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Pentium III Slogan Revealed.
The guy in
the next cubicle writes "Looks like Intel has an
official slogan for the Pentium
III processor: "This Way In." You can make up your
own joke. " I'll muffle my own jokes. It's just too easy.
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Is that one of the ones in the category of "too obvious"?
They laughed at Einstein. They laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. -- C. Sagan
...didn't they use that same slogan for Roach Motel?
Your money takes "This Way In"to Intel's bank account.
That blue door is the gateway for "The Man" into your computer. "The Man" can be substituted for your friendly neighborhood government agency of choice.
If the P3 is the way in, is Windows the way out?
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Linux: (to MS users) "Where the hell have you BEEN all day?"
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Instead of a door for "This Way In", they should have used a picture of another type opening.
CAN ANYONE GUESS WHAT THAT IS ???
i8086/Fishhead
jason.salopek@usa.net
The same way Apple's think different forces you to meditate on it because of the grammatical issues with the phrase, I'm sure the sexual angle (you dirty birdie) or whatever wide swaths of interpretations available are on purpose. The second they've forced you to think about it for more than a quarter second, they've won, and the brand recognition attempt succeeds.
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The real Paul Vallee is slashdot userid 2192, and, what do you mean it's not cool to point out your low userid?
Help me please, I don't get it.
I only know 3 ways that might be able to improve my "Internet Experience":
1 - Bandwidth
2 - Bandwidth
3 - Bandwidth
1998 was the year of SL2YK/SL2W8 and Celery300A's.
Thanks Intel!
What will come of 1999 and the PIII?
AMD's K7 slogan should be a big police-style battering ram with the AMD logo and "We'll make our own way in" written in military-font across the side.. **BOOOM** Buh-bye little Intel door!
BOHICA!!!
Posted by tollboothwilly:
How can a P3 help me get more out of the internet?
I have yet to see my P2-333 being the bottleneck with a V.90 modem providing my connection.
Affordable bandwidth, not cpu horsepower, will enhance the internet experience.
Oh wait, I forgot you must use the word internet with all new computer technology. What crap.
Intel is paying sites to put enough Java and bloat on them that a faster CPU will help. Do a search for this on lsashdot for references.
That is rediculous. I see Intel is not racist at least, more like communist by using the "chink" in the advertising animation its almost like they are saying "This way in, so we can kick your ass and find out where you are with our new embedded ID numbers"
This way in...NO way out...
DWEEPT!!!
subject ..
send + more == money?
Pentium III : This time... it's personal.
Linux is only free if your time has no value. Windows is only free if you threaten to use Linux.
When federal agencies take too much power they tend to shift definitions of "wrong" "right" "crime" "justice" and other buzz-words like that. There is no need for a conspirancy to exist in order to build a totalitarian society :)
I knew that'd get your attention. So Intel has yet another power-hungry, hot running chip with a fruity little proprietary slot requiring another motherboard. Next year they're dropping the slotted-chip design and maybe going back to zif. One of these days they'll find a way to buy Motorola and make some truly great processors that can handle a decent floating point operation without screaming for help.
This way in, suckers.
"For people who like to get out more."
Have they been trying lately to advertise products in a negative light for a desired effect? They did this to the Celeron and if I remember right, even Andy Grove declared he hated the thing? The result was that geeks everywhere raved about the thing. (I have a cheap Celeron 300A and let me tell you how it screams...)
Could introducing the PIII with some obvious flaws just be a way to get people to check it out and start talking? That seems better than a popular practice by marketing the hell out of hype and spamming press releases with misleading claims about what, say, NT can do. At least they do not mislead the way of NT advertising and give the impression one box will put up your web page (that will ultimately require $1000000 in cals, an army of machines, and a staff of push button operators for sub-unix performance.)
The PIII looks like a good chip if no back doors or ID's are enabled by default. I think Intel is being honest to an extreme in promoting this.
Posting this with 2.8r2 w/ SSL support.
or your friendly neighborhood corporation
Doesn't "PIII" look suspiciously like "PIll"?
You could read that as "Pill", as in "Intel is such a pill", or as "P-Ill", as in, "only a sicko would come up with it."
Maybe they should show the Back Oriface logo..."This way in".
Funny. My 200 mhz MMX Pentium is running just fine. Purchasing a Riva-TNT based AGP card did a lot more for me than upgrading my cpu. And I can watch DVD movies using a DVD decoder card rather than software-based viewers. (Creative Labs DXR-2) Granted, my quake doesn't run very well at 1024x768, but 640x480x16 seems to do very well.
Of course, I may upgrade to an AMD K6-3 or K6-2 400 since I don't have to upgrade my motherboard to go to those chips...but only because I want to buy another CPU anyways and re-use my 200mmx elsewhere.
So I ask myself, "Why bother?" And the poor people who buy these systems expecting "fast internet access" while their CPU sits idle while the web pages download via 56k.
For general internet viewing, a T-1 wouldn't be able to flood my pc...a DS3, maybe.
Typical marketing hype, "We'll fix everything for you." Unfortunately most people will find that the internet reliability and speed will not reach the poin of utilizing the P-III speeds until the P-III is out of date.
Oh, wait, they need that CPU to process all that extra SPAM on the net created by reading your CPU id, right???
John jbkramer@mad.scientist.com
John Kramer
God may be my co-pilot, but the devil is my backseat driver.
Haha, ;-)
Looks like Intel is really sponsoring Linux and FreeBSD - the only systems where the "feature" of being searialized is under full user control
If you do not wanna be tracked do not use windows.... Period....
I cannot help myself not to laugh.
Way to go intel.
In between, people, why not SUPPORT Intel in this serialization stuff, as long as it runs at RING 0 and is unavailable in user space... It may as well serve usefull in this case (random number generation, unique IDs, etc).
Baker's Law: Misery no longer loves company. Nowadays it insists on it
http://www.sigsegv.cx/
The kung fu guy? Am I missing something?
... Or is it more like a Bill Clinton joke?
Hard at the inhalants again?
"Ooooo yeahhhh, THAT'S the way in, Mmmmmmm..."
ha! get real...my next comp is gonna be G3- or G4-based
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Unfortunately, both Intel and Microsoft (and probably just about every other company out there) wants its customers to think it INVENTED the internet, so it knows how to make it better.
Log
Oh cmon, just go ahead and spell a German/Japanese/whatever language text.
Oh? You fscked it up? No problem - the human race defines itself by the use of (American) English.
Thanks for your enlightened comment...
Oh, BTW isnt it 'anymore' as opposed to 'any more'?
This Way Out
- A.P.
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"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad
"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
Will they still ship with those silly id tags
disabled? I cant imagine who would buy any of
those things.. Every site you go to will turn
them on and send info the next time you reboot..
Great.
We will track you bastards down and terminate you with extreme prejudice. We are now in the process of installing fake BackOrifice/Netbus programs on our machines which will log all illegal attempts and forwarded to law enforcement agencies. Kiss my arse, bastards.
Being an ad consultant to Intel, I was privy to their early ideas for slogans, and they weren't all that great either. Some trial slogans included...
"Pentium III: It makes your computer go."
"Pentium III: Stable as Bobcat Goldthwait"
"Pentium III: Mr Fancy Pants CPU"
...from the cold.
Something that would make them WANT to bother you...?
Like, for example, some kind of ponce who wants to end apartheid, or some kind of lefty-liberal-ne'erdogood who wants the convicted paedophiles at the local children's home sacked?
My goodness. Why won't these people mind their own business?
Goddammit, if you have a greivance with the goverment, then that's what firearms and bombs were designed for.
Oh, to be young (dumb and shortsigted) again!
Perhaps if *your ilk* got out more your expletives would *not* be based on UNIX commands. But that's probably some witless lefty commie varmint viewpoint.
Once they applied the slogans of major advertisers to condoms. It was pretty funny:
GM condom: Like a rock.
Secret condom: Strong enough for a man but made for a woman.
Nike condom: Just do it.
Intel condom: This way in.
This way in your personal life
This way in your system
This way in your software
This way in your private docs
This way out: AMD K7
I disagree with you there. I just upgraded from a P233MMX to a Celeron 366 (o/c 456), and on highly graphical or very long web pages, the browser renders the pages faster. I have a cable modem, so I have noticed the speed increase has been pretty dramatic.
This way in to the processing facility...
(Or am I just being morbid here?)
Every time changing the processor slot desgin ...ha..the processors really get hot after some time..need an extra fan. May be use the slogan "Hot Inside".
P [ ] l
Say this way in
to the man in BLUE
Roswell! Roswell!
This way in to exclusive content
This way in to exclusive web sites
This way in to exclusive software
This way in to listening to MP3s on your pc
This way in to watching DIVX movies on your pc
This way in to closed standards
This way in to 90 percent of the market
This way in to a brave new world
This way in is paved with good inteNTions.
"Honey, it's our honeymoon, come to bed, you can start working from next week."
"No Darling, Iam not working. Iam trying to find a wizard for making Love." Even if you dont know how to do a thing, the wizards will do it for you!!!"
Honey goes cold.
Actually, i guess the PPC's in the RS6k's aren't too bad... I'd still pick out an Alpha or US though...
And if you were referring to the silly chips they put into Mac's then I'm laughing at you right now.
-- Erich
Slashdot reader since 1997
Watch out folks, he/she must be in on a conspiracy ;-)
too
nice little bit of newspeak.
Catchy enough to remember, but with almost no
real meaning behind the words.
quack quack quack
java, shockwave, vrml, dhtml...and other cool stuff lynx can't do
Now that is a stupid thing to say.
Dude get over it the G3 is faster than the pentium. In float and int! DEAL WITH IT.
They forgot to put the "No Exit" sign above the door.
Hmm
I just upgraded my video from at3d 4Mb to Riva TNT w/16Mb. Using a CABLEMODEM operating at 500kbps streaming vids at 300k from musicvideos.com, I have noticed a difference in quality. Would a faster CPU have made a difference? I doubt it....
Say NO to ms software rendering!!!
They forgot the banner that reads "Abandon all Hope, Ye Who Enter Here".
Pentium III, evil inside.
hey Gregg, it's personal, but seriously why?
I can see a rash of installation confusion due to their slogan... especially if they put the slogan on the chip anywhere.
PsyKotyk
That is rediculous. I see you are not racist at least...
sheesh.
FIGHT THE POWER! SAVE THE EMPIRE! DAMN THE MAN!
Its the karate dude doing that high heel kick that does it for me. Wheee... I'm gonna buy one now! :-)
Hey,
Just so you know, better, faster compression generally = more bandwidth. A fast CPU generally enables better, faster compression.
If all communications use some sort of encoding scheme, and the processors that do the encoding are enhanced, doesn't it stand to reason, that systems with better CPUs can concievably make better use of less bandwidth?
Oh hey - waitta second, that's how faster modems work. The digital to analog encoding is more efficient, so I can actually send more over the same line! Oh, and if I compress what I send over that encoding format, I can even send more.
Yeah - the ad campaign sucks. But, using an Intel codec that utilizes MMX sure makes streaming media over a lower bandwidth connection a whole lot better. And - now that they have added KNI, who knows, maybe more improvements are on the way.
So yeah, a faster processor does enhance your web based experience, and can even improve non web based internet experiences.
- Porter Woodward
but you can't get in with a measly kung-fu guy, you need to get a p3 to peek inside!
Were they filtering you?
"tends to"
Do the words "Ruby Ridge" mean anything to you?
Or even "Steve Jackson Games", if you pay no attention to anything outside the computer field?
I think the words "This way in" are for the people installing the cards on motherboards.
Maybe if you install it backwards it turns on the ID feature?
The fifth student just wasn't media savvy enough to die right away instead of lingering in the hospital a day or two before succumbing to his wound(s).
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
Is Baconium the name of that new element 114?
"Dogs don't know it's a celeron."
The important question is whether or not the Celeron is a dog.
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
Ruby Ridge? Feh. If you sell automatic weapons to people, you're gonna get the attention of law enforcement, 'cause selling automatic weapons is against the law. If you shoot at law enforcement people, they're gonna shoot back; actually, the last I heard, the right to shoot back was what all the 2nd amendment people were so excited about preserving . . . I can't see why that right shouldn't extend to ATF goons.
You can argue that selling automatic weapons ought not to be against the law (in fact I myself ain't so sure it oughta be) but that's a different issue from whether or not we should enforce the laws we have.
The Steve Jackson Games thing, on the other hand, was pure dictatorial madness in the grand tradition of J. Edgar Hoover and other great American heroes.
If that's their plan, I think Intel's got a good thing going, baby. :) j/k.
- Wing
- Reap the fires of the soul.
- Harvest the passion of life.
- Wing
- Reap the fires of the soul.
- Harvest the passion of life.
"And we're goin' on a doomsday run, got a ticket to a doomsday run..."
I'm not much of a conspiracy buff, but one look
at Intel's website with it's "This Way In" slogan
and the graphic of a martial artist kicking "His Way In"
doesn't give me any positive vibes.
I mean... what? Does installing the chip mean that
someone can and will come breaking into my home or
office where I have the computer installed?
Will they be able to find out when I'm at home and
when I'm not? Wow!
Conspiracy or no, Intel might want to consider
more positive and comfort/performance inspiring
marketing...
"This Way In" is on it's way out.
- Wing
- Reap the fires of the soul.
- Harvest the passion of life.
- Wing
- Reap the fires of the soul.
- Harvest the passion of life.
I am sick and tired of seeing people being flamed because of bad spelling on Slashdot. The reason being for this is that /. is a forum of opinions on topics pertaining to technical aspects of the computing community, and mostly read by people during little breaks in their day. When I was working, I would take a glance at /. during my coffee breaks, lunch breaks, etc. and when I made my posts, usually they were quick little notes off the top of my head, not having a whole lot of time to compose my thoughts before I wrote them. I didn't have a ton of time to look from gramatical or spelling errors. I believe this is how most people use this site, and most posts are ones that they do off the cuff. Just because my finger slips off one key and onto another, and I'm too busy to go back and correct it doesn't mean that I'm a complete moron (and from the tone of your post, shouldn't be included in the human race). I imagine that there's spelling mistakes in this post, but I don't have the time at the moment to go back and make sure that every last word is spelled right. I have much more important things to do with my time i.e. programming assignments. I make this plea to end the flaming of people that make miniscule spelling error.
These knobheads keeps trying to connect to the ports used by Netbus/BackOrifice on my Linux machine. I've had to resort to using a daemon to log all IPs used and reply to these connections with a message "You have now been logged attempting to access illegally. All logs are forwarded to law enforcement officials and the FBI".
I agree with you an picking your battles wisely, but I have to disagree with you here. The right not vote is just as important as the right to vote. Sometimes you can send just as strong of a message by NOT voting for someone as you can by voting for his/her opponent. Look at how often voter turn-out rates are used as to indicate "support" or a "voter mandate" for some politician or policy. Of course, you must register to show you're not voting. If people only voted for those whom they truely thought should be in office, I wouldn't be surprised if voter turn out dropped drastically, or third, fourth, and fifth party candidates would get sizable chunks of the vote. The whole "it's your civic duty to vote", "if you don't vote, you can't complain", and "I don't want to throw my vote away (on someone I think can't win)" irritates the heck out of me.
Well you can get a New G3 and upgrade it to the G4 later on. The mother board can support multipliers up to 8, so thats 800MHz!
It's far easier to forgive your enemy after you get even with him.
G3 is twice as fast as PII of same speed doing single-precision floating point sums. PII is twice as fast as G3 of same speed doing double-precision floating point sums.
I'm running one now and find it to be far more power the linux needs. MP3s no longer take up much processor time like my old P166 that almost ate every last cycle. The only way I bog it is when compile my kernel (4 minutes) or another program. I'm in no hurry to get a new chip. When I do you can be damn sure it will be a AMD or a DEC Alpha. I'm perm done /w Intel. They have fuct the consumer for the last time as far as I'm concerned. I don't care if those fools wake up and remove the intrusive tech from their chips.
Better latency is often more important than better bandwidth. With 300ms latency on my (and everyone else's) modem, the net is slow as hell with or without good bandwidth.
PIII's suck because it is a PII with a beefed up MMX instruction set. Alough that may be good linux won't support it and most of windows won't support it. Buy AMD and if possible ppc is best. Go IBM
With the G4 coming out soon, I know the computer I'm getting... Photoshop with Altivec acceleration will Rock!
It's far easier to forgive your enemy after you get even with him.
The slogan makes me think of the Intel CEO's rectum after getting b***-f***** by every user's rights organization for the "Processor Serial Number"-tags.
Yeah I'm dirty - but it helps me bear this crap.
If I ever get ornery enough to like H.L.Mencken, thats when you'll find me up on the roof pinning down the neighbors with a deer rifle.
You could try Richard Mitchell (The Underground Grammarian). His humor is not so malicious.
-- thulldud (coming in from work. Yeah, yeah, so everybody is surprised I actually have a job.)
I think "This Way to the Egress" would be a more appropriate slogan. Tack my name up on the Intel PIII boycot list.
In DK we use "blank" votes to keep track of these issues.
Anonymous Coward wrote:
The right not vote is just as important as the right to vote. Sometimes you can send just as strong of a message by NOT voting for someone as you can by voting for his/her opponent. Look at how often voter turn-out rates are used as to indicate "support" or a "voter mandate" for some politician or policy.
Unfortunately, not voting is interpreted as "voter apathy". Voter apathy doesn't send the message "we hate all of you", it sends the message "we don't care what you do". If you want to make it clear that you dislike everyone, get your butt out of bed, go to the voting booth, flip a token lever for some judge or minor official, and register the ballot.
Actively voting for nobody is a far stronger message than passively not voting.
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Open mind, insert foot.
Need Need Dual Dual Processors Processors
It's a funny old letter thing...
Take a look...
What Grove giveth, Gates taketh away.
"What do you mean, invalid parameters? 9000Gigs of RAM and it can't answer a simple question!" -- Earthworm Jim
-----Original Message-----
u miii
From: [Removed in the interests of personal privacy!]
Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 5:57 PM
To: cherra s; andy_grove@intel.com
Subject: RE: PSN Privacy
Well then, I am done doing business with your company. Number of the Beast/Big Brother here we come. AMD here I come.
What happens when a twisted government leader gains control of the system in a Hitler-ish or Stalin-ish way? That is the true issue here. With tagging mechanisms like this, it may become absolutely impossible to break free of the grip of a ruthless, oppressive ruler. Look at the history of government, it is a cyclical pattern that has happened with every government: Either a government is decimated and absorbed by a more powerful government, or the government becomes very successful until that government becomes slothful and controlling, eventually feeding upon it's own citizens until they somehow break free and reform. However, never in the history of mankind has the mere fact of privacy been stripped from the individual. Your company is only looking out for it's short-term gains and not at all for our grandchildren. Very sad to see.
Goodbye.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: supportmgt@mailbox.cps.intel.com
> [mailto:supportmgt@mailbox.cps.intel.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 4:15 PM
> To: [Removed]
> Subject: PSN Privacy
>
>
> 2/1/99
>
> Hello:
>
> Thank you for contacting Intel. A number of users like yourself
> have expressed concerns about the processor
> serial number feature on the Intel® Pentium® lll processor, which
> will be introduced later this quarter.
>
> We recognize that a processor serial number raises privacy
> concerns and we are working to make sure
> those concerns are addressed. We will provide the tools for
> computer users to activate or deactivate the use
> of the processor serial number which we feel is the best way to
> protect computer users while allowing them to benefit from this feature.
>
> For additional information on Intel's privacy policy, please refer to:
> http://support.intel.com/support/processors/penti
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Cherra S.
> Intel® Internet Support
>
> *All brands and trademarks are the property of their respective owners
WTF?!?
Well, a 300a + generic mb + atx case = same $ of k6-2 400
Keeping in mind that the below prices are in Canadian Pesos,
CeleryStick 300A = $139
Generic MB = $175
ATX Case = $89
=======================
Total: $403
K6-2 400 = $287
Last time I checked, $403 != $287. That's about a $100 difference...which you could turn around and invest in another 32Meg of RAM...
Not to mention that the difference in FPU speed isn't a HUGE concern if you spend more time coding than Quake-ing. =)
"What do you mean, invalid parameters? 9000Gigs of RAM and it can't answer a simple question!" -- Earthworm Jim
yeah, that's definitely true of everybody who ever wrote code that ran on windows . . .
bblleeaahh.
i mean, dude, there are idiots everywhere, and there are also cool people everywhere, y'know? good lord, there was a massive slugfest about this just a week or so ago . . .
Tin wafers and Intel's coming
We're finally being cloned...
With NT on servers crashing,
Four dead (servers) in Seattle...
Five dead in Seattle...
Six dead in Seattle...
etc..
etc..
etc..
hehe... no offense to any gays intended... it just fit :-)
It this a protocol "real men (or women of course)" use? ;-)
-martin "going on SSH"
The G3 is wonderfully designed and technically superior chip (RISC) compared to a PII. But considering a PII has to be backwards compatible with the 8086 etc it does a remarkable job and yes it's FPU is much better then a G3. Who cares if the integer performance of the G3 is better. Oh no it going to take me an extra 0.000005 sec to load MS Word. shit I better get a g3. And how much do you pay for a G3 (Apple Mac). for the same money you could buy a completely decked up Dual PII-350 or above (with a screen L)
It would still have trouble catching up.
Its like saying that TNT's are all very well, but I'll be laughing when I get my new SGI Onyx2 InfiniteReality Overkill :-)
Could the PIII ID be detected with TEMPEST monitoring. Would the identifying radio signal
be generated only at startup or continuously?