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Greyfox wrote
in to say that a chunk of gnew gnome stuff
is up. Full set of 0.99.3 tar balls for those livin' on the edge.
In a related bit,
GVeloper wrote in
to mention the new cross referenced gtk documentation
at GTK Dev Central
Several other folks have commented that yet another Linux Kernel
2.2 prerelease is out. Hit the mirrors if you want it.
My favorite BSD Equal Time activist,
Jesse Shrieve wrote in to
tell us that you can get metal FreeBSD squares
to attach to your cases.
maphew sent us a link to milo
which claims to be a telnetable TRS-80. "I remember when" yada yada.
That was my first programming experience.
Next, a few Slashdot bits:
Epitaph sent us a interesting little
piece of Evidence of the Slashdot Effect in Effect: The
results of a
Petition against
Canadian CD-R Tax.
rive submitted
a simple perl script that converts Slashdot Headlines to Window Maker Menus.
Clever.
DGibson wrote in to
tell us that Slashdot rated Coolest site at Planet Click.
Last of all, insanity never stops:An anonymous joker sent
us a link to The All Squirrels Must Die page.
and William Tanksley sent us
a link to the shrunken heads HOWTO. Be
afraid.
I remember people used to call the TRS 80 a
"Trash 80" computer...
Also, will the shrunken head HOWTO be incorporated
into the Linux Documentation Project? Yeah I know
that it has to be converted into SGML format...
Heh, I still have mine. I's a TRS-80 CoCo 2. I can't find info anywhere about it anymore, everyone mentions the model 1, then the model 3. wtf, where'd model 2 (the one I happen to have) go?
:-)
No hard drive, no floppy drive, only an (optional) tape drive. Uses plain old audio cassates, too. It's also got a game cartridge port, which sort of works.
Hmm, also a 2400 baud serial port. Time to get this thing hooked up to the 'net!
(How many people can say that the modem's CPU is more powerful than the computer they're typing on?
At least I can't find it at any mirror.
Just got 2.2.0-pre7 to work flawlessly with RH5.2...
Hopefully this one will just Plug Right In (tm).
My first time seeing everything...
Genius, sheer Genius.... I loved it and discovered all sorts of useless stuff...like Perl the dog
For a strange reason, /. says I'm logged in as stevied.
Anyways, pre8 is out. How do I know? Not from logging in kernel.org every second like someone said..
iniquity:~> finger @ftp.kernel.org
[linux.kernel.org]
The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.0.36
The latest beta version of the Linux kernel is: 2.1.132
The latest prepatch (alpha) version *appears* to be: 2.2.0-pre8
The Co-cos and 'model x' are entirely different breeds. For coco info you want:
. html
http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab594/coco/coco
-srw
Hey, I had the same problem. Then I checked my ISP's FTP site, and low behold, it had it :)
Don't you just love fast downloads, from your ISP's FTP site?
Bah, you can't access it, if you're not on the ISP
I get so confused with all the different models, with the same number, but different style, or whatever.
but hey, it was my first computer, and I was 2 years old at the time. And apart from all the crap that's built up inside it, it STILL WORKS.
I remember there used to be a squirrel haters' page a while back, with twisted pictures of the rodents(?) being treated to a few surprises. All in good fun of course...
...that we just slashdotted a 1MHz CPU.
Have we no shame?
Ahhh... a Model 4! Those were the days -- when real men didn't use full-screen editors and had to make 64 kilobytes do everything. The box this guy has is very cool; the machine I worked on had dual 8" floppies (and floppy they were). This of course was a big step up from the Model 1 I cut my teeth on (4KB, cassette tape) and the "enhanced" version with 16,384 spacious bytes of RAM in which to frolic....
I think that the BSD-mascot just rocks. We got to get rid of the fat penguin as our mascot. Who desided that Pingu should represent Linux??
My girlfriend dumped Linux in favour of FreeBSD just because of Chuck. And that really sucks.
(damn return key submitting a blank comment...grr...)
I just ran queso on the box in question:
# queso frank.searchlight.com
216.214.2.40:80 * Windoze 95/98/NT
CARRIER DROPPED
Anyone know of a source for Linux versions?
Something with either Tux or a "Linux Inside" logo?
Thanx
AdamL.
http://sprawl.net
Read here http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,38 3862,00.html and here http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,38 3856,00.html . Now prepare for the NT loyalists to start fuding about this until windows NT opps I mean windows 2000 comes out. Linux unscalable. Come on!
> I just ran queso on the box in question:
> # queso frank.searchlight.com
> 216.214.2.40:80 * Windoze 95/98/NT
Let's see you write a tcp/ip stack plus telnetd plus a bbs in 64k of RAM! The way I would do this (and the way i'm assuming he has) is to have another computer accept the telnet and simply redirect it to the serial port on the trs-80. (Of course, I'd use a linux box to accept the telnet... not a M$ one.)
-srw
Wow, aren't we impressed. Yet another person who can't spell posting a pro-nt message! Now, about your post... I thought you said you replaced Linux on a P233 with NT... and then you took the machine down to install NT 5.0.. and because it supports "clustering" you can do this.. well, where is the rest of the cluster?? AFAIK, it's not possible to have a cluster with just one machine.. but hmm, oh well, that's ok. Your employees who set up the linux box deserved to be fired if they weren't able to set up a machine that outperformed NT in web services.. IIS is a dog.
I want to have special plate logos made up, like the BSD folks did. Does anyone know of a place in the U.S. that does this kind of work?
Tux isn't a good mascot? It's a *great* mascot! My mom thought Tux was so cute she wanted to use Linux, so I setup an account for her on my old 486 at home! Well, I guess some people probably wouldn't be as attracted to a fat penguin...
He is cute, isn`t he? A mothers dream.
I vote for him.
He's doing something to that squirrel's ass, but he ain't castrating it...
Hmm.. I'm sub'd to linux-kernel and Linus hasn't /. seems to be
mentioned a 'release' pre8. There's a testing
pre-8 been around for a while.
very good at predicting kernel releases before
they actually happen these days..
Or does someone out there just constantly ftp
to ftp.kernel.org and check every few minutes
just so they can have a new kernel a few minutes
before everyone else? Is that the real reason it
got overloaded? Are these the same people that
always download the tarball rather than using
patch?
Wow, I just downloaded the full 2.2.0-pre8 from ftp.ca.kernel.org at over 65kbytes/s! That's astounding, especially considering my pitiful excuse for an ISP, and the fact that this is a brand-new release.
\\'
... at least, I just applied something that called itself "patch-2.2.0-pre8.gz" to my kernel tree, and I've got it compiling now...
ftp1.us.kernel.org, at least, has the patch.
Pluto is a PLANET, dammit!
:)
WTF is Goofy?
Oops, wrong thread
either way, don't bother.
...phil
"For a list of the ways which technology has failed to improve our quality of life, press 3."
Looks like the 64KB, 2 Floppy, expanded character set model. I learned how to program on these machines (used to hang around Radio Shacks alot).
:)
Why not hack a very specialized minimal Linux kernel and support packages that run from floppies. TRS-80s are still useful as microcontrollers for discrete hardware - security systems, gadgets, and gizmos. All you have to remember is to ground them well and you're safe.
Codifex Maximus ~ In search of... a shorter sig.
Posted by OGL:
Here come the KDE/GNOME flamewars, live from this thread...
Brace yourselves.
-W.W.
Posted by Mephie:
Wow those faceplaces are nifty. Anyone know who they got manufacturing them? I would love to take one of my rendered pics and slap it on a few (hundred)faceplates... =)
--Mephie
Also, anyone know of a good poster production house? I have a 151 meg targa that's just iching to be hung on a wall.
Posted by dbeutel:
;-). Model IV has no floppies, 64K RAM, standard graphics... hmm, wonder if i could run Minix on either of these... ;-)
Got a Model III and IV. Model III has dual 5.25" floppies and tape, 48K of RAM AND... (drumroll please) a 640x200 extended graphics card
Posted by dbeutel:
;-) (BTW... use really good labels or super glue, otherwise they *will* fall off... this is the voice of experience ;-)...
Well, being the cheapskate that I am, I came up with a faceplate solution that works fairly well. I just print a bunch 1"x1" pics onto standard label stock and cover them w/ clear packing tape. Looks almost as good as manufactured logo, AND you don't have to pay to have it full color
I could have sworn that I just saw GNOME 0.99.4 announced on gnome-announce. I think it was the "Preening Bonobo" release. No such mention on the web page, though. Am I mistaken, or have they just not updated things yet?
--Phil (Maybe I shouldn't delete mail after I read it.)
355/113 -- Not the famous irrational number PI, but an incredible simulation!
The Slashdot effect will probably reduce that TRS-80 to a pile of molten slag...
Hellelujah! Thanks be to GDEV! At last, cross-referenced documentation for GTK...
:-)
THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU
Im thinking the guy just droped a PC motherboard into a TRS-80 case..and hooked the CRT upto a normal MDA card. This TRS-80 is using IBM style 5.25" and 3.5" floppy drives...and a IBM style TAPE drive,so i think its safe to say that this thing also has a HARDDRIVE! Come on. Ya i know the TRS-80's came with 5Meg HDs..BUT they where realy big and where EXTERNAL.
OR
maybe the guy is realy crazy and hacked the TRS-80 so much that it can realy do all this stuff..maybe ill Email him and ask for more info
I have to return some videotapes...
Somewhere, way back in that dumpster that I use for a brain, I remember reading that the TRS-80's, or at least the I and III, didn't have all their interrupts working - that the wires going to the CPU were only attached at one end, or some support logic was missing, or something. I'd think something like that would tend to prevent something like Minix from working.
~ radiographite: art by john shepard
I don't rememebr the link, but not long ago I went back and looked at the survey of favorite net personalities. I think it was on ZDnet someplace. When it first was posted here Jennie of Jennicam fame was by far the leader. Now number 1 in Linus closely followed by Jennie.
I guess a mention of E-Sense being released isn't important enough. Since there are more MS users visitors, i thought it could have been mentioned. E-Sense is the Windows lookalike to Enlightenment. Thsi is the first PreBeta release, so if you are stuck using windows for some reason or another you can feel right at home... I suggest if you are a linux junkie, but are using MS software, you should visit floach.pimpin.net
get shells (something like WindowManagers), and other goodies to hook up your desktop...
Its spelt "L-I-N-U-X", but pronunced as "Free Beer"
seriously tho.... kudos to the guys that did this :)
:) on the mighty c64, and both telnetd and a basic httpd on geckos for quite some time!.
:).
on that note tho, we've had telnetd in lunix (no, not linux, lunix
(i'm also writing a grafical www browser for it, too -> check my www page at http://alih.wow64.org
- Jaymz
Commodore 64, Loading up the dance floor!
The TRS-80's had a Zilogic Z80 CPU which was a simi clone (a superset to be more acurate) of the Intel 8080 CPU. TRS-80's were little more than fancy Altairs.
If I remember correctly, the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer refered to usually as a CoCo had a Motorola M6800 CPU in it. Or at least a chip from that generation of CPU. This is not to be confused with the M68000 series of chips which were entirely diferenct, thus the extra zero. 8-)
I need one of those t-shirts at this site.. Slashdot the hell out of this site so they'll get to printing the tshirts for me :)
i'm going to start making shrunken head apples for a living!
V
hmmmm . . . which is more important to me. Compiling the new kernel (which IS available) or running the DES client? Decisions, decisions, decision.
"Where is my mind?"