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Redhat 5.2 2.2-Kernel Update

An anonymous reader "Red Hat has a set of update rpms that are apparently intended to make 5.2 fully compatible with the 2.2 kernels. (I've been using 2.2.1 since it was released with no ill effects anyway...) " I'm posting this just so people stop emailing me and asking. Besides, the rpms seem to be worki

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  1. No Subject Given by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'v installed all the kernel-2.2.1 updates but on reboot I still have kerneld running ?

    and netatalk ( which there seems no redhat-5.2 RPM )

    does not wnat to work with error messages in /var/logs/messages

    Feb 16 23:59:04 student kernel: eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter...
    Feb 17 00:01:40 student sshd[1827]: User root's local password accepted.

    repeated over and over

  2. boopc? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think that the bootpc package in RH-5.2 is compatible with the 2.2 kernel and I see no upgrade package. Does the new dhcpcd package include the boopc functionality?

  3. As an aside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anybody have an idea what has changed between RH 5.1 and RH 5.2 because I used to "kill -9 pppd"
    every 28 minutes to save telephone costs in this part of the world but after I upgraded to RH 5.2 recently, pppd doesn't take ppp0 down with it and I had to add "ifconfig ppp0 down" after "kill -9 pppd" to be able to connect again using ppp?

  4. Where'd the kernel-2.2.1 rpms on rawhide go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anybody know where I can get kernel-2.2.1 rpms?
    I saw them posted on rawhide a week or two ago,
    but now they seem to have disappeared. Hmm...
    maybe I stuffed them on a zip disk?

  5. boopc? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > think bootp has been added to the kernel as a
    > compile-time option... I'm not sure how to
    > configure it, etc., but I suspect this is
    > intended to replace bootpc.

    I hope not! I definitely want to keep user space bootp as an option. Otherwise how would "/etc/rc.d/init.d/inet restart" work correctly?

    I just checked, the initscripts still use bootpc, so I think RedHat just missed this one.

  6. I love RedHat! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm suprised and delighted that RedHat got the 2.2.1 RPMs out so fast. Those guys must work harder than me.;-)

    I just hope the upgrade isn't buggy. From the other posts here it seems that no one has had any big problems going to the new kernel on RedHat 5.2.

  7. Okay with a 3c509 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not doing masquerading, but I do have a fairly unusual
    setup where I'm using a 3c509 for a direct connection to my
    company's network, and a ppp connection via modem to an
    ISP. My machine had RH 5.0 installed, but I'm always updating
    stuff on it (sometimes disastrously!), so I only had a few
    additional RPM's to update from 5.2 to be compatible with the
    new kernel.

    But everything seems to be working quite well with the new
    kernel. I compiled it with the 3c509 support as a module,
    which is modprobe'd at boot time, and it works just as with
    kernel 2.0.32. I'd first check to see if you installed the new
    kernel's modules okay, and then do an "insmod" or "modprobe"
    for the 3c503 module on the command line to see what kind
    of errors you get.

  8. Debian update page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Hello, I've made a page listing what Kernel 2.2 breaks on Debian machines.

    Please take a look if you're upgrading your Debian machine to the new kernel.

    http://www.debian.org/~rcw/2.2/
    --
    Robert Woodcock - rcw@debian.org

  9. Chill - 5.0 is fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't take much to keep Redhat 5.0 up to date (especially
    when you have a T1 line practically to yourself!). There's a
    document that comes with the new kernel that tells you what
    you need, and it involves downloading less than a dozen
    RPM's from the RedHat 5.2 directory on your favorite server.
    I've been using 2.2.1 here, compiled from source, for over a
    week with almost no problems (well, the "w" command doesn't
    display anything anymore). The main difference I see is that
    swapping is much, MUCH faster, and that my disk drive is
    making far less noise.

  10. Hopefully RedHat's ipchains works, their... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    ...ipfwadm rpm didn't work (at least on 5.1 dist). I tried everything I could think of to get masqing to work on 5.1 and it wouldn't.

    I eventually saved the config files that I had slaved over from their ipfwadm 5.1 rpm, then installed an ipfwadm rpm from SuSe, copied the config files back and walla! it started working!

    Ipchains is in the kernel right? Seems that there is little RedHat could do to screw that up.

  11. As an aside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try 'ifdown ppp0'.

  12. netatalk RPMs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    There are plenty of netatalk RPMs around, not the least of which are in the contrib directories of redhat.

    Head over to httpd://www.thehamptons.com/anders/netatalk/ and grab an RPM from there, or participate on the netatlk-admins list, and find out what the latest versions are.

    DEFINITELY make sure to run netatlk+asun-2.1.2...

    HarryZ
    hzink at fizbin.com

  13. Loadlin fails... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Help.. I can boot with Lilo fine, but when I try to use loadlin from DOS I get that same error message. Am I not supposed to be using the bzImage as a DOS boot image? (JICYW I think I have to use Loadlin in order to get my AWE64 configured successfully. That's what I had to do back in RH4.2)

    jogar@bigfoot.com

  14. Another mount/driver problem??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After installing the 2.2.1 rpms (and source) and
    trying to 'mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.2.1.img 2.2.1-0
    the following error is returned:

    mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/loop0
    as a block device
    (maybe 'insmod driver'?)
    can't get a loopback device

    rtfm has produced no change in my results thus far. Suggestions welcome.


  15. I love RedHat! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seeing as how the entire 5.2 release was supposed to be 2.2 kernel-ready from the get go, I wouldn't exactly consider this set of RPMs to have been produced "fast". They were supposed to be in from the beginning, remember?

    Besides, other distros (even OpenLinux) have had 2.2 upgrade packages for a while now. Red Hat is actually a bit late in my opinion.

  16. rtfm some more. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    insmod lo

    that will do it.

  17. oops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i mean

    insmod loop

  18. Has anyone tried this with IP Masquerading? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm ... I heard that a guy remedied the same problem by parameters to the kernel in the lilo.conf file ... specifying the ethernet interface addresses.

  19. Where's the Kernel Itself?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does "and so forth" include running lilo?

    You should always always ALWAYS leave one working kernel listed in lilo.conf so you can boot if you hose something.

  20. ipfwadm in 5.1... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...works like a charm. Are you sure you had forwarding turned on in /etc/sysconfig/network?

  21. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really? I had heard the Soundblaster Live was supposed to be an excellent sound card (well, at least, that's what their PR department says .) What's the difference between the Live and older cards? What's the best sound card for Linux users? (I guess I'm looking for very good MIDI, exceptional digital audio, easy connection to my CD-ROM drive, etc.)

  22. util-linux-2.9-0 woes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think those executables are in the mount package (mount-2.8a-2.i386.rpm) that comes with 5.2.

    -Thom

  23. Woo hoo2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heh, 2 nights ago I updated to 2.0.36-3 to get my silly netcard to work. I knew I shoulda procrastinated a bit more

    -McFLY

  24. SB Live == CRAP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SB Live likened to a WinModem? Fraid you a bit off there. The CPU utilization with a SB Live is the lowest I have ever seen.

  25. Dizzie Red Hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When will Red Hat be stable?
    Will it ever be?
    The win95 of the Linux world.

  26. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Live! should be supported soon. Last I heard, OSS were getting a bit of help from Creative, but there is no time frame yet.

    The Live! is not at all like a "WinModem" and should pose no more of a problem to support than any other new soundcard, assuming that is that they can get enough technical info on the card (which is what has help up support so far).

  27. SB Live == winmodem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I suppose your right in the sense that a winmodem is nothing more than a soundcard. So with the right software, you could probably almost turn the sb live into a modem.

    Now if you meant that in an analogous sense, like real modem is to winmodem as an AEW64 is to a SB live, then I think you're a little confused.

  28. Another mount/driver problem??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But the module should be automaticlly loaded when needed.

  29. other distros by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Maybe the RedHat guys were waiting for it to stabilize a bit before making an "official" upgrade to 2.2 RPM set???

    Those "other" distros were really on the ball getting updated ftpd packages out after the latest exploit.

    If only people understood what security and stability really mean...

  30. More suggestions needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 'insmod loop' try doesn't work. This all seems more serious. dhcp fails during startup
    and removing/adding eth0, restarting kerneld,
    and activating eth0 still produces dhcp failure.
    Print services have also failed.

    I've uninstalled 2.2.1 without any change in
    the above. Something has messed up 2.0.36-3.

    While I'd prefer not to do a rebuild, I'm not
    sure what else to do. More suggestions welcome!

  31. 2.2.1 Works fine...almost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should get the nettools at least--I noticed that the format of /proc/net/dev changed, and netstat is no longer able to correctly parse it.

  32. WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just got an e-mail from OSS 3 days ago saying that Creative STILL HAS NOT GIVEN ANY DOCUMENTS to them. Any ideas why? I hate my Live! card. It works fine in win98. NT is totally unusable due to buggy drivers, and well there are no drivers for Linux. Go figure. I guess that's why I have a triple boot system.

  33. Linux Users, new operating system survey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linux is trailing Windows, Please help Linux win this OS Survey. Do it today! Linux is now ranked number 2 in the survey, and moving on up. Windows is at number 1.

  34. ftpd exploit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you bothered to check, Red Hat had a patched
    version of wu_ftp on updates.redhat.com on the
    same day the exploit was found.

  35. Kernel 2.2.1 and sound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I didn't have the same problem as you, but it was related (sound). I have an old SB16 and sound has always worked as a module through 2.0.36 and 2.2.0. But when I patched up to 2.2.1, suddenly audio (mp3s etc) didn't work. MIDI still worked fine. I made sure the module was getting loaded with the correct irq, ioports, dma, etc but it still didn't work. Then I recompiled 2.2.1 with sound in the kernel instead of as a module and it works great. Go figure. I didn't see anything in the patch that looked like it would have affected this, but then what do I know about kernel hacking? ;-)

    I did have one hard lockup with 2.2.0, and I had been playing mp3s at the time. Who knows, perhaps that was the same thing as what you saw.

  36. /var/log/messages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has anyone else seen this problem(bug) that I am having. Everything in 2.2.1 works fine, but I
    noticed that my /var/log/messages file is totally screwed up now. The part were it logs the LOGINS is really spaced out and all disoriented. Normally it looks like this:
    login[25417]: ROOT LOGIN ON tty4 etc but when I installed 2.2.1 it would look something like this:
    login[25417]: ROOT LOGIN ON tty4
    I mean it's not a big deal or anything, just something to think about.
    Thanks guys.

  37. Loadlin fails... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you upgrade to loadlin 1.6 like the changes files says to?

  38. I had many problems with mod-utils by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until I downloaded the srpms, rebuilt them, and installed the results. I figure your modprobe is fscking up (because It was built against something close to glibc 2.1) and therefore mount can't mount the filesystem because the module to handle it hasn't been placed into memory.

    Or something like that.

  39. Has anyone tried this with IP Masquerading? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    without. But with MediaOne cable modem.
    Tango + kernel 2.2.1 work for me. DHCP client did not work without Tango.

  40. Dizzie Red Hat - talking about uptimes ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to talk about uptimes, heres Westbo Linux User Groups website (486 32MB). Were acuatlly using a lot of things on it (mysql mail ftp http https etc) and it hasnt crashed ONCE(heck i even uppgraded the kernel trough modem last summer ;)

    9:37am up 207 days, 14:16, 5 users

    So, i wouldnt call Redhat unstable (and this is even the "bad" 5.1 distro ...)

    Myrridin

    http://wlug.westbo.se

  41. kill -hup! kill -hup! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NO NO NO!

    You should *never* use kill -9 unless it's absolutly nessassary!

    If you 'man pppd' you'll see that kill -hup is the proper way to hangup!

  42. What is rawhide? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Updates?

  43. Loadlin fails... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh duh, I was trying to load the wrong disk partition. How embarrassing. i thought I checked that. Anyway, I never get a sound initialization string on bootup, hence my /dev/sndstat is always empty... I made sure the IO ports in isapnp.conf were correct. I don't know what else to look for. Is there an updated AWE mini-howto somewhere? Because the one I've seen around a lot refers to old kernels.

    jogar@bigfoot.com

  44. No Subject Given by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    As one who bought 5.1 shortly before 5.2 was released, I'm not particularly pleased that upgrading 5.1 to kernel 2.2 is as difficult as it is. I d/led several .src.tar.gz updates but not one installed :(

    Hopefully a mate of mine is letting me borrow his 5.2 CD tomorrow so then I'll upgrade.

    Pity there's no kernel-2.2 directory in the 5.1 updates area on ftp.redhat.com :(

  45. eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter by William+Aoki · · Score: 1

    Out of curiosity, is eth0 an eepro100 card?

    Does doing `ifconfig eth0 promisc' make the problem go away?

  46. Important points by Enry · · Score: 1

    It looks like it's got ipchains, which I don't think was in the regular disto. Also has updated samba (2.0) in case you want it.
    I've been using 2.2 at home since the release on my 5.2 with no ill effects.

  47. RedHat 5.1 and upgrade implications by gavinhall · · Score: 1

    Posted by skitzo:

    Welp, I have this system which has Red Hat 5.1 installed, and the most upgrading I've done is to take the kernel up a step from 2.0.35 -> 2.0.36. What other shtuff do I gotta do to take it to 2.2? Is there a list of software I hafta download or is it just the RPMS from RH? Thanks...

  48. Dizzie Red Hat by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 1

    5:40pm up 8 days, 51 min, 5 users, load average: 1.26, 1.35, 1.30

    Linux obsidian2 2.2.1 #4 Thu Jan 28 20:28:30 EST 1999 i586 unknown

    running Red Hat 5.2. not to sound arrogant, but the only reason i've had to reboot was because i hooked up a SCSI CD-R drive. also, i run a heavily modified version of Red Hat, with CVS code flying around everywhere..

  49. It's on the mirrors already by ptomblin · · Score: 1

    I was getting some updates last night from my favourite local mirror when I saw this directory there. So stop hammering updates.redhat.com and get thee to thy local mirror!

    --
    The next Cmdr Taco duplicate will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and see it early!
  50. That's what contrib is for by Christopher+Craig · · Score: 1

    contrib.redhat.com contains RPMS submitted my lots of people in order to make up for the deficiency in RPMS supported by RedHat. If you were using Slackware you wouldn't wait for a program to be included in the distribution, you would just go get the source. If even contrib doesn't have an RPM then make one yourself and submit it, that way other people can use your work of compiling it to save them time.

    I've been using RedHat since 4.0 on multiple computers and I have never unintentionally destroyed my libraries with an RPM, not once. Maybe it's because I'm very careful about using --force, or maybe it's because I resist the temptation to just make and install stuff without using RPMs so I don't have noncontrolled files sitting around (except in /usr/local and /opt, which no RPM should touch), but I've never noticed a problem with this.

    Please don't think that I'm an RPM bigot. It definately has it's shortcomings, and they get very noticable, very quickly on a large installation (lots of NFS storage starts making problems with putting way too much on the /usr drive), but I definately prefer RPMs to compiling and installing. I've never looked at the Debian nor the Stampede package management system, so I don't know how good they are comparatively (nor how many packages are available in them). There is no reason to repeat work that someone else has done for you.


  51. Avoid kill -9 by Fastolfe · · Score: 1

    Only use -9 as a last resort. The -9 flag cannot be trapped by the process, which means it can't clean up after itself.

    A simple "kill" will suffice (I believe it sends a TERM(inate) signal by default, which is friendly), and that's what's used on my system to drop the connection. It's worked flawlessly under 5.0 and 5.2 with 2.2.1. Pppd catches the TERM signal and shuts down the connection in a friendly fashion.

    Someone else mentioned "ifdown ppp0". Perhaps that's the "correct" way of doing it; I don't know.

  52. Dizzie Red Hat by Fastolfe · · Score: 1

    By "stable" of course I assumed you meant applications ran on it without problems or library incompatibilities.

    As far as *stability* goes (i.e. crashing), Red Hat's never crashed on me once (when I wasn't using an early 2.1 kernel). Applications that failed to work with glibc were upgraded (the "correct" way to solve this problem), and everything works perfectly now.

  53. While I don't like it, I have to say by BadlandZ · · Score: 3
    While I personally prefer to compile things on my own, I do believe that RPM's for things like a kernel make remote administration much easier for some people (eg multiple servers, some of which have low cpu power despite high bandwidth). Seems that the RPM's are intended to make things more "2.2.x" friendly, but, they don't have a generic 2.2.x kernel in RPM yet. Anyone know why?

    I have rpm'ed a few 2.0.x kernels in for upgrades on older boxes (like a 386 that takes 18 hours to compile a kernel on, but rpm's in in 2 minutes), so I do understand thier value. So, I guess I want to know, will the new rpm's break anything in 2.0.x systems, and if they have rpm's to upgrade the stuff needed for 2.2.x, why don't they have a 2.2.x kernel in .rpm?

    I do applaud Red Hat for so far waiting, and not jumping to release a 6.0 version with 2.2.x kernel. If they can hold just a little longer, they might be able to use glibc 2.1, gnome 1.0, and kernel 2.2.x... If they do widespread testing before distributing it, it might be cool. Of course, this is going to scream "buggy" despite any amount of beta testing, due to the "new-ness" of so many of the parts... But, wooo... come 6.1, it will probably really rock (if they wait like I hope for 6.0).

  54. Getting into rawhide by Bill+Sebok · · Score: 1
    "rawhide a couple of days ago..."?

    I haven't been able to get into rawhide.redhat.com for more than a week. I get "ICMP 13 Unreachable from gateway router.redhat.com (199.183.24.225) for icmp ..." How did you get in?

  55. Dizzie Red Hat by jelwell · · Score: 1

    2:04am up 56 days, 11:19, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

    That's my uptime running redhat 5.2 The only reason that machine has ever gone down was because of power outages.
    Anyways, I think this anonymous coward is probably one of the many people in the linux community that think poorly of redhat because it has made linux easy (yet still stable and secure) enough for even a windows95 user.

    If these people would take the time to examine the redhat distribution you would find a solid distribution of packages.
    Joseph Elwell.

  56. eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter by danny · · Score: 1

    I had this problem when I ran netatalk on
    an EtherExpress Pro 100 network card.
    I fixed it by changing the line
    max_multicast_filter = 64
    (in drivers/net/eepro100.c), to
    max_multicast_filter = 3
    (as suggested by someone on netatalk-admin)
    Now it works fine!
    (Apparently you can also do this by passing
    an argument max_multicast_filter=3 when you
    load the driver module.

    Danny.

    --
    I have written over 900 book reviews
  57. glibc, gnome and the kernel by logicTrAp · · Score: 1

    I believe Redhat has said that 6.0 will definitely have glibc 2.1, gnome 1.0 and a 2.2 kernel in it

  58. can't mount root? by Mickey+Jameson · · Score: 1

    I had that problem as well. It was a very silly and stupid problem. I accidentally made the main ATAPI/IDE function a module because it let me. I was then unable to mount root. So I read the help for that, and it explains that you can't modularize that option if your root filesystem is on an IDE drive. Make it Y, recompile, reboot, and it worked for me. If this is not the problem, can't help ya...
    -mickey

  59. RedHat 5.0 by Shag · · Score: 1

    Actually, it's real easy to get from RedHat 2+
    to RedHat 5.2... I've been running 5.1 on my
    laptop for a while (after running 4.2 and maybe
    5.0), and just upgraded to 5.2.

    I'd tended toward complete "clean" reinstalls,
    since I was upgrading the drive, repartitioning,
    or things like that, but the hardware end of
    things is now pretty stable... okay, VERY stable,
    so I tried the "Upgrade" function. I basically
    told the laptop what its IP address was, and
    where the FTP server was, and went and worked
    on other stuff for an hour, and wham-o, I've
    got a 5.2 system.

    I'm a little more wary of dropping kernel RPM's
    in, but I might try it while I'm at it... :)

    --
    Village idiot in some extremely smart villages.
  60. Woo hoo! by emag · · Score: 1

    Funny how just last night I started an FTP of kernel 2.2.1...

    On a related note, can anyone give a brief synopsis of what the patches @ www.kerneli.org add to the kernel?

    --
    "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." --H.L. Mencken
  61. RedHat 5.0 by EngrBohn · · Score: 1

    Any word on whether the RPMs are sufficient to bring RH 5.0 up to speed? I rather expect they would be, but I'd prefer to hear from someone "in the know."
    Thanks, cb

    --
    cb
    Oooh! What does this button do!?
  62. problems? by wren · · Score: 2

    (d'oh! previous attempt got munged)

    Problems running 2.2 on RH5.2? Buh? I never had a wink of a problem...well, other than needing to hypermodularize everything. Such a vast range of support offered that it's tempting to dig up old hardware and spider it off of my workstation, just to watch it run for the first time in years. :)

  63. util-linux-2.9-0 woes by Spoke · · Score: 1

    I bet that the executables are in different directories. Check /usr/bin and /usr/sbin. If they're there, either move/copy/symlink them to where they are expected to be.

    -Dave

  64. Dizzie Red Hat by Valpis · · Score: 1
    11:54pm up 168 days, 13:40, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.04, 0.01

    This is my RedHat5.1 (with 2.0.35), quite stable I think...

    --
    who shot the cat in the hat to experiment is insane
  65. Kernel 2.2.1 by Lothar · · Score: 1

    Anyone who has experienced problems with the sound card on kernel 2.2.0 & 2.2.1?

    I have the most odd problem. The sound card (SBAWE32) works fine as long as I either use my tv-card or play cd music. However when I really start using to soundcard (e.g playing mp3) then the whole computer crashes and the only thing to do is to press the reset button. This is quite annoying because it means no mp3...buhuuu!
    (There are no memory/irq conflicts)

    Someone told me that there was a bug somewhere in the kernel soundblaster code which (one some computers) caused the soundcard to generate thousands of interrupt which caused the processor to crash. Anyone know if this is true - or if there are some other explanation for this?

    Just as a final comment. There were no problems whatsoever on kernel 2.0.34. From 2.0.36 they started to appear.

    I know this is a bit off topic..:)

  66. 2.2.1 Kernel and GLibC by sgifford · · Score: 1

    I couldn't get anything to compile with my 2.2.1
    kernel until I updated my C library to the latest
    GLibC. When I did that, StarOffice stopped working, and I had some other miscellaneous problems. These are all known problems, I believe, but does anybody have any workarounds? Anybody got 2.2.1 working (and stuff compiling) with libc 2.0.7, or have a workaround to make StarOffice work with the new GLibC?

    Thanks for any pointers,

    -----Scott.

  67. Easy Way Out by Mooset · · Score: 1

    Once upon a time, after getting fed up with my first distribution (slack 3.3 -- so maybe I am a youngin'!), I switched over to RH5.1 thinking RPMs would make my life generally easier. After a few months, I have come to realize, they are a PAIN IN THE POSTERIOR. I have nothing against the use of RPMs for some things, but if you can upgrade your kernel without RPMs then you should probally learn to upgrade its required programs without RPMs too. Not that RPMs don't work just fine most of the time, but it is a pain having to wait on RedHat to release seemingly vital components a few weeks after the new kernel is out. Plus, using precompiled binaries is sometimes a risky situation. (Lord knows how many times I destroyed my dynamically linked libraries with RPMs before weening myself off of them...)

  68. It's still Redhat by Raptor+CK · · Score: 1

    I'm almost happy about this, being a redhat user. a redhat 5.1 user... argh... I tried to run an ftp install/upgrade, and it wouldn't work, as always. Why is that? I don't know.
    So, I'll be waiting for 6.0 and upgrade from there, since there's no way I'm going to buy the 5.2 CD.

    --
    Raptor
    "Procrastination is great. It gives me a lot more time to do things that I'm never going to do."
  69. util-linux-2.9-0 woes by beej69 · · Score: 1

    anybody notice that the new util-linux is missing /bin/mount, umount, swapon, and swapoff?

    i was running util-linux-rhcn-2.9h-1 and made the mistake of just uninstalling it and installing the new one. now i can't get past single user mode because i have no mount. what's the easiest way out of this predicament (you can tell i'm no expert)?

    tia,
    marc

  70. Samba problem w/ 2.2.1 upgraded...? by G+Money · · Score: 1

    I get the same problem between a 2.2.1 box running 2.0.0 and a 2.0.36 running 1.9. something. The older version mounts 2.2.0 fine but not vice versa. No matter which version of samba I'm running under kernel 2.2.1, I can't mount samba shares (although I can mount windows shares).

  71. Samba 2.0.0? by Snotboble_ · · Score: 1

    Ahum.. Wsn't it something like the Samba team tried to fix a not-too-lethal bug from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1 and ended up with an even more lethal bug, hence "brown paper bag release" 2.0.2 ?

    Perhaps you might want to hold on a bit concerning the Samba upgrade from these RPM's..?

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  72. RedHat 5.0 by Snotboble_ · · Score: 1

    At least initscripts can't be upgraded; I tried to upgrade my 5.1 and it said 'redhat-release =5.1 conflicts with initscripts-yaddayaddayadda'.

    As for the rest; I guess they can. Try it out - it'll tell ya it it won't cut it.

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  73. RedHat 5.0 by Snotboble_ · · Score: 1

    It's no big issue keeping a 5.0 up to speed - upgrading the RPMS as necessary will keep it alive & happy for a long time (I'm running 5.0 on my workserver at home, but with _lots_ of rpm upgrades).

    I would like to upgrade to a 'native' 5.2 (or 6.0 when it's there), but there's just too darn much reconfiguration for me to care for that on that particular machine :)

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  74. RH 5.2 Sparc Linux 2.2 kernels? by generic · · Score: 1

    has anyone tested the 2.2 kernel for linux sparc?
    Last time It wouldnt compile because of some syntax problems.

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  75. Where's the Kernel Itself?? by Robotech_Master · · Score: 1

    What I was hoping to find here would be RPMs of the kernel itself. I installed all the RPMs from the tango project, then tried make menuconfig and so forth with 2.2.1, and when I rebooted, my system wouldn't even boot...and when I tried to go back to the old kernel, I found it had munged my modules directory somehow to the point where I had to do a full reinstall before I could get back into 2.0.36!

    I really would like to upgrade, so I can maybe get my sound card working (it's a SB Live), but I've never had any success with a kernel upgrade any time I've tried...if anyone can help me, please let me know?

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  76. 2.2.1 Works fine by Agnomen · · Score: 1

    Are these rpms required? I am running 2.2.1 on a number of RedHat 5.2 boxes with no problems whatsoever. Are there any docs that describe exactly what these rpms are supposed to do? I don't like the idea of simply updating things with no indication of what the update is supposed to do (other than the fact that the filename references the program being updated)

  77. Has anyone tried this with IP Masquerading? by Raul+Acevedo · · Score: 1

    I haven't upgraded to 2.2, but I did notice that in the SRPMS ftp directory, there is an update to dhcpcd. You might want to try upgrading that, and probably the rest of the packages there too.
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  78. Dizzie Red Hat by Lukey+Boy · · Score: 1

    Though I don't have as impressive uptimes as the previous person (mine is only 27 days), I can tell you that I've used Windows 98 for the past three hours, and I've had to reboot FOUR times! I've never had my Linux box tell me to reboot, and the only times I do are when I rebuild and reinstall the kernel. If I change simple network or multimedia settings under Windows it forces me to restart everything, which even on a P2-300 takes forever.

    Linux on my old P-90 may take a long time to boot up, but I only have to do it once a month.

  79. Has anyone tried this with IP Masquerading? by GOD_ALMIGHTY · · Score: 1

    I have a RedHat 5.0 box IP Masquerading my DHCP cable modem to several Windoze boxes. It uses 2 3Com 3C503 combos. I updated everything on the box to RedHat 5.2 using RPMS and then used the Russian Tango RPMS that were posted here last week and compiled 2.2.1 from kernel.org. Everything seemed to work fine until it tried to find eth1. It gave some errors about being unable to find the module (which is the same as eth0) ... I backed out to 2.0.36 from RedHat 5.2. Has anyone seen anything similar to this?

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  80. Samba problem w/ 2.2.1 upgraded...? by Cyberfox · · Score: 1

    Greetings,
    When 2.2.1 came out I'd JUST installed my first post 0.12 version of Linux off of a RedHat 5.2 CD. So I followed the directions, got all the necessary upgrades as per the upgrade pages, recompiled the kernel, upgraded everything to a new glibc, etc., etc... And Samba stopped working.

    I had gotten it configured and working perfectly under the stock RH5.2 config, my home NT box was seeing itself as part of the Linux machines network, the two were mounting each other in a veritable orgy of internetworking, and all was right with the internal net.

    Now I get a mount version error...? (Says it needs Mount version 6 or something? Linux box is at home, I'm at work.) I upgraded to Samba 2.0.2 and it didn't fix it. My *GUESS* is that something changed in an internal version number in the kernel and something of mine didn't get upgraded... (OR the default 'make install' type command for Samba 2.0.2 doesn't install into the same spot as the RH5.2 rpms...!)

    Any clues from the clueful slashdotters? For what it's worth, I can use the SMBFTP-type program to connect between them and transfer files, but that's just UnPleasant compared to transparent file communication.

    Thanks muchly!

    Cyberfox

    p.s. To those who would say 'Ditch NT, go to Linux only!' Yes, I need NT at home. How ELSE can I develop Java 1.2 applications right now...? C'mon Blackdown, get on the case! If I had a 1.2 JVM, I'd be that hair away from being all Linux.

  81. 2.2.1 Works fine (Except Samba!) by Cyberfox · · Score: 1

    Greetings,
    D'oh! My problem exactly! Please tell me if you find a solution to that... Using the ftp-ish Samba client to transfer files bites! (Geez, you'd think they'd at LEAST include 'readline' support in it!)

    Cyberfox

  82. Really? by Wanker · · Score: 1

    Summary: Soundblaster Live does not work in Linux

    I accidently bought an SB Live since I'd grown so used to Linux supporting most common PC hardware. Mistake.

    The last I heard (and I can't recall the source, so take this with a large grain of salt...) was that Creative Labs wasn't releasing the device specification right away.

    The OSS folks claimed 4Q99 support when I tried to install the eval version of OSS.

    Since this was a bit longer than I wanted to wait, I went out and purchased a Sound Blaster PCI128, which works great with the es1370 driver included with the 2.2.1 kernel. I just had to hack the /etc/conf.modules a bit to get it to autoload properly.

    Given Creative Labs' spotty history of support for Linux, I'm strongly tempted to abandon my 8-year-old brand loyalty. I'll have to see how the Live support comes.

  83. Where's the Kernel Itself?? by Wanker · · Score: 1

    You learned your lesson the same way I did. I always compile at least one monolithic (no modules) kernel and keep it in lilo.conf forever. That way my system will be bootable even if I hose up my modules. Again. ;->

  84. RedHat 5.2 and kernel 2.2.1 by Tom+Bombadill · · Score: 1

    I have been running the two together for a week or so with no problems at all. No tweaks, no problems or esoteric reconfiguring whatsoever. I will download the RPMs anywho as it prolly won't hurt.

  85. Easy Way Out by gr0mblE · · Score: 1

    agreed - indiscriminate use of rpm can hose things but I don't consider that rpm's fault. Like any tool it needs to be used properly.

    I see more danger in mixing tarball-compiled stuff in the filesystem and not respecting the proper guidelines: non-rpm stuff should be installed under /usr/local. (Rpms will not install there unless they have been created by someone who doesn't follow the rules) The main reason for this is because rpm has no knowledge of it's existance. Hence it can be easily clobbered by a package...

    For what it's worth, I am a big proponent of source rpms - you can upgrade them fairly painlessly in most cases, they can be built on the target system, and they are a neat way to distribute source.

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  86. can't mount root? by David_Reno · · Score: 1

    I upgraded 5.2 with all packages suggested on www.linuxhq.com. After recompiling kernel 2.2.1 I get VFS error message "can't mount root filesystem". Has anyone else had this problem?

  87. Kernel 2.2.1 by The+God+of+Duct+Tape · · Score: 1

    I had a similar problem. In my case, when I played mp3's, my SCSI CD-R drive went crazy. It turns out there was a memory conflict between my Plug 'n' Pray SB64 and my ethernet card (don't ask me how my CD-R drive got envolved, I don't really have any idea). Anyway, I too was absolutely certain that there were no io/irq conflicts, until I logged in at console and tried using mpg123 (I think I actually logged in as root), and I got this bizarre console message indicating that there was a problem. Anyway, you might want to double and triple check for io conflicts. Note I had the same problem under both '95 and NT at one point or another.

  88. Kernel 2.2.1 and soundcard by W6BI · · Score: 1

    I BELIEVE I read on Kernel Traffic that they'd identified this as a problem, and had a fix in 2.2.2pre4.

    Hope that helps..

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