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Twitter Has Been Secretly Verifying Thousands of Accounts, Even Though It Insists Its Verification Program is on Hold (mashable.com)

Twitter has verified more than 10,000 accounts in recent months, despite putting its verification program on hold. From a report: The company has said little publicly about verification, which it suspended in 2017 following backlash over its verification of a white supremacist. But data viewed by Mashable suggests the company is verifying a flurry of accounts each month despite the supposed break. Celebrities, and others with backchannel connections to the company, are able to become verified as Twitter ignores everyday users and those without insider access. In many ways, this secretive process is now more opaque and unfair than it was when anyone could apply on Twitter's website. At a time when Twitter says it's trying to be more transparent about its rules, the lack of an official verification policy is hurting groups already susceptible to abuse, critics say. Further reading: 'Verified' Is Now a Derogatory Term on Twitter.

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  1. Hate Speech by bitchtits · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As an avid twitter user, I encounter a lot of hate speech on twitter. When I report people, it seems those that are verified get away with it while those with no blue tick are temporarily or permanently suspended, even for the exact same behaviour. Twitter isn't thoroughly awful, though some thoroughly awful people get verified blue ticks and continue to pollute the internet .

    1. Re:Hate Speech by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Can you give a legal definition of "hate speech"?

      Can you tell me why you need a legal definition if it? It's not like twitter is obliged to host anyone at all.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    2. Re:Hate Speech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Stolen from Wikipedia because it nicely copy pastes all the relevant laws:

      In England and Wales and Scotland the Public Order Act 1986 prohibits, by its Part 3, expressions of racial hatred, which is defined as hatred against a group of persons by reason of the group's colour, race, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins. Section 18 of the Act says:

      A person who uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, is guilty of an offence if—

      (a) he intends thereby to stir up racial hatred, or
      (b) having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby.
      Offences under Part 3 carry a maximum sentence of seven years imprisonment or a fine or both.[8]

      The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 inserted Section 4A into the Public Order Act 1986. That part prohibits anyone from causing alarm or distress. Section 4A states, in part:

      (1) A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he—

      (a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
      (b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,
      thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress. ...

      (5) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or to both.[9]

      The Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 amended the Public Order Act 1986 by adding Part 3A. That Part says, "A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, is guilty of an offence if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred." The Part protects freedom of expression by stating in Section 29J:

      Nothing in this Part shall be read or given effect in a way which prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practising their religion or belief system.

  2. Proof of Twitter's Corruption by TimMD909 · · Score: 3, Informative

    https://youtu.be/DZCBRHOg3PQ Tim Pool destroyed Twitter's credibility. Twitter seems to have doubled down instead of reforming. It was brilliant watching someone with journalistic ethics who did his homework do his thing.

    1. Re:Proof of Twitter's Corruption by sinij · · Score: 3, Informative

      Rogan's ethics are only questionable from your tainted point of view - that is he steadfastly refuses to abide by identity politics or fall into line with deplatforming fatwahs. He talks on his show with people from all sides and hardly ever outright hostile to anyone.

    2. Re:Proof of Twitter's Corruption by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, he doesn't just give everyone a platform without favour. He gives a platform to people who spout the same kinds of conspiracy theory rubbish that he does.

      If that's what he wants to do then that is of course fine, it's up to him, but it doesn't add credibility to his show or anything he says. Quite the opposite in fact.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    3. Re:Proof of Twitter's Corruption by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Tim Pool destroyed Twitter's credibility.

      Who the fuck is Tim Pool? I mean I've heard of twitter but I've never heard of that guy. So his "destruction" of Twitter's credibility is a little on the incomplete side.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    4. Re:Proof of Twitter's Corruption by sinij · · Score: 2

      He isn't giving anyone a platform, he is interviewing them. Do you acknowledge that there is a difference between interviewing and endorsing ideas?

      I think your identierian inclinations warped your thinking to the point that you can no longer tell the difference between discussing ideas and endorsing ideas. This is troubling, as logical conclusion of such framework is that one should never discuss ideas that are disagreeable. Obviously, I disagree, as I strongly believe that the proper way to discredit ideas is to discuss them and rebut them, not to attempt to censor them. One approach leads to enforced heresy rules other leads to truth-seeking.

    5. Re:Proof of Twitter's Corruption by sinij · · Score: 2

      With such definition "giving someone a platform" is 100% non-problematic in my view. Unless you think that treating adults like children is desirable and necessary and simply exposing someone to ideas is somehow harmful. Why have you decided that the likely outcome that Rogan's audience, who are largely are non-conformist and/or libertarians, overwhelmingly and disproportionately get brainwashed and misinformed?

      One troubling aspect of SJW ideology is that it is assumed that adults are incapable of making up their own mind, and simple exposure to undesirable ideas would turn them toward radicalism. This is not a justified assumption and it also used to infantelize and rob of agency SJW adherents.

      You are capable of making up your mind and deciding that some ideas are flawed. For example, if you came to a conclusion that Alex Jones is peddler of conspiracy theories and a kook why do you think other reasonable people would err? Why do you not extend the same to Rogan's audience and instead assume they all going to be wholesale brainwashed and it is all Rogan's fault for allowing this to happen?

    6. Re:Proof of Twitter's Corruption by sinij · · Score: 2

      "Completely even-handed" is impossible standard, so it is pointless to even bring this up.

      You are not just criticizing Rogan's choices of guest selection, you explicitly criticizing him and his audience for endorsing conspiracy theories. Your tenuous logic, that conflates interviewing with endorsing, is that because he had interviewed some conspiracy theorists he must also endorse their conspiratorial views.

      I think "arguing using SJW logic" is a very reasonable model of your behavior when discussing social issues. However, I am open to having my mind changed as soon as you can find some example where you diverge from strictly adhering to SJW canon on pretty much any and all relevant topics.

      What makes it difficult to have a discussion with me is that I don't automatically agree with your points. However, I do note and appreciate you trying (and in my view often failing to) listen and understand my arguments instead of just skipping into hysterically shouting RACIST! or similar.

    7. Re:Proof of Twitter's Corruption by sinij · · Score: 2

      Sigh. I just said that it wasn't endorsement, kind of the opposite in fact. Why do you just ignore what I'm telling you and carry on arguing with the imaginary SJW version?

      No, he doesn't just give everyone a platform without favour. He gives a platform to people who spout the same kinds of conspiracy theory rubbish that he[Rogan] does.

      You need to reconcile these statements before we can move forward with our discussion.

    8. Re:Proof of Twitter's Corruption by sinij · · Score: 2

      I fail to see your logic or you keep contradicting yourself. Can you explain how "peddling basically the same crap" is different from "endorsing them"?

      That is, you keep accusing Rogan of endorsing these views at the same time as stating "Giving someone a platform is not an endorsement".

  3. TRANSLATION (IMHO)!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Twitter should explain how exactly they do verification so we can find ways to exploit/abuse it (& make it useless)!!!"

  4. Re:Feeding the Beast by alvinrod · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think Twitter is just another form of whatever the Jerry Springer Show was (is?) in that it's a dumpster fire that draws people in like moths to its dumpster fire flame. Only Twitter lets you be act like part of the live studio audience and join in dumpster fire from anywhere on the planet.

    You're asking people to step away from that and expecting that they'll be able to do so?

  5. Re:Feeding the Beast by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2

    Twitter gave everyone a voice. Unfortunately that voice is cancer. We would all be better off if twitter just disappeared.

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    Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
  6. Re: Censorship is bad, mmkay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As a New Zealander I looked for what I could best do in response the murders of my fellow citizens. The message from the survivors is "this started with hate speech. Call it out when you see it, stop it spreading, we should all be bettr than this, don't be complicit."

  7. Utility? Publisher? by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    A utility would just pass comments between people.
    A publisher now wants control over who can say what. Control over the politics of every account.
    Social media becomes the owner and publisher of its users comments.
    But still expects the full protections of only been a utility with every user still fully responsible for their comments.
    Only some people may publish and be approved to publish.

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    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  8. Re:Censorship is bad, mmkay? by sound+vision · · Score: 2

    They censor people when it's perceived to harm their business. They made a determination that having swastikas on their platform is worse for business than having Taylor Swift - makes sense to me. When a government censors, that's usually going to be some kind of ideological thought control. Twitter's concern extends only to their brand image.

    Of course, they still end up with egg on their face from the verification fiasco. Half-hearted disavowals of racism and stark displays of nepotism - they seem to be taking a page from our head of state. Funnily enough, he also gets special treatment in bending Twitter's rules. So much for left-wing bias. He's just another A-list celeb they need to have to keep their brand relevant.

    None of this surprises me or even really bothers me. They could ban everyone tomorrow and I wouldn't blink. They'd all move to some new, probably better alternative. There must be a teeming, untapped market for "freedom"-focused social media, right?