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An Anonymous Coward writes "The aMozilla Project has been established with the sole aim of porting Netscape 5
Communicator to the Amiga Platform. Two versions will be made, a 68k port
and a PowerPC port. You can find more information here.
"
Public clues are available at;
http://www.amiga.com
and
http://www.amiga.de
I assure you Gateway indeed owns all the Amiga software, and hardware technology, as well as all the Commodore Patents.
Hmm.. and only five days after MozillaZine posted the story.
Let's put it this way: How far do you need to alter an Ferrari F-40 to get it into racing setup? Very little. The whole machine is designed for speed, lean and spartan. The same way with the Amiga. It doesn't need a 450MHz CPU to MULTITASK! Have you ever seen a A1000 multitask, with its MC68000 at 7.19 MHz? I OWN an A1000, among other machines.
The Amiga HAD MULTIMEDIA before Joe Public even considered it possible. So there. It had a lot less to work on, that's my point. To get a Wintel platform up to such tasks, well...It took more than a decade for the PC to start multitasking.
Oh, and before you say I am just another ignorant Amiga geek, I've been through 7 machiners in the last 11 years, including an Amstrad CPC464, three PCs and 4 Amigas. I can SEE the difference. I remember first seeing the CDTV in the early '90s, when VERY FEW PC's had sound cards, even a humble AdLib. Having a settop box that could playback video & audio from cd is no mean feat. True, Commodore screwed up but hey, the Amiga survived and will go on, no matter what.
Stelios Kalogreades
IBM clones havent really changed since 15 years every real change would make them incompatible.
Goto www.amiga.com or www.qnx.com
Amiga/Gateway have chosen qnx as the new OS core
for AmigaNG. Qnx is a posix core and is used
by NASA among others. A next gen. Amiga is
scheduled for the end of'99.
Shup up!
Amiga is the best system of the whole history!
Multitasking, autoconfig. (read plug and play),
user friendly, fast, during the last *6* (six)
years I installed the OS only ONCE!
How many times did you installed Winsuxx 95?
How slow does MacOS 8 run?
No the only problem of Amiga was the commodore
not its bankruptcy but its exinnstance.
now I hope in Gateway, but it must be clear:
Amiga is the best.
Blow your "PC" out of your "windows"
Amiga will never die!
Massimo Billi - MAC -
If you look at market share, you see a split down the middle between MS and Netscape's browsers for Windows and Macintosh. What you don't see is either of these browsers for most other platforms (I'm disregarding previously abandoned ports, like Navigator for OS/2). If Netscape had waged an all-out war on MSIE and ported to every imaginable platform they wouldn't have needed to be bought by AOL. The opening of Mozilla proves my point. After the game is played, it seems the best strategies are formed.
There is already an Amiga W3C (did I get that right?) browser available that is completely free and I believe (to use the politically correct) "open source" (*compulsion to wash hands*). Not that anybody cares because the Amiga is dead. It was a way cool machine but face it, it's more popular as a doorstop today than a computer. Get over it. Do something more useful.
Brute force speed in PCs is nice and necessaty to get it to behave
comfortably multitask. The Amiga does it with less speed and more
grace and comfort.(IMHO) How I choose to get from point A to point B
is why I still choose my Amiga over my PC.
the W3C browser is called Amaya.
To the best of my knowledge, there is no
Amiga version
And yes, it is open source
More:
http://www.w3.org/amaya
A thing that pisses me of is when some Brain Washed by Gates PeeCee Lamers, who dont know NOTHING about the Amiga, (most of them never had that priviledge) start talking crap about a computer thats completely unknown to them!
:) Amiga users never had a problem in running dozens of programs sharing the same library. Thats the superior concept of the AmigaOS and his libs!
Whats the problem on Netscape being ported to
the AMiGA computer?! I guess some of these PeeCee users still remember (kind of inferiority syndrome) when programs that were previously released for their machines and then ported to the Amiga... The Amiga versions were ALWAYS A LOT BETTER than on the pc.
As I am a games programmer/designer for a relatively well-known software house and I have to work everyday with peecees, I know the crappy machines these computers (?) are. My software house just stopped to develop for the Amiga computer (unfortunately) due to the bankrupcy of C= and the undefined situation of the Amiga. It made a lot of users leaving the platform. Users leaving a platform means less market for a product. Like all the people, we need to live and software is our business. We cant invest time and money on a thing that wont sell due to a reduced userbase. Some people tend to say software developers left the Amiga because it is an inferior computer and the pc is a lot better... NO!!! Like all businesses, the only thing that matters is MONEY. The Amiga always were a much better machine than pc at its core and flexibility!
So keep going on!
Long Live the AMiGA...
PS: PeeCee users, Try running two program using the same DLL!
Think about it!
Well, peecees only started REAL multitasking with the advent of Windoze95. 3.x Multitasking (ahahahahha!) is a joke!
Since the Amiga features REAL, PREEMPTIVE multitasking since the 1st model (A1000) that was released in 1985, I can say the AMiGA was *Fully* ten years (A decade) ahead of any PeeCee or any other computer.
Windows an EXCELLENT OS?!?!? Eheheh... Nothing like a good joke to start the year!
:)
DONT MAKE ME LAUGH!!!
Oh yeah?! So eat this...
:)
When A3000 was released, 3 versions were built, one of them being A3000UX (Unix based model). The UNIX engineers who were working on the A3000 UNIX implementation said the following:
"Why are we doing this?! This OS (AmigaOS) is so good, that we should have been working on a implementation of this operating system on UNIX machines instead of the opposite!!!"
GO FIGURE!!!
Sorry to disppoint you, but I was talking about NATIVE operating systems, not implementations!
The PeeCee native OS is a load of junk... Single Task crap! The native AmigaOS came with a GUI running only on a humble A500 8Mhz 512K RAM with no clashes at all and doing PERFECT Multitasking.
Thats what ya could expect for a nearly perfect machine, a great OS running on a superbly designed computer!!!
I had thought the crazy "Amiga will never die" guy was a parody of the Amiga zealots that killed off a perfectly good machine.
--B
Why stop with the Amiga, let's support all the Commodore machines, right back to the KIM-1 :-).
But seriously, I keep hearing rumours that Gateway is the heir to the Amiga intellectual property, and they plan to put out both new machines, and a new version of the AmigaOS. Is there any concrete news (release dates, beta tests)?
----
Open mind, insert foot.
Posted by nOMAAM:
... all i keep hearing is that amiga needs to port more and more pc/mac etc. ... well .. maybe they do but ! ... for example ... the tcp/ip stack miami would be nice to run on a pc.
... i know ... i tried
:)
port this, port that
programs
I have a peecee and I run winblows on it and I would like to see some amiga programs beeing ported to the pc
The file manager dOPUS and IRC proggy AmIRC.. etc. etc.
And please don't reply to this with "get UAE or Amiga forever" (Amiga emulators) because they all can't keep up with a Amiga500
nOMAAM
What about an Apple IIe port?
;-)
-Eric
Besides, I thought the 'net was supposed to encourage free expression and thought. I didn't realize I'd have to conform to the lowest common denominator to have a voice.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
... and make it run in 512 Kb RAM... :-D
Right On!
Im really happy to actually see support for amigaos (i run a cnet amiga bbs)
does anyone know if gateway is going to do anything with the amiga platform? everyone i know has pretty much given up waiting... but i would still like to see something new come out... nothing quite beats a complete amiga setup with the newest version of Directory Opus - MagellanII.....
Cybie! aka Ralph Bonnell
There are quite a few differences between the 1000 and the 4000 actually...
;)
the 4000 has a 32 bit bus, the 1000 only had a 16bit bus...
heck, the 1000 didnt even have standard zorro slots (had 1 zorroII slot, but wasnt a standard slot)....
the 4000 itself is actually quite a nice machine... has a Zorro III bus and uses standard 72 pin simms... (which was nice after all the proprietary crap that was associated with the GVP 2000 accelerators) (disclaimer: GVP stuff is still nice, just was a pain to upgrade ram on them)
remember, back when it was out, it was years ahead of the competition... of course, it couldnt compete today, but with a COMPLETE redesign, the Amiga name could be used again
Cybie! aka Ralph Bonnell
Oh, well in that case it only took them 7 years, not "a decade". PC users can all breath a sigh of relief now.
Yes, I'm an Amigoid? Amigan? Bah. Amiga user. Gateway certainly does have the rights to the Amiga technology, but questions float around constantly as to excatly what they're planning on doing with their acquisition. AmigaOS 3.5 is scheduled for release very soon, but it's basically 3.1 with some of the nifty shareware apps and commoddities integrated into the OS itself to ensure some measure of standardization and integratability (ie: won't have apps written by two different authours smashing into each other). OS4.0, or OS5dev, is being made to run on a Intel based developer box with custom Amiga architechure added on as a card. That's to act as a developer bridge system while the boys at Amiga Inc. argue over what their new box is going to look like. That's when OS5.0 proper should make its appearance. There are lots of sites if you're really interested in doing some digging. My faves include: The Amiga Web Directory Amiga.org Amiga International National Amiga PPCRulez Linux/APUS You get the idea. :^)
-DrPsycho - Coping with reality since 1975
I am amazed that Amiga is still around. This thing was designed in what , 1984-85 ??? What's more if you look at A 1000 and A 4000 there is not that much difference between those two ( well, there is but not as much as say, between first PC clones and latest pentium .)
Yeah, I have seen A600 multitask. I owned one. ...
Gave it away about 2 years ago
Firstly, Amiga/Gateway have not announced what harware the new Amiga
e lecoms ect ect
will be based on - only that the new OS will be by QNX who provide
their Os for use in the NASA space shuttle among other majar
companies. It is used because it is a small, compact, romable stable
OS core based on posix/unix. It is available for download at their
website for numerous platforms. It is quite small unlike MS windoze
Secondly Amiga/Gateway have said that they do not intend to
manufacture any hardware and simply intend to licence the various
Amiga technologies - as they do with the current "Amiga Classic"
Thirdly, Gateway has it's "Digital Convergance" strategy whereby it
aims to integrate Amiga Technologies transparently into consumer goods
as tv/computers/video/cable/satellite/DVD/internet/t
all merge - perhaps eventually into one box.
Amiga inc should have their development box out any day now which uses
intel PC and probably PC version of QNX neutrino OS
By the way this has been written on an A1200 tower dual 25mhz 040,
240mhz PPC,BlizzardVision Permedia2 graphics card, 128Mb Ram, prelude
sound card, 32*CD-ROM, 8GB HD, 17" monitor
I also have a P200 so I can bring home my work, but thats the only
time I ever use it - I can not believe how bloated windoze'98 is. I
have used Acorn Archimedes, Amigas , Atari's, Apples, Linux, NetBSD
and windows is simply overbloated crap.
I can only hope that the new Amiga and OS will be licenced freely and
openly. Since the new(and old) OS are closely releated to unix,
hopefully they will be free source
Alan Day - Dumfries & Galloway, Scotland, UK