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New Search Engines

An anonymous reader wrote in to say "It seems that there's a new company out there called Fast Search and Transfer which is competing with Inktomi. They have a demo online at www.alltheweb.com and their engine seems to be ultra-fast. News about this is available here. Try out the demo, it is awesome what these guys have done." It is fast, but so far I've not had as good luck searching as with other engines. And the speed is probably largely due to the sparse HTML. But its not bad.

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  1. Re:How could it get so fast? by gavinhall · · Score: 2
    Posted by sirtwist:

    Dammit.

    I just read the article. At 80 million documents, I don't think my assertion is quite as valid.

    Wow!

  2. Not so FAST... by martian · · Score: 4


    As someone else commented, these people wrote the search engine behind ftpsearch.lycos.com. Which is fast. There are a few more reasons, apart from sparse HTML.

    This engine asks for no cookies

    The output is not in a table, so you see the results as they arrive in your browser, without having to wait for the whole table (in lynx it makes no difference :-)

    The load is not very high yet, probably.

    But having seen FTPsearch in action for the last 4-5 years, and having seen it always return results quickly, it wouldn't surprise me if alltheweb stayed fast.

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  3. Fast = FTPSearch, MP3Search et al by hta · · Score: 2

    This technology isn't very new.
    Parts of it at least were developed at the Norwegian Institute of Technology, and used in the search engines FTPSEARCH and MP3Search.
    But it's really nice to see them get the publicity they deserve.

    Harald

  4. Google is still better. by stevenj · · Score: 3
    I don't care how fast the search engine is, if it still returns 10,000 useless links. When are the other search engines going to realize that intelligent relevancy ranking is the single most important feature of a search engine?

    The only search engine I know that does a good job at this is Google. It is so good at finding relevant sites, I don't care if the response time is occasionally a little slow.

    (Google uses a nice algorithm where they gauge the "importance" of a page by how many other sites link to it.)

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  5. Hardware-Based Searching by scottsevertson · · Score: 5

    The specs on the search engine are available at http://web.fast.no/product/search/d et.asp?id=34.

    The press release doesn't exactly scream it out, but the search engine is actually just a little bit of software stuck on top of some pretty neat custom hardware. They call their chip the FAST PMC (Pattern Matching Chip), and their server is just your average (well, sort of average) high end server, with a buttload of those chips stuck on PCI cards.

    The specs on the PMCs are available at http://web.fast.no/product/PMC/det.asp ?id=52.

    FAST claims 100 MB/sec throughput on each chip, and each card has its own RAM (from 8 MB to 2 GB). The chips actually run at 100 mHz each, and even have support for RegEx matching (slightly limited).

    From the specs:
    A typical configuration will contain 4 to 8 plug-in cards per search node, and 16 or 32 chips on each card.


    Overall, I'm pretty impressed - putting search capabilities into hardware is a pretty good idea, especially since so much of a modern processor is geared toward things like Floating Point calculations, which doesn't help text searching at all.


    Scott Severtson
    Software Developer
    Auragen Communications
    scotty@auragen.com

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