of how to use them.
      Yes, you said in another post apple products where never intuitive. However you must be somehow handicapt in that area. Most things were super intuitive, e.g. the iPod we talk about. How youcan not grasp how it works by simply looking at it 2 seconds is beyond me.
      However I agree that e.g. Numbers and Pages are a nightmare to use.

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  22. Safari improvements? How about WebGL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WebGL has been 'supported' but completely broken since iOS 8 point something: WebGL output is stuck at base version 1.0 and is not hardware accelerated, making it useless for displaying anything past two objects.
    As a developer of 3D web apps, I now have three choices. I can tell iOS users that they can't view the content on their mobile device, which is "completely unacceptable" to both them and to Apple, but sometimes is the only way. I can tell iOS users that their device "is unsupported but may work; continue at own risk" while knowing fully that their experience will be beyond sub-par and still hoping that Apple fixes WebGL in a future update. OR I can rewrite whatever functionality the webapp provides using Apple's own development tools and package it as an app in iTunes, which more than doubles maintenance costs as it duplicates the effort and adds another entire application to maintain, on top of making me completely subject to Apple's whims regarding the content of the app.

    Now that I listed that last one, I'm pretty sure WebGL is broken on iOS devices on purpose.

    1. Re:Safari improvements? How about WebGL by tepples · · Score: 2

      OR I can rewrite whatever functionality the webapp provides using Apple's own development tools and package it as an app in iTunes, which more than doubles maintenance costs

      Offer the WebGL version without charge and charge for the iOS version. Every year or so, a story comes out that iOS users are still far more likely to pay for nice things, to the tune of 9 times the revenue per user for paid apps and IAPs compared to an Android user.

  23. Give them a break by DrYak · · Score: 1

    They finally finished copying all the multitasking features that Palm's webOS introduced a decade ago.

    --
    "Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
  24. Time to upgrade my iPhone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I imagine that the OS slowdown caused by email automatically categorizing itself and the ability to add fonts in a slightly less obtuse manner will increase the OS overhead to the point where older iPhones are as slow as bricks. All critical features, I'm sure, totally not just being added to be seen to be making improvements or forcing people to buy new hardware.

    1. Re:Time to upgrade my iPhone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I imagine that the OS slowdown caused by email automatically categorizing itself and the ability to add fonts in a slightly less obtuse manner will increase the OS overhead to the point where older iPhones are as slow as bricks. All critical features, I'm sure, totally not just being added to be seen to be making improvements or forcing people to buy new hardware.

      That's ridiculous.

      Once the initial indexing is complete (which will probably be done transparently during the iOS Upgrade process), categorizing incoming mail and photos will not take any appreciable resources.

      Do you even Code?

  25. Where's the confirm button? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sick of software vendors putting a "Do you want to upgrade?" yes/no prompt up with no way to stop it if you accidentally click on yes.

    I'm about to click on one of my phone apps and just before I click the upgrade prompt is shown which gets clicked instead of the app.

  26. ooh dark mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I might be ready to switch to iOS now that it is on par with my 5 year old Android tablet.

    (you Apple bitches forget the first iPhone didn't even support cut & paste. Something PalmOS and Newton had decades ago)

    1. Re:ooh dark mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Android doesn't really have dark mode, it is limited to some areas of the OS and most of Google's own apps still operate with light mode. Hopefully that will change with Q, but all Android apps will still need to be updated to support dark mode.

  27. IOS has potential beyond media consumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Apple would ease up on the iPad's restrictions, iPad's would be usable for more than just tweeting and Youtube.

    Apple, we need access tot he file system and the ability to have system extensions for things like firewall.

  28. Volume HUD by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

    Does this mean we'll be able to set the relative volumes without having to guess as to which application is being considered in the "foreground"? Trying to adjust the turn by turn volume while you have music playing is extremely annoying.

  29. Ohh - Dark Mode is the big feature !!! iOS dead?! by ripvlan · · Score: 1

    What does it mean when the biggest feature the tech world covets is Dark Mode. The leading title is "Dark Mode" and probably "new emojis" oooh. Tech is dead because people expect so little.

    iOS is missing a basic "HUD" There no longer exists way to see the day's schedule, or reminders, or todo lists. Everything is a pop-up task on the home screen that goes away once you unlock the screen. I like to pick up my device and see a continual list of "things coming up that you haven't done yet" Apple still hasn't come up with a way to display important information vs "all notifications"

    iOS still has icons ala Windows 3.1. It is time to merge apps and data and provide a single overview. That's hard I know. But I watch my friends with Android and they can see all kinds of things while texting in the middle of the screen - all from the lock screen. UI Envy is what it is.

    Dark mode - I could give a rats ass.

  30. A welcome change.... by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 2

    "Undo gesture: With iOS 13, Apple is introducing a new standard undo gesture for text input on the iPad. The gesture starts as a three-finger tap on the keyboard area, sliding left and right allows the user to undo and redo actions interactively."

    Whoever came up with "shake to undo" should be condemned to use Android for the rest of their life as it's one of the two most un-Apple-like GUI misdesigns in recent history (the other being MacOS Safari in full-screen mode and the jumping clo

    1. Re:A welcome change.... by dinfinity · · Score: 1

      ..wn that presses submit before you're finished writing your comment?
      )

    2. Re:A welcome change.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      still no swipe mode (aka swype) on iOS...

  31. Will Mail Support Gmail Push Again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is one of the biggest reasons I don't use it. I have multiple Gmail accounts and I want to be able to use the IMAP IDLE not some polling method.

  32. Hey asshole trying to FRAME me... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey asshole trying to FRAME me, tell you what: ANYTIME you want to accuse me of the bs lies you're spouting, meet me face to face & do it - I will fucking END you motherfucker...

    * I SHIT YOU NOT!

    (You PUSSCAKE PUNK hiding behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts weezil)

    APK

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  33. Re:Ohh - Dark Mode is the big feature !!! iOS dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "What does it mean when the biggest feature the tech world covets is Dark Mode. The leading title is "Dark Mode" and probably "new emojis" oooh. Tech is dead because people expect so little."

    It means our fucking eyes hurt from staring at blinding white all day.

  34. file manager, usb masstorage, someone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no?
    Apple does not want its iOS devices to be useful.