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Planet's Ocean-Plastics Problem Detailed In 60-Year Data Set (nature.com)

Scientists have uncovered the first strong evidence that the amount of plastic polluting the oceans has risen vastly in recent decades -- by analyzing 60 years of log books for plankton-tracking vessels. Nature reports: Data recorded by instruments known as continuous plankton recorders (CPRs) -- which ships have collectively towed millions of kilometres across the Atlantic Ocean -- show that the trackers have become entangled in large plastic objects, such as bags and fishing lines, roughly three times more often since 2000 than in preceding decades. This is the first time that researchers have demonstrated the rise in ocean plastics using a single, long-term data set, says Erik van Sebille, an oceanographer at Utrecht University in the Netherlands. "I'm excited that this has been finally done," he says. The analysis was published on 16 April in Nature Communications.

Van Sebille says that because the study focused on large plastic items, it doesn't reveal much about the quantity of microplastics -- fragments fewer than 5 millimetres long -- in the oceans. These tiny contaminants come from sources such as disposable plastic packaging, rather than from fishing gear. Nevertheless, he adds, the study demonstrates that fisheries play a major part in plastic pollution, and will provide useful baseline data for tracking whether policy changes affect the levels of plastic in the oceans. "As fisheries become more professional, especially in the North Sea, hopefully we might see a decrease," he says.

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  1. Oceans by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We need oceans. The whole of life on earth is a chain of dependencies that goes back to them.

    Keep consuming, though, there's still a tiny bit of time left before they're permanently fucked.

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    1. Re:Oceans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      3rd world countries are the biggest plastic polluters of the ocean. This is established fact now. But it is also not politically correct to repeat.

    2. Re:Oceans by Joce640k · · Score: 1, Informative

      Even if true, that doesn't free you from the responsibility to lead by example.

      PS: China has banned plastic bags.Most of Africa has banned plastic bags (four years prison in Kenya!). Has your country.

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    3. Re:Oceans by markdavis · · Score: 2

      >"Even if true, that doesn't free you from the responsibility to lead by example. PS: China has banned plastic bags.Most of Africa has banned plastic bags (four years prison in Kenya!). Has your country."

      Our country (USA) is responsible for almost none of the plastic in the ocean. We do lead by example by generally not littering, by reusing bags, by recycling them, and by disposing of them properly. Banning plastic bags (and straws) here would change very, very little in waste except make it more inconvenient for most people. If you don't want to use them, nobody is forcing you to... bring/use your own reusable bags and straws.

      I imagine styrofoam is more of a problem, anyway.

    4. Re:Oceans by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      Our country (USA) is responsible for almost none of the plastic in the ocean. We do lead by example by generally not littering, by reusing bags, by recycling them, and by disposing of them properly.

      .Agreed. I find the narrative in all of this plastic pollution business to be both fascinating and disturbing.

      Present day narrative has deteriorated to the point where all problems are by definition caused by the USA. And a significant number of people in the USA have bought into that narrative.

      Well, we can all suck our slurpees through bacteria laden bamboo straws, and waste money washing them, but it is only virtue signalling. Despite the present day narrative, the cause of this problem lies not with the USA, but with other countries.

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  2. In before Kendall explains his moron's opine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That oceans don't matter because VR.

  3. Plastic pollution by sjbe · · Score: 5, Informative

    Our country (USA) is responsible for almost none of the plastic in the ocean.

    "Almost none"? Not even remotely true. Not the majority but we certainly contribute plenty. We are in the top 20 as far as plastic polluting countries go so, let's not get too proud of ourselves for not being the worst of the worst.

    We do lead by example by generally not littering, by reusing bags, by recycling them, and by disposing of them properly.

    Are you shitting me? We litter plenty - just spend a little time cleaning up along a highway if you don't believe me. I have. In 2014 the US produced approximately 100 billion plastic bottles and an estimated 14% of those ended up as litter. We litter a huge amount. Just because you don't see it where you live doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

    Literally almost every grocery store in the US uses tens of thousands of disposable plastic one use bags every day and we certainly don't dispose of an awful lot of them properly. (protip - a landfill is not proper disposal of a plastic bag in most cases) Reportedly we use about 1 million of them per minute on average. 91% of plastic we use isn't recycled and plastic bags are certainly a non-trivial piece of that 91%. About 40% of plastic is used for packaging of one sort or another.

    Banning plastic bags (and straws) here would change very, very little in waste except make it more inconvenient for most people.

    We already have paper bags and people can bring their own and we already have paper straws and people can bring their own of those too. Exactly who is being inconvenienced here? Now paper to be fair has its own pollution problems, but let's not pretend we're putting some huge burden on anyone. Nobody is claiming banning plastic straws is some cure-all but it's a low hanging fruit that does solve a measurable part of the problem. Your argument is that we shouldn't solve a small part of the problem just because we haven't solved the bigger parts of the problem yet. That's idiotic.

    I imagine styrofoam is more of a problem, anyway.

    What you imagine is irrelevant and in this case wrong as well. You appear to lack the data to really understand the problem.

    1. Re:Plastic pollution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You need to get better sources. Less than 2% of the US waste stream ends up "unmanaged", i.e. litter. 14% ... please. Even if you really, really want to believe in the great evil that is the US, just look around you. That number is not remotely plausible. It is like the made-up number for plastic straws that played such a big role in the original push for straw bans. All you had to do was pause and think for 5 seconds to realize that every man, woman and child in the US isn't using multiple straws per day. But that doesn't happen when your reasoning is motivated by other beliefs.

      This is one way to tell if you are dealing with "fake news". If Fox News tells you that illegal immigrants are raping and murdering people by the millions, just look around... is the crime rate up, or is it down? Just a quick sanity check.. in science they call it "prior plausibility".

      I love your paragraph on paper bags and paper straws. So much revealed so quickly. First is a notion that "you get to decide" for other people. Whether it makes a difference or not, your attitude is "it is only a small burden" for others. Where do you suppose you get the right to tell other people what they can and cannot buy. Making your argument and recommendations is great. Using the government to force other people to go with your woke hunches is not OK.

      Straws in the US is not a measurable part of the problem That was the entire point. Plastic straws from the US do not make up 1% of 1% of the plastic waste in the great Pacific gyre. It isn't attacking the problem in any way. It is virtue signalling by forcing your opinions off on other people in some power-play that signifies nothing.

      Paper bags are far worse than plastic single use bags - they use far more energy, release far more carbon and eat up far more landfill space. The only thing they are better on is biodegradability if they don't get disposed of properly. ( You did hit on the true better answer though - reusable bags - but you have to re-use them hundreds of times to break even. So if you go grocery shopping once per week, you'd need to use your bags every trip for 4-6 years to break even. That's a long time.)

      The US creating enough plastic waste that is mismanaged to be in the top 20 by mass is not terribly surprising - since we use about a quarter of the earth's resources. But if you look at that chart it is all suppositions - reasonable suppositions, to be sure - but they are extrapolating from "mismanaged waste" numbers and "amount of plastic bought" to get to "plastic pollution".

      The real number that matters is "where is the waste in the Ocean coming from". The answer to that is China, Indonesia, the Philippines, .. basically all of southeast Asia and Africa. South America makes a decent contribution as well. We know this not via some extrapolation, but by actually collecting piles of ocean garbage and asking "where did this crap come from".

      Just because your impulse is virtuous (that we should protect the environment), that doesn't give you a pass on the rest of it. Being an authoritarian leftie is no better than being an authoritarian right-winger. And coming up with solutions that don't solve the problem merely diverts resources and attention from things that actually would help solve the problem.

    2. Re:Plastic pollution by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      [citation needed]

    3. Re:Plastic pollution by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      (Actually, to be clear, it's not even that I think a lot of this is wrong, but you're doing a lot of shouting and you should be providing links for some of this stuff; some of it is non-obvious when googling.)

    4. Re:Plastic pollution by Solandri · · Score: 1

      "Almost none"? Not even remotely true. Not the majority but we certainly contribute plenty. We are in the top 20 as far as plastic polluting countries go so, let's not get too proud of ourselves for not being the worst of the worst.

      Adding up the "Marine Debris" column in your source, the U.S. is responsible for just 1.00% - 1.04% of the ocean plastic produced by the top 20 nations. If you include the rest of the world rather than just the top 20, it's almost certainly less than 1%. Considering the U.S. represents 4.3% of the world's population, I'd say we're doing a pretty good job. You'll notice that the "% mismanaged waste" column in your chart puts the U.S. at only 2%, while most of the others are up around 80%-90%. So basically the reason the U.S. makes the top 20 is because of it's the third-most populous country on the planet, not because it's a prodigious contributor to plastic waste in the oceans (measured either by tons or kg per capita).

    5. Re:Plastic pollution by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Almost none"? Not even remotely true. Not the majority but we certainly contribute plenty. We are in the top 20 [earthday.org] as far as plastic polluting countries go

      We can agree that 1% is "not the majority," but I'm with OP that 1% is a lot closer to "almost none" then it is "plenty."

      Looking at the actual numbers in your link, the U.S. generated about .28 million metric tons of plastic waste out of a total of roughly 26.5 million metric tons across the top 20 countries. That's about 1%. The U.S. share of marine debris given in the chart is also about 1%.

      "Top 20" is a meaningless statistic in a vacuum.

  4. It's Everywhere by kackle · · Score: 1

    Yes, plastics are cheaper and often easier to deal with than other materials, but come on, you can look anywhere today and find plastic garbage. I don't see aluminum soda can pop-tops from the 1970's on the ground anymore (kids, those used to be everywhere there were people). They probably broke down already - natural recycling. You can knock incandescent light bulbs, but they require no special recycling since they are, arguably, all natural.

    I think there needs to be a recycling tax (on everything) to mitigate this new disaster. I don't see it happening (properly), but I think that's the answer, versus a total ban of plastics which would be detrimental in many cases.

    1. Re:It's Everywhere by Solandri · · Score: 1

      I don't see aluminum soda can pop-tops from the 1970's on the ground anymore (kids, those used to be everywhere there were people).

      AFAIK, the pull-tabs were only on tin cans. When aluminum cans were introduced, it was concurrent with the introduction of stay-on tabs. (For those of you too young to remember pull tabs, the scene in Jaws where Quint crushes his can with a single hand is a pretty amazing feat of strength. That's not an aluminum can. The beer cans back then were strong enough to support your weight when empty.)

      No, all those pull tabs didn't break down naturally. They're magnetic, so relatively easy to separate from dirt and rocks; and they're fairly valuable (second-most valuable after aluminum). In fact recyclers still use a magnet to separate them (and tin cans) from other recylables.

      I think there needs to be a recycling tax (on everything) to mitigate this new disaster.

      Possibly. But good luck getting a recycling tax passed in China, Indonesia, the Philippines, Vietnam, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Egypt, Malaysia, South Africa, India, and Algeria. They are by far the biggest source of the problem, accounting for nearly 90% of the plastic dumped into the oceans. Tightening up plastic waste disposal in other countries is largely ineffectual because even if you completely eliminated plastic use in the other countries, it would hardly affect the problem.

    2. Re:It's Everywhere by kackle · · Score: 1

      Politically, I lean to the right. I just don't see a better solution. The people who are "making" the mess should clean it up, no?

    3. Re:It's Everywhere by kackle · · Score: 1
      I'm pretty sure I grew up with aluminum pop-top cans. I'd have to look around for confirmation.

      But good luck getting a recycling tax passed in China, Indonesia, the Philippines, Vietnam, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Egypt, Malaysia, South Africa, India, and Algeria. They are by far the biggest source of the problem, accounting for nearly 90% of the plastic dumped into the oceans. Tightening up plastic waste disposal in other countries is largely ineffectual because even if you completely eliminated plastic use in the other countries, it would hardly affect the problem.

      Good point. I guess I was thinking about closer to home (on land), which is still a problem, but probably not as bad.

  5. travel cures ignorant assumptions by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

    >"Even if true, that doesn't free you from the responsibility to lead by example. PS: China has banned plastic bags.Most of Africa has banned plastic bags (four years prison in Kenya!). Has your country."

    Our country (USA) is responsible for almost none of the plastic in the ocean. We do lead by example by generally not littering, by reusing bags, by recycling them, and by disposing of them properly. Banning plastic bags (and straws) here would change very, very little in waste except make it more inconvenient for most people. If you don't want to use them, nobody is forcing you to... bring/use your own reusable bags and straws.

    I imagine styrofoam is more of a problem, anyway.

    Before you spout such nonsense, I suggest you travel the world and visit a few developed countries to make up an educated comparison in where we are when it comes to recycling at the micro and macro level.

  6. Regressive Tax by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I think there needs to be a recycling tax (on everything) to mitigate this new disaster.

    The problem is, where do you apply that tax? Because almost all of the ocean plastics come from the third world (and China, I don't really think of them as third world)... can they afford the tax you are proposing? I think instead of a tax some kind of viable alternative for the plastics they are using needs to be in place.

    I agree that plastic trash is a problem everywhere but a lot of first world areas (like the U.S. or Europe) have done a pretty good job greatly reducing plastic waste that gets into the environment, especially by reducing the use of plastic bags from stores.

    I do a lot of work picking up trash around my community and elsewhere, in recent years there has been a notable reduction in the amount of plastic bags blowing around outside (there are still some).

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  7. Wrong by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    More libertarian is to come up with an alternative that is better, not to tax something in a way that inherently harms poor people - that's the domain of liberals seeking to create victims to exploit.

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    1. Re:Wrong by kackle · · Score: 1

      Sixty years in and I've barely seen any biodegradable plastics, for whatever reasons. (Wood televisions would be cool, though.)

      I don't see how continuing to pollute the environment so the poor can buy cheaper junk helps anything; I suspect they will be poor either way. Paper bags versus plastic isn't their biggest problem.

      For the bigger items, maybe implement a "recycling deposit" where the person gets his money back when he brings the TV to the recycling center. I don't know; 'just spit-balling.