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Feel good linux article
Infoworld has a
feel-good article about Linux' recent growth, and things
we can expect from Linux-friendly industry giants in the future.
Link from LWN.
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When my employer bought a HP 4000 printer, I returned the registration form with some mods. Since I plugged it into a SAMBA server, I modified the OS question by adding and checking Linux.
I also included a polite and spell checked note on company letterhead asking them to port the printer management software to Linux.
Maybe it helped.
just thought id put this on there for
all those historians who will look
back 10 years from now and say what happened
Why is someone who wants to interface with applications a fool? Good applications are easy-to-use applications which save people time and open new possibilities in using computers to do things (which don't necessarily refer back to computers). Developers who write hard-to-use applications are incompetent. They can't code so they become sysadmins. What's the purpose of software, anyway? To be hard to use? Perhaps it is for those who need it to be so for job security, so they can administer systems to users as cogs in the wheels of corporate entities. Of course that is necessary with large enterprises, but Linux fanatics often confuse development with administration. The two have opposite goals. Developers want to make things easy for users, and sysadmins want things to be difficult enough to justify what they do.
"We'll have to cater to the non-technical crowd" indicates definitely that you will not be the preson to do that. Remember, the customer is always right is the motto of a developer. Restrict the customer's rights is the motto of a sysadmin.
NT, unix, MVS - all suck. Down with systems. Up with non-systems that allow users to do more with computers.
IMHO, this is very significant.
If Tivoli goes tier 1 with this, then this is bigger news than when IBM went with apache. This puts Linux into part of the Enterprise management solution of the biggest players of the industry. My guess is if this happens, we'll start seeing more businesses openly testing Linux as a server solution.
I was helping out with the network at a name brand non profit, where someone was complaining about how complicated Word97 was. I mentioned I might have an old copy of Wordstar with the manual. "Really? How much do you want for it?" I made up a number, $200. They wrote a check for it on the spot. I should have asked for more.
I still see people using Tornado Notes, or its successor Info Select, and even Sidekick, these are all text screen DOS apps.
It's just amazing. There is definitely a second life for all this stuff, and Linux is as good as any place to live it. They aren't complex apps and all are written in C. It shouldn't be that hard to port and market them and generate a revenue stream. Go figure.
For linux to go mainstream we have to cater to the non technical crowd. This means like a previous poster said, creating simple popular applications such as AOL clients etc.
9 out of 10 computer users I see here at college doen't care about the operating system. They just want to be able to look at the web, use email, and use applications that they need for class or for other reasons. One thing that they like about windows is that they just click on one link and it installs in the right place and puts an icon where they can easily find it. They don't know what a file stucture is and they don't care to learn. They interface witht he applications and not how it gets there.
I'm all for linux, got a dual boot setup on my own computer and I try to write platform independent code. Still, I'm hoping some developers also see this trend and start to program for these types of people, because that's were the money is. rememmber a fool and his money are easily parted...
I'm glad the HP Openview teams are hearing the
calls loud & clear - demonstrating their eagerness
to retain market leadership.
But porting HP Openview to linux is just the beginning - it's just the network management
framework on which tools can be developed. Now
we will have to convince the tens of thousands of
application developers who have used openview as a
base to port their tools to openview over linux.
If Openview finds the market demand for linux, I'm sure we can convince NM app developers of the same.
Keep it up, HP!
"...Linux inventor Linus Torvalds..."
gee, i always thought Linux was devloped, not invented...
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otter?
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HP OpenView on Linux would be a big win. Anyone who's ever had the non-pleasure of running large network management systems on Windows NT will agree that Unix is definitely the way to go; unfortunately, many IS departments will scoff at the often prohibitive cost of Sun or HP hardware. OpenView on Linux would combine the power and reliability of Unix with the economy of commodity hardware. Funny how those same reasons keep coming up for app after app.
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This is probably slightly off topic...
Speaking of industry giants supporting Linux, how well do the Dell Poweredge servers with RAID and all work with Linux?
I heard that Dell was pre-installing Linux on some of these beasts, so I suppose it works. Does anyone have any experience with this? I'm hoping to set up a 100 client samba PDC using one of these things..
...when there's an AOL client available for it.
Seriously -- if Compaq and HP are getting on board this train, anybody want to bet how long before we see MS Office for *ix? (They'll probably never swallow their crow sandwich and call it "... for Linux.")
"How many light bulbs does it take to change a person?" --BMcC-->
Where else have we seen this:
"It's a best-of-breed Unix," Noxon added.
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I've seen (and installed) Linux on a poweredge and it worked very nicely. the box has 136 days of uptime right now... it doesn't have RAID though, so I don't know how supported that is ...
There has been a Linux port for the Tivoli Framework for more than a year now. It was done by a support engineer. I played with it a bit when I worked in support at Tivoli last year.
It works as well as any other Tivoli product on other platforms.
damon
InnoSystems® InnoVator® provides best-of-breed support for applications in the enterprise.
I don't know why, but just hearing the same tired phrases repeated over and over again in articles makes me feel vaguely sick.
D
Better yet, use vi exclusively, dumbhead.
Microsoft should sue!
Isn't Best-of-Breed-UNIX kind of
three moto?
PS. This is a troll. ":)