Heretic/Hexen Source Code Release

COOL by Anonymous Coward · 1999-01-12 01:41 · Score: 0

That's pretty cool, Hexen has always been a favorite game of mine

RTFLA, meathead. by Anonymous Coward · 1999-01-12 02:26 · Score: 0

If that's their license, it's not very open source. Even the QPL is tons better.

... was a cool game at the time ... by Anonymous Coward · 1999-01-12 03:02 · Score: 0

The people who made System Shock just released a game called Thief: The Dark Project. It's a 3d game that actually requires you to use you head and use stealth rather than firepower. DEFINATELY try downloading the demo! I haven't been this much drawn in to a first person game since I first ever tried the original Doom, the the world of Thief is MUCH better(although I have not yet tried Half-Life).

Respectfully
Kevin Christie
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I suppose... by Anonymous Coward · 1999-01-12 03:16 · Score: 0

Even better then that was rise of the triad. Rott wasnt too great on the graphics end but it was sure fun as hell multiplayer, i still play it more multiplayer then quake.

Wipe the brown stuff off your upper lip, moron. by Anonymous Coward · 1999-01-12 10:13 · Score: 0

Care to kiss a little more ass, retard? Most of those
license agreements are pre-fabricated and slapped
on. As we've been told, they encourage repackaging
in a ZIP format, which only furthers my claims.

You live life...then you die. Life a little.

Yay! =) by Anonymous Coward · 1999-01-12 11:36 · Score: 0

Actually I thought Doom (or was it Dumb) could run Heritic wads (not sure about Hexen tho).

Actually, dumb works with heritic files. by Anonymous Coward · 1999-01-12 13:26 · Score: 0

The play was kinda weird though. lightening fast drawing of the walls at rather high resolution. and characters that moved at one inch per second :).

I would rather see somebody get dumb working better with heritic, hexen and other stuff, than port hexen/heretic source to linux. however since the source is out there, maybe we could use it to improve dumb?

hmm by Anonymous Coward · 1999-01-13 00:50 · Score: 0

/me waits for someone to whine about you giving the ``linux community'' a ``bad image'' by ``doing that \\'aReZ stuph''... :p

Seriously, tho, a site called linuxonline.org probably shouldn't have those files... ;)

- RF (dfelker@cnu.edu)

Fool... by Anonymous Coward · 1999-01-14 08:13 · Score: 0

Id has released a subset of the Quake src for a while now, it's available from their web site and mirror site *duh*

Get your head out of JC's ass.

a port of Hexen/Heretic on Mac OS X Server by Anonymous Coward · 1999-01-18 08:26 · Score: 0

It comes out when Apple ships Consumer Release 1.
Read more on stepwise.com for details

Stored as .EXE by Mark+J+Tilford · 1999-01-12 01:47 · Score: 1

I looked at it, but discovered the file to download was a .EXE file (probably a self-extracting archive). Geez, what's wrong with a simple .ZIP file?

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hmm by drwiii · 1999-01-12 21:07 · Score: 1

I like the Quake source code better.

I suppose... by PHroD · 1999-01-12 01:50 · Score: 1

I SUPPOSE its cool...but like i really couldn't care about Hexen anymore. It was a cool game at the time, but its like totally outdated, kind of like too little, too late. However it IS a good step forward for Linux gaming in general. What's REALLY gonna kick some ass is the simultanious Q3 release on Linux, Mac and Win32. Hell yeah :)

_DOOM_ clone?? by Phil+Gregory · 1999-01-12 04:42 · Score: 1

Well, I've never played hexen, so I'm not qualified to comment in it, but Doom as "just another bloody Wolfenstein 3D clone"? Doom was significantly more than just a Wolf3D clone. Its engine allowed a lot more things, like floors and ceiling heights, moving platforms, and walls meeting at angles other than multiples of 90 degrees. The concepts were different too. Wolf3D didn't have toxic slime (or whatever that damaging green stuff was).

Likewise, Quake was a leap ahead of Doom. I'm not so sure about Quakes II and III, since my lowly P75 won't run them very well.

--Phil (Who still likes "Beyond Castle Wolfenstein".)

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... was a cool game at the time ... by Rational · 1999-01-12 04:09 · Score: 1

Funny... The one thing I hated about System Shock was the controls. Horses for courses.

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I sure hope efficient high-res support comes out by Jeff+DeMaagd · 1999-01-12 01:50 · Score: 1

I sure hope efficient high-res support comes out. I can play Descent in 640x480 but it is a bit slow and that mode does not allow the console to be scaled down. Plus I guess the code should be optimized better for non assembly for other archs.

Yay! =) by WWWWolf · 1999-01-12 02:39 · Score: 1

Well, never actually liked Hexen (just another bloody Doom clone), but nice to see another game with sources out there.

Try using "unzip". by squarooticus · 1999-01-12 02:08 · Score: 1

Try using "unzip".

Self extracting zip files are just zipfiles with a program header. They will unzip correctly...

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*IGNORE* the License "Agreement" by ewhac · 1999-01-12 02:30 · Score: 1

I have a really, really big problem with highly restrictive, extremely one-sided contracts that you can find yourself bound to without your knowledge or consent. (Clicking on a button does not constitute a meaningful form of consent.) I wrote a longish editorial on this subject a couple years ago.

I have ignored the terms of every shrinkwrap license "agreement" I have ever encountered. (In particular, I always reserve the right to disassemble and reverse-engineer any code that lawfully comes into my possession.) However, I still observe the precepts of copyright law, which is more than sufficient protection for software publishers.

Schwab

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It's Legal! by bonehead · 1999-01-12 05:57 · Score: 1

While it's nice that you got the reply that you did, and it would probably be enough to protect you from legal action, it would REALLY be nice if some of these companies would take a glance at their license and make sure it says what they mean before releasing code under said license.

Not meant as a flame towards Raven, releasing the code was definitely a cool thing to do. It's just that I've seen this exact scenario repeating itself lately.

Similar? by Krelle · 1999-01-12 01:52 · Score: 1

I thought Hexen/Heretic just was an improved/modified version of good old Doom? Well, what about a GlHeretic or GlHexen? :-)

Code merge with GLDoom et al? by redwraith · 1999-01-12 01:55 · Score: 1

It would be awesome if the folks who are doing
GL DooM and Boom (I think they are merging?) could incorporate the Hexen/Heretic code into their code as well, basically creating a generic WAD player.

A lofty goal, and one that I myself am not up to, but I s'pose some good wishful thinking.

BTW, I wouldn't flame Raven for this, but it would have been cool if they could have shipped a zip instead of an exe, seeing as they supported the idea of linux. But then again, anyone porting would probably need a DOS box lying around for testing the original operation.

It is an installer BTW, an not just a self extractor.

Good news. by BigZaphod · 1999-01-12 01:40 · Score: 1

This is really sweet news. If all game companies would follow this model of releasing source after a generation or two the world would be a better place. I certainly don't expect them to release source for modern games, but after they are no longer being sold opening the source can keep them alive. Cool!