There is a book, I forget the name, that has all kinds of pretty pictures, and talks about how to use Linux that ANY windows user should be able to understand (has more pictures, and GUI discriptions than it does words).
I saw it in the bookstore last week, i can't remember the name of it, but it includes Caldera, and it's only about 1/2" thick, 10"x10"????
I remember thinking "I should get this for my mom..." Anyone know what it is?
Win32 Version coming (from .plan file)
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Malc
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[idsoftware.com] Welcome to id Software's Finger Service V1.5!
Name: Graeme Devine Email: zaphod@idsoftware.com Description: Some Guy Project: Last Updated: 05/10/1999 17:54:06 (Central Standard Time) -------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- 5/10/99
IMPORTANT!
You must completely nuke your old Q3TEST install before installing the update. The config files from the old build are BAD voodoo.
You can also type "exec democycle" to watch a bunch of id people play the map.
5/10/99
Q3Test 1.05 is DONE!
New Linux/Mac versions are going up right now, and we're finishing up the installer for the Win32 version.
If all goes well, the Win32 version will follow in a few hours (few == six or so).
Quit whining, there's a reason...
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Malc
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From what I've heard, ID Software deliberately released on non-win32 platforms first. Why? By targeting a platform (Mac and then Linux and finally Win32) with a smaller targer audience they won't get so many duplicated bug reports on the core cross-platform code. It saves them time and effort filtering and logging bugs.
I have RH 6.0 working beautifully with a Matrox G200. I did an "Upgrade" install over 5.2, but a real install might work better. I couldn't get the real install to work (and no I'm not a Unix newbie either). 5.2 works well with a G200 but you need to get the X updates (mini gripe... the FTP installer should give the option of grabbing updates if available).
I got the Quake to work briefly but I realized that I wasn't using GLX, but software only Mesa. Since then I haven't been able to get it to work at all, or any GLU stuff for that matter, although the X server does recognize the GLX extension at startup.
As an aside. Redhat 6.0 is a great upgrade for those of you running 5.2. The 2.2.5 kernel and glibc 2.1 make a noticable difference in speed, (and apparently make Netscape more stable, but this could be a mirage). It's nice to see that a company can issue an upgrade that performs better than the original. Thanks to all the hackers in and out of Redhat that made it happen. (And no, before you flame me, I haven't tried Debian yet, but I've got an empty partition just waiting for it.)
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Quake3:Arena = Q3, Q3 Test = q3test...
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Svartalf
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This is the engine test version of Quake 3:Arena from Id Software. No, it's not a demo. It's a very ROUGH cut of the engine and some frameworks to get a feel for the playability of the game and to do a little showing off of Id's abilitites. If you've got a hot machine, have a 3DfX based display accelerator in your machine (or something suitably OpenGL supporting, more appropriately) you might be interested if you like things Quake...
-- I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
Linux survival guide for Windows users
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Kiwi
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I have the same setup (only I have a voodoo1 instead), and Q3 is quite playable. You just have to go without a few features like high resolutions, curved surfaces, dynamic lighting, etc. Some parts are still a little choppy, but it's not too bad.
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Re:is there a way to make it run in software only?
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Swamp
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You can run it in software mode. I did it today: the results are barely worth the effort, but it has to be done:
This is by no means authoritive (in other words I bodged it but got something working). Get q3test rpm installed and get the Mesa rpm as well. Then run linuxq3test with the command which reads something like "+set libMesa-3.0" (check README for syntax). I got it running at work today, hence the rush job! I'm running Win98 at the moment so I can't give you an accurate syntax...
However, if you don't have hardware acceleration you'll never be able to run q3 properly unless you have ~5,000 MHz machine:)
It is basically a faster voodoo banshee with an extra texture unit.
ID doesn't support glide. They only use OpenGL, which has a library link to the glide library, which handles the hardware side of things.
If you want to bitch about support, do it to Daryll Strauss, or to 3dfx(they have to approve the drivers both legally and for compatibility).
If you read the documentation, all you need is libGL.so, which can be provided with your X server(accelX, metroX, etc), or use the libMesaGlide.so lib, which is and OpenGL implementation in glide.
Well if you can't beat us, join us. Surely you can spare some partition space for linux and Q3test.
(21.7 MB) ftp://128.253.27.92/q3test-1.05-glibc-9.i386.rpmg z
(21.7 MB) ftp://128.253.27.92/q3test-1.05-glibc-9.i386.tar.
(22.2MB) ftp://128.253.27.92/MacQ3Test_1_05.bin
Geez, why waste bandwidth, just get the patch, you losers.
[ Suddenly, Anonymouse Coward notices that this article is about Q3A, not the kernel. ]
Oh. Never mind.
[ Anonymous Coward covers his head in shame and embarrassment. He does wish there was a bzip2 version though. ]
The win32 version is supposedly going to be released around midnight CST.
I saw it in the bookstore last week, i can't remember the name of it, but it includes Caldera, and it's only about 1/2" thick, 10"x10"????
I remember thinking "I should get this for my mom..." Anyone know what it is?
[idsoftware.com]
- -----------------------------
Welcome to id Software's Finger Service V1.5!
Name: Graeme Devine
Email: zaphod@idsoftware.com
Description: Some Guy
Project:
Last Updated: 05/10/1999 17:54:06 (Central Standard Time)
-------------------------------------------------
5/10/99
IMPORTANT!
You must completely nuke your old Q3TEST install before installing the update.
The config files from the old build are BAD voodoo.
You can also type "exec democycle" to watch a bunch of id people play the map.
5/10/99
Q3Test 1.05 is DONE!
New Linux/Mac versions are going up right now, and we're finishing up the installer
for the Win32 version.
If all goes well, the Win32 version will follow in a few hours (few == six or so).
From what I've heard, ID Software deliberately released on non-win32 platforms first. Why? By targeting a platform (Mac and then Linux and finally Win32) with a smaller targer audience they won't get so many duplicated bug reports on the core cross-platform code. It saves them time and effort filtering and logging bugs.
I have RH 6.0 working beautifully with a Matrox G200. I did an "Upgrade" install over 5.2, but a real install might work better. I couldn't get the real install to work (and no I'm not a Unix newbie either). 5.2 works well with a G200 but you need to get the X updates (mini gripe... the FTP installer should give the option of grabbing updates if available).
I got the Quake to work briefly but I realized that I wasn't using GLX, but software only Mesa. Since then I haven't been able to get it to work at all, or any GLU stuff for that matter, although the X server does recognize the GLX extension at startup.
In case you haven't run across it, a good page for getting Quake3 to run with Matrox is at http://www.linuxstart.com/~kva nce/projects/g200.html. And for those that want more G200 info, see http://reality.sgi.com/ri pperda_engr/glx/matrox_stat.html. As I have noted, it hasn't worked for me yet, but it's progressing pretty well.
As an aside. Redhat 6.0 is a great upgrade for those of you running 5.2. The 2.2.5 kernel and glibc 2.1 make a noticable difference in speed, (and apparently make Netscape more stable, but this could be a mirage). It's nice to see that a company can issue an upgrade that performs better than the original. Thanks to all the hackers in and out of Redhat that made it happen. (And no, before you flame me, I haven't tried Debian yet, but I've got an empty partition just waiting for it.)
--
"L'IT c'est moi!"
This is the engine test version of Quake 3:Arena from Id Software. No, it's not a demo. It's a very ROUGH cut of the engine and some frameworks to get a feel for the playability of the game and to do a little showing off of Id's abilitites. If you've got a hot machine, have a 3DfX based display accelerator in your machine (or something suitably OpenGL supporting, more appropriately) you might be interested if you like things Quake...
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
- Sam
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logan
You can run it in software mode. I did it today: the results are barely worth the effort, but it has to be done:
:)
This is by no means authoritive (in other words I bodged it but got something working). Get q3test rpm installed and get the Mesa rpm as well. Then run linuxq3test with the command which reads something like "+set libMesa-3.0" (check README for syntax). I got it running at work today, hence the rush job! I'm running Win98 at the moment so I can't give you an accurate syntax...
However, if you don't have hardware acceleration you'll never be able to run q3 properly unless you have ~5,000 MHz machine
Woah nelly.
It is NOT an overclocked RUSH.
It is basically a faster voodoo banshee with an extra texture unit.
ID doesn't support glide. They only use OpenGL, which has a library link to the glide library, which handles the hardware side of things.
If you want to bitch about support, do it to Daryll Strauss, or to 3dfx(they have to approve the drivers both legally and for compatibility).
If you read the documentation, all you need is libGL.so, which can be provided with your X server(accelX, metroX, etc), or use the libMesaGlide.so lib, which is and OpenGL implementation in glide.
I have the RPM at
http://www.ryans.dhs.org:1430/media
The mirrors didn't have the tarball yet, should be up later.
http://www.ryans.dhs.org
http://www.ryans.dhs.org:1430/media
All versions mirroed!
http://www.ryans.dhs.org
I have all versions of q3test mirrored at
http://www.ryans.dhs.org:1430/media
The server is a pentium 133 with ethernet to the backbone! Expect 50 - 150 KB/s download speeds.
Check the realtime load here.
http://www.ryans.dhs.org