Chaos Communication Camp 1999
Dirk Wendt writes "the chaos computer club is organizing a three-day hacking open air event for nerds, hackers and phreaks from all over the world. this thing is pretty much in the tradition of HEU and HIP, if you remember those.
the camp will take place from august 6th to august 8th, 1999. on a field near berlin, germany. we will provide the infrastructure for a complete and satisfying hacking experience: electricity and ethernet for every tent and on-site facilities for eating and drinking.
there will be tents to discuss and hack and a lake along the field invites you to relax. there will be a true high-speed connection to the internet for the whole campnet network. you can bring your computer equipment to the camp site and hook it up to the campnet network and the internet.
this is going to be fun! " For more information, check out the camp site.
im into bondage ehehe
... would be caught dead at an event like this.
the german intelligence community has plenty of suspected 'blood' on their hands.
remember that at least 3 former chaos members have turned up as 'suicide victims'.
>the eclipse on August 11th, which goes right across the center of Europe
Is Berlin too far North to see it?
If I can get the time off work, I will stay in Germany to see the eclipse before going back to the UK.
We stayed at the HIP campsite for two days after it finished and helped to clear up. WE didn't want to go home.
It cost me about 195 pounds for a return flight from Newcastle to go to the Chaos Communication Congress between Christmas and new year.
Say another 15 on bus/train in Berlin.
I booked about 5 days before going.
If you want to go on the ferry then book
a seat/cabin NOW! You will find the ferrys
are full by July.
Electrosmith
Let's add Donald and Maxim, and we're at four.
Maxim actually died from cancer, but he was
nevertheless one of the most brilliant hackers
in the german scene those days.
Donald was reported to have died in a car accident. He was the only person in that car.
around 600-800 bucks i should think.
GenCon is the largest gaming convention in the U.S.
Too bad it's run by Andon now. Any truth to the rumor that they are folding?
You could get a job, sell your body or whatever. In Singapore which is an expensive country to inhabit, to provide a better education for their kids in terms of extra tutoring, poor parents will work menial jobs or even sell their bodies, hoping that their children will become qualified.
My guitar teacher came from a poor Malay family, father was a drunkard, left the family penniless, and because his family couldn't afford the extra tutoring (there was only 1 breadwinner in the household) was thrown out of school at the age of 9 for not doing his homework satisfactorily. His uncle taught him flamenco guitar. He then went on to play in nightclubs until his late twenties. He managed to get a loan from some Singaporean businessmen (at a high rate of interest naturally) to do a BA in Music. Then went on to MA and a professional teaching qualification. Now in his mid thirties, he gets paid £100,000 p.a. in Singapore, to teach Musicology and Ethnomusicology. In Britain for doing the same job he was getting paid £30K. What a joke!
In conclusion if you can't get a job, get a loan.
Regards,
saras
Get yourself a cheap ferry ticket to Calais or Oostende, then get a train from there to Berlin.
If you are on a youth fare and book now, it should be pretty cheap. Shop around. Check the web a lot.
I looked at some of the newspaper articles after Hip97 and it seemed ok to me. Most people treated HIP as an opportunity to play with computers, talk technical stuff with likeminded people and party in the sun. Everyone was pleasant and in a good mood. I think the press picked up on that.
My activitys got a mention (two words) in a the
regional Dutch paper.
There was a piece in New Scientist months
before publicising it, making a joke of the instruction to bring as much puter gear as you could carry with a cartoon of someone sitting in the rain buring a monitor on a campfire.
Electrosmith
Wow, ethernet connectivity, sounds more organized
than a million $ venued CeBIT, which had a crap
internet connection per booth paying $40000000000000000000000000000
>no genuine hacker would be caought dead at an event like this
I assume that in your mind "genuine hacker"=="hollywood elite superhacker with magic sytem cracking powers". If so I don't think the non-presence of them will make a huge difference.
I plan to jump in the Lake, talk to new people, drink high-caffine cola until my hands shake, surf the net at high speed, go to some interesting lectures and have fun.
Kids! Hacking the Pentagon is not going to make you rich or happily famous! This is real life not TV!
>at least 3 former chaos members have turned up as 'suicide victims'
What do you know that I don't? I know of two in 15 years. Considering that over a thousand people turned up at the CCC christmas bash, many young males, I am not convinced its very far off the normal suscide rate.
Karl Koch (Hagbard) was (if you believe the film
'23', the CCC dispute its accuracy) off his head on drugs and obsessed with the 'illumanati' to the point of paranoia.
>the german intelligence community
I think they are about sixth on the list of conspiracy theorys about Tron's death.
Tron was an excellent engineer and a dedicated
pay-tv cracker. Germany has a pacifist/green
government. I don't think they would like
their spooks getting rid of subversives.
Sounds good that the press will be kept under control. I've had my picture published before and I don't like it.
:-)
But I was talking about about how hackers at these events test their powers at hacking the news media. Such as showing a satellite tracking program with cool looking graphics on your screen, then telneting to a friends machine and entering some pre-set commands, and then watching the satellite tracks go all over the screen. Then you end up with a reporter who has just seen with his own eyes that a communications satellite was sent off course. Not that reporters have ever heard of canned demos
Someone will convince some naive reporters about something, and it will be big press for about a week afterwards, until the denials and the facts catch up with them. By then, we are all home safely.
Hack On!
If this is a youth camp about 30 kms south of Berlin, I know the place. It will be pretty cool.
:-)
Right after that is the eclipse on August 11th, which goes right across the center of Europe. I'll be in Luxembourg to see it.
Now I know what I'll be doing with the rest of my limited vacation.
Does anyone remember the Galactic Hackers Party in Amsterdam? Now I'm really dating myself
Hack On!
We will have rules for the press that prevent the camp from becoming an stupid media event. The camp is for hackers and not for media. That is the basic rule and it will be enforced. The exact details for the press regulations are beeing worked on these days and will be posted soon.
You can come and expect not to be filmed, photographed or interviewed if you dont want to.
Frank
(frank@ccc.de)
You'll have to grep around on the web and find some sites with the footprint of the eclipse. I think you only see about 40% - 50% coverage up in Berlin. But that is cool enough.
As someone else pointed out, the main event is mostly people sitting around talking, and not much goes on. Thats true. The best hacking & phreaking and exchange of details goes on when people break away from the camp and go off somewhere the security forces aren't watching. And the several days afterwards when the suits assume its all over.
Now I have to decide if I am showing up with my laptop or do I show up with no hardware at all. A few years ago I "lost" my laptop by looking away for a moment. Its been the only down point in more than a dozen events.
There's a buffer overflow exploit in all versions of tentd up to 1.2.18
We get villified every year. Lots of people like to make outrageous statements to the press, just to see what actually gets printed without being verified. Its called Press Hacking.
:-) After the hijacked spy satellite and the melissa virus, we'll have to get very creative to top those stories. Get your thinking caps on.
But that doesn't stop us, it just encourages us.
Here's hoping this year brings tons of press to the event
Tents, Rain, Electrical Equipment
Anyone who has ever camped before in the rain is well aware of this. Tents only keep out about 80% of the rain. The rest is enough to make everone's lives miserable. Add to this enough electricity to power a small town, and you have the makings of a shockingly good time.
I'd like to go though!
I was at the HIP and found it to be a great time. I didn't followed many of the speakings and workshops, but met friendly people and had many fun. So i will not miss the CCC camp, and you shouldn't miss it too, if at all possible. And whats about the weather (risk of rain): Its true, the weather can be a problem in our nice germany :-), but heh, its august, and we will all hope, that it will be hot (maybe not as hot as at hip :-)) and not rainy. bring a plastic bag for your computer, and all will be ok. germany has very high standard electricity rules and normally all is properly earthed, so the risk of a electric shock will be very little to my assumption even when it rains. And i hope it will not rain.
there will be tents to discuss and hack and a lake along the field invites you to relax.
I'm sorry, but how does one hack a tent?
(Sorry, I had to do that.)
...phil
...phil
"For a list of the ways which technology has failed to improve our quality of life, press 3."
Excuse my ignorance, but what's GenCon?
HIP is unbelieveable I hear.. I unfortunatly didnt go 2 years ago.. I was at Beyond Hope in nyc instead.. but my friends who went had a great time... here is my chance to go to europe..
Victoria Palmer - I brake for unix.boys, Windows just breaks. - http://www.escape.com/~juliet
You got to use a knife, it's a handy little
weapon when you want to take a life.
"just hack'n slash!"
(I had to do that too)
I've been on slashdot so long I'm starting to get out of touch with the cool stuff if it ain't on slashdot.
August 6-8? That's Gen Con weekend.
Not to post a pointless comment, but:
yes
How is a poor student like me supposed to get that kind of dough?
I can't imagine anything cooler than being outside on a sunny day, setting up a linux server for a big nasty dedicated pipe while sipping lemon-aid :)
:)
This sounds like such amazing time. I hope the speakers are good
StylishPants.Org - Home of everything that's interesting, and nothing that's not.
Word on the street is that unless Andon gets their shit together they are DONE.
Back when they were independant, they ran some great cons. Problem is, they just weren't ready to grow as fast as WOTC need them to.
They were just a small company, run by a tight group of friends. I don't think any of them knew how much work it would be once they became successful. When success did find them, they just weren't ready for the amount of organization they needed.
When GenCon98 rolled around the combination of poor organization and a new (poorly designed) convention center combined to form a gigantic mass of suckitude.
The failure of GenCon98 really broke their backs. From what I hear, they havn't been the same since, and it has shown in the cons they have run.
Doesn't this sound like just the kind of thing that will be villified by the media?
Thats GEN (Geneva) CON (Convention). It is the annual conference where world governments and humanitarian organizations discuss and ammend the Geneva Convention accords. The accords deal with international law and "honorable" conduct during times of war.
GenCon is usually held in Bern, so sneaking out for a day to attend a hack-fest wouldn't be completely out of the question (but would probably be in poor taste).
... Anyone got any ideas of the price of a return ticket from the UK so I could join in the fun?
:))
(I am on a tight budget
ChrisB RVX Networks - http://www.rvx.net/
Don't think they'll fold, but I heard WOTC were going to get bought out maybe, I wouldn't believe it myself, tho if they did someone would have some nice toys from the boys at tsr too :)
Another event in Germany this summer is
the Linuxbierwanderung. It's now under new
management, and they're threatening to charge
$750 for going, supposedly to provide, inter
alia, Linux instructors. Does this sound like
a rip off to anyone else?