...because Darwin is not Unix. And while we're at it, Linux isn't Unix either, but getting pretty damn close, in a way that only the die-hard indoctrinated Unix grannies aren't taking it seriously.
Anyone who has ever used Darwin, tried to compile some software on it and looked effortlessly for the X-Server (until noticing that XFree86 must be installed separately in the Form of XDarwin) knows that Steve's claim about OS X being the greatest Unix of all time, is utter bullshit. It's not just no branded Unix, its almost unusable either. For Unix users, that is. And - gasp - Quartz is an even slower dog than X11 has ever been.
I think the old proverb is in full effect here: "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly."
"How many people use Emacs key bindings in non-Emacs editors?"
Oh, pleaaaase. Don't tell me about ease of use in Windows as long as I still can't use vi-like key bindings in the "Word" application.
Whenever I'm forced to write anything in "Word", "i"s and "O"s are scattered around in the text. So this is what people call "intuitive" and "user friendly"? Come on, be serious.
This is sickest thing I've ever come across in my whole life. People (children even!) are suffering and dying from hunger in the world, and this guy wastes his time using sed as a programming platform for 2D action!
1) Calculates dependencies, asks you if you really want to download these 30 MBs of packages. (The required packages along with your requested package.)
2) Downloads all packages in one go.
3) Installs the packages.
4) Packages are left in/var/cache/apt/archives. Keep in Mind that this may fill small/var Filesystem pretty fast.
Once you've spent a few months with Debian you won't touch any other distro again.
"I considered using a DSL line for incoming mail. What happens if the line goes down or my machine crashes? I wanted stability!"
If the DSL goes down, or your machine crashes, your ISP's SMTP server should take care of your inbound mail. Absolutely no problem, as long as both MTAs and your domain's DNS are set up properly.
Those Alternic people have been around for as long as I can remember. All this stuff is quite useless. Why do some people, once they understand DNS operation, feel the urge to offer some alternative thing? Can you imagine 10 additional, non-internic, TLDs from 5 registries, without a centrally maintained root.hints file? Sounds like a bad thing(TM) to me.
Come on. You can't just refer to a 40 Meg tarball withouting saying a single word what this might be about. "BeOS for Linux" doesn't sound very plausible to me in any way.
Please don't simply post a submission like this without a single comment.
When I moved there, in 1990, there were no ISPs and most of the country had never heard of a thing called the internet.
Just to remind you: Same goes for all the rest of the world, including the U.S. This was 1990! The "Web" as we know it hadnt even been invented, and the Internet at that time was almost exclusively available to educational users.
Id bet that even only two years ago, most of any country had never heard about a thing called the internet.
The Mainstream media havent discovered *BSD yet, simple as that. Driven by all the coverage and the "Windows alternative" hype, Linux distributors have done their best to make Linux installable by means of of 5 mouse clicks. They are leaving your disk cluttered with hundreds of packages that you just dont need, running dozens of processes you dont know, and start up in a twisted fashion noone can comprehend. To turn such a Linux box into a respectable server, youll have to work your way through all those SysV-Init scripts, which are being filled with variables from nebulous places, to finally disable the daemons you dont need. When youve done that, a fresh FreeBSD install will look so clean to you, it will instantly turn you into a believer.
Linux may make a nice Workstation, but on the server side, Ive made the change to BSD:
1. Uninstall quake3 using its uninstall script 2. Uninstall q3demo using its uninstall script 3. Reinstall quake3
Q3A ist so damn lousy that it took me one hour just to figure out how to install it. Even worse, the paths on CD and in the install script are messed up somehow (it doesnt look for bin/x86/glibc-something), and I had to build a new CD in order to make tty install (setup.sh) work.:-(
While the game itself might be one of the best things ever for the Linux community, its installation is bad, bad, bad (did I say bad) promotion.:-(
No matter where I look at, and no matter where I listen: "Millennium, Millennium, Millennium, Y2K, Y2K, Y2K, Y2K - We have a problem!" Even serious news magazines here in Germany are going mad about it.
Now, finally,/. joins the chorus.
I was already afraid that you/. editors might not have noticed, that the world is coming to an end, since not every second story is about Y2K.
Thanks for finally figuring that the end is near, and pleeeze, keep us well-informed.
This is about everything I have to say after a few years in this strange business.
Every week I have people coming to me, asking how they can start their small internet business. These people mostly dont know anything about HTML, TCP/IP and cant even spell "URL" correctly.
If you dont already know about routing, co-location, load balancing, databases, security, backup and DNS, and cant afford hiring the people who do, please try something different and learn about all this technology before throwing your own money into it.
Youd be spending nights trying to figure out all this tech stuff, while seeing your money drain away at the same time. Bad thing (tm), IMO.
Its not about "potential" only. The "real work" also has to be done.
Sorry for pooping your party, but Star Office has been out for years. Im happily running 5.0 since early this year, and 5.1 has also been released since then.
Id say this slashdot outline of the article is as much rubbish as the article ("16-year-old programmer") itself.
Two, a clueless newbie will easily get frustrated and say that Linux sucks, giving Microsoft more FUD ammunition
Id say: Leave a clueless user (tm) who has no idea about this whole computing thingie and whos not even willing to read any sort of documentation alone with a blank harddisk and a W98 install CD and guess what he will achieve? Yeah nothing. Right.
Windows has nothing to do with intuition, its only got to do with being used to it since years. Anyone whos grown up on Linux, will consider this an "intuitive" install:
$ tar zxvf tarball.tar.gz $ cd tarball $./configure $ make $ su -c "make install"
What more can I say? Id expect that a company like Red Hat had its Servers co-located at some type of data-processing-center environment and not in their local basement.
Slashdot Mirror
...because Darwin is not Unix. And while we're at it, Linux isn't Unix either, but getting pretty damn close, in a way that only the die-hard indoctrinated Unix grannies aren't taking it seriously.
Anyone who has ever used Darwin, tried to compile some software on it and looked effortlessly for the X-Server (until noticing that XFree86 must be installed separately in the Form of XDarwin) knows that Steve's claim about OS X being the greatest Unix of all time, is utter bullshit. It's not just no branded Unix, its almost unusable either. For Unix users, that is. And - gasp - Quartz is an even slower dog than X11 has ever been.
I think the old proverb is in full effect here: "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly."
"Linux" is not a supplier of Unix-based systems. Period.
Oh, pleaaaase. Don't tell me about ease of use in Windows as long as I still can't use vi-like key bindings in the "Word" application.
Whenever I'm forced to write anything in "Word", "i"s and "O"s are scattered around in the text. So this is what people call "intuitive" and "user friendly"? Come on, be serious.
Yes, there is. It's called Freedom of choice.
This is sickest thing I've ever come across in my whole life. People (children even!) are suffering and dying from hunger in the world, and this guy wastes his time using sed as a programming platform for 2D action!
:-)
Oh my god, how I love it! Pure genius!
1) Calculates dependencies, asks you if you really want to download these 30 MBs of packages. (The required packages along with your requested package.)
/var/cache/apt/archives. Keep in Mind that this may fill small /var Filesystem pretty fast.
2) Downloads all packages in one go.
3) Installs the packages.
4) Packages are left in
Once you've spent a few months with Debian you won't touch any other distro again.
Look at the buttons in the lower right corner of the LCD's case. It's pretty clear to me that this is an IBM LCD.
"I considered using a DSL line for incoming mail. What happens if the line goes down or my machine crashes? I wanted stability!"
If the DSL goes down, or your machine crashes, your ISP's SMTP server should take care of your inbound mail. Absolutely no problem, as long as both MTAs and your domain's DNS are set up properly.
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I don't see a single mentioning of "Windows" in there.
The two cities are 300 miles apart, and LWCE is currently taking place in Frankfurt, where I saw Linus yesterday.
Increased sunspot activity
What's the big deal with this? Drop down the list of recent pages from your back button, select the page you want to go back to, and there you are.
Those Alternic people have been around for as long as I can remember. All this stuff is quite useless. Why do some people, once they understand DNS operation, feel the urge to offer some alternative thing? Can you imagine 10 additional, non-internic, TLDs from 5 registries, without a centrally maintained root.hints file? Sounds like a bad thing(TM) to me.
If it's nowhere on Be's servers, how, why and from where did this guy mirror it?
$ lynx -dump http://www.be.com/products/freebeos/ | grep -i linux
$
Nothing. So what should I read there?
Come on. You can't just refer to a 40 Meg tarball withouting saying a single word what this might be about. "BeOS for Linux" doesn't sound very plausible to me in any way.
Please don't simply post a submission like this without a single comment.
When I moved there, in 1990, there were no ISPs and most of the country had never heard of a thing called the internet.
Just to remind you: Same goes for all the rest of the world, including the U.S. This was 1990! The "Web" as we know it hadnt even been invented, and the Internet at that time was almost exclusively available to educational users.
Id bet that even only two years ago, most of any country had never heard about a thing called the internet.
The Mainstream media havent discovered *BSD yet, simple as that. Driven by all the coverage and the "Windows alternative" hype, Linux distributors have done their best to make Linux installable by means of of 5 mouse clicks. They are leaving your disk cluttered with hundreds of packages that you just dont need, running dozens of processes you dont know, and start up in a twisted fashion noone can comprehend. To turn such a Linux box into a respectable server, youll have to work your way through all those SysV-Init scripts, which are being filled with variables from nebulous places, to finally disable the daemons you dont need. When youve done that, a fresh FreeBSD install will look so clean to you, it will instantly turn you into a believer.
Linux may make a nice Workstation, but on the server side, Ive made the change to BSD:
2. Uninstall q3demo using its uninstall script
3. Reinstall quake3
Q3A ist so damn lousy that it took me one hour just to figure out how to install it. Even worse, the paths on CD and in the install script are messed up somehow (it doesnt look for bin/x86/glibc-something), and I had to build a new CD in order to make tty install (setup.sh) work.
While the game itself might be one of the best things ever for the Linux community, its installation is bad, bad, bad (did I say bad) promotion.
Now, finally, /. joins the chorus.
I was already afraid that you /. editors might not have noticed, that the world is coming to an end, since not every second story is about Y2K.
Thanks for finally figuring that the end is near, and pleeeze, keep us well-informed.
Thanks. -ms
Upload 500Megs of p0rn. Announce URL. Wait.
/. of course. ;-)
Tried this myself 4 years ago on my first own fixed net connection. After a few hours the lines were glowing white hot.
After all, this is what the internet has been invented for: Email and p0rn. And
This is about everything I have to say after a few years in this strange business.
Every week I have people coming to me, asking how they can start their small internet business. These people mostly dont know anything about HTML, TCP/IP and cant even spell "URL" correctly.
If you dont already know about routing, co-location, load balancing, databases, security, backup and DNS, and cant afford hiring the people who do, please try something different and learn about all this technology before throwing your own money into it.
Youd be spending nights trying to figure out all this tech stuff, while seeing your money drain away at the same time. Bad thing (tm), IMO.
Its not about "potential" only. The "real work" also has to be done.
Sorry for pooping your party, but Star Office has been out for years. Im happily running 5.0 since early this year, and 5.1 has also been released since then.
Id say this slashdot outline of the article is as much rubbish as the article ("16-year-old programmer") itself.
Id say: Leave a clueless user (tm) who has no idea about this whole computing thingie and whos not even willing to read any sort of documentation alone with a blank harddisk and a W98 install CD and guess what he will achieve? Yeah nothing. Right.
Windows has nothing to do with intuition, its only got to do with being used to it since years. Anyone whos grown up on Linux, will consider this an "intuitive" install:
$ tar zxvf tarball.tar.gz ./configure
$ cd tarball
$
$ make
$ su -c "make install"
Get the point?
-martin
What more can I say? Id expect that a company like Red Hat had its Servers co-located at some type of data-processing-center environment and not in their local basement.