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Email Flood Forces FDIC to Drop US Bank Plan

slambo writes "The New York Times is reporting today that a flood of emails caused the FDIC to drop a proposal for banks to monitor transactions over a long term. While it's not quite a /. effect, government is learning of the power of email - they aren't used to getting such an overwhelming response from such a wide swath of the US. (NYT requires a registration to view the article, but registration is free). "

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  1. FDIC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    We owe this one to the Libertarian party. Thier website, http://www.defendyourprivacy.com generated almost 70% of all the emails sent to the FDIC. Lets here it for freedom!

    P.S. I like the anonymous coward thing. Too bad im not stupid enough to give away my information to every website under the sun.

  2. More info on KYC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    Know Your Customer was discussed on the USTP (www.ustaxpayers.org) mailing list. Here's a blurb from the 3/5/99 mailing:


    Update: FDIC "Know Your Customer"

    Comments to the FDIC on "Know Your Customer" rule now total over a
    140,000! Law enforcement is coming out in opposition. Law enforcement
    is mobilizing against KYC. An article appeared in the Peninsula Daily
    News on Feb. 14th, "Bank on More Government Intrusion with FDIC rule".

    Even Steve Forbes has come out opposing KYC. Read his comments at:
    http://www.forbes.com/forbes/99/0308/6305031a.ht m

    Also, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, one of the four
    government agencies supporting KYC, announced this morning at a
    Committee on the Judiciary, Subcommittee on Commerical and
    Administrative Law, that it is now backing down and will not move
    forward on KYC.

    The support has been encouraging for the defeat of KYC, which has helped
    Congressmen Ron Paul (R-TX) and Tom Campbell (R-CA). They introduced an
    amendment today in the House Banking Committee to stop bank spying. The
    committee has an opportunity to vote on this amendment on the markup of
    HR 10 today.

    The Text of the amendment states:
    "(2) LIMIT ON AGENCY AUTHORITY.?No provision of this Act or any other
    provision of Federal Law may be construed as requiring any insured
    depository institution or any institution-affiliated party to monitor
    the legality of the transaction activities or customers."

    The amendment's major objective is to end the REQUIREMENT of having
    banks spy on their customers. This means that it does not stop a bank
    from volunteering to adhere to KYC. At the same time, law enforcement
    is still permitted to obtain information with a warrant.

    One of today's witnesses against KYC was Solveig Singleton - Lawyer,
    Cato Institute. The following is from her testimony:

    "The FDIC's "Know Your Customer" proposal is inconsistent with
    declarations made by the FTC, the Commerce Department, and by Vice
    President Al Gore on American's privacy rights. Government-supported
    programs like "Know Your Customer" pose a unique threat to human rights,
    because government alone has the power or arrest and prosecution, and to
    demand asset forfeitures.

    * The "Know Your Customer" proposal fosters mistrust and resentment of
    government, particularly among immigrants and minorit y groups.

    * The proposal sidesteps the Fourth Amendment.

    * "Know Your Customer" will not make our streets or banks safer.

    * "Know Your Customer" eerily recalls Communist China, where
    neighborhood committees of retired communist party members reported on
    their neighbors.

    Abuses of information collected by government in the past show that
    government will not observe safeguards intended to prevent the abuse of
    the power to collect information."

  3. MIS Issues? by bunco · · Score: 2


    This reminds me of the whitehouse.gov e-mail system during the Lewinsky scandal. They were using NT/Exchange to handle all the mail. Naturally, the system failed. Where do these major corporate entities get their consultants? "Hi.. MCSE 'eh? You're hired!".

    I'm sure a couple of Sun HPC 450's would handle every bit of e-mail they get thrown at them. A word to any government officials... don't experiment with MS products.

  4. Good by maynard · · Score: 2

    Good. Government agencies shouldn't force collusion with private industry in order to snoop on private citizens. Maybe this is one of a few examples of the 'net providing enough 'communication glue' among citizens to organize and act against what amounts to a financial tyranny.

  5. NYT Registration How-To Redux by Stormbringer · · Score: 2

    Time to remind everybody and/or point out to the
    newcomers that "cypherpunks/cypherpunks" works
    just fine for login/password on the NYT site.
    Just remember to clean your cookies afterwards
    if you're into being paranoid/careful.

    stormr
    --
    GPL Win32 UNDER RICO!! Let some REAL programmers fix it!

  6. random thoughts by kevin+lyda · · Score: 2

    first a few kudos to the gov't. first, they listened. that's nice, but not really surprising. there are many people in gov't who actually do believe it's important to serve the people. the big point is that they appear to have listened intelligently.

    huh?

    many right-wing organisations in the us set up phone banks - even using mobile phones at rallies. so they swamp congress members with "grassroots" support. email being so easily forged could easily lead to a similar situation. currently spammers use address lists for recipients, but what if some policy organisation used such lists to fill in To: fields?

    one of the fdic people noted that the email messages were unique - not computer generated. that's an important thing for gov't people to notice. smart, i hope they all pay attention as much.

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  7. It's about time! by jht · · Score: 3

    Finally, the government listened to people and stopped a plan that was both silly and dangerous. If only they'd get it straight on crypto, too... Unfortunately, decisions like this one are rare - and they'll probably try to pull it off again, but sneakier, once the uproar dies down and we're done patting ourselves on the back. What, me cynical? Personally, I think for every new law or regulation they pass, governments should be forced to repeal an old one.

    Number two on the oxymoron list: "We're from the government, and we're here to help"

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    -- Josh Turiel
    "2. Do not eat iPod Shuffle."