NSI and ICANN Bicker

BlackICE writes "NSI and ICANN are fighting, still. NSI is questioning what authority ICANN really has over them. The agreement with the Commerce Department gives ICANN power over registrars, however 'Amendment 11 is not entirely clear, and that NSI could have jockeyed for language that would put it in a different category from new registrars.' Now it might end up in a long legal battle. "

Comments

You mean we have to give the Internet back?

[EEPROM]

NSI: Uh oh, it looks like the government isn't too happy with our monopoly.

ICANN: The government has appointed us to manage names and numbers. Give us control of the root servers.

NSI: But... aren't you going to open up domain name registration to competition?

ICANN: That's right. We're going to break up your monopoly.

NSI: But then other companies would offer better service for lower prices. How can we survive?

ICANN: Just improve your services as well.

NSI: We don't know how to do that. Don't you dare take control of the Internet from us.

ICANN: That's exactly what we're going to do.

NSI: No! We won't give is back! It's mine! Mine mine mine!

We need an open source/community dns solution

[Masem]

It's apparent that any solution that puts the
core of DNS into the hands of for-profit
companies is going to fail. Furthermore,
situations where DNS naming gets in the way of
corporate goals (see 'aolsearch.com') is
going to be screwed up by any for-profit company,
because they can be bought out.

We need more than .com and .net.

We need a neutral organization that honors the
'first come, first served' principle when it
comes to trademark disputes (as we all know
that a domain name != trademark).

We need cheaper domain registation fees.

We need the main database to be behind a
highly secure and highly private wall so that
info cannot be accessed or sold.

None of these are going to happen with NSI or
ICANN aboard, but there's no way to break
that system up unless an open source or
open community solution was found.
Unfortunately, as the net becomes more and
more commercialized, the ability of such a
solution to be viable drops less and less.

Re:We need an open source/community dns solution

[Masem]

We need a neutral organization that honors the
'first come, first served' principle when it
comes to trademark disputes (as we all know
that a domain name != trademark).

Where have you been? It's always been a first come first served basis. Trademark disputes go through court we don't ban anyone from registering www.whatever-they-want.com

Then why did that person lose aolsearch.com
to AOL, with *no* court action and no
volentary arrangements? (Yes, there's
more to it than just this, but...). NSI
effectively broke first-come, first-served.

And just because everyone else in ICANN is
not NSI, this doesn't mean it can't happen
again as long as the company is for-profit.
Or, least, as long as we are limited to
.com and .net names as well.

(And am I mistaken that 'way back when',
domain names were supposed to be ubiquious
when the HTML/WWW basics were founded, such
that the average Joe would not need to know
site addresses or such, just go through bookmarks
and links? Or is my memory failing here?)

This is the situation...

[joq]

I speak out of dealing with NSI on a daily basis.

Right now I work for register.com one of the "other" registrars, and what it boils down to is NSI being a bunch of jealous monopolizers. For one their service is lousy: Have you ever tried to change your contact info? DNS info? You would know. I'm glad ICANN broke up their monopolization of the registration game not only because I work for a registrar but because it's a sign of the times that things are going forward.

Why should you care?
Simple if you ever go to register a domain, wouldnt you want to have the option of choosing who'd you like to service you? Or... If you needed surgery, why would you HAVE to go to one doctor that someone else says you have to go to? Why couldn't you have the option of going elsewhere? Service is as service does and NSI's sevrice just doesn't cut it.

5 reasons why we're better?

1: We answer the damn phones and provide people with real time service not some second hand " fill-out-the-template-we'll-get-back-to-you-later" template.

2: We allow users who register with us to modify their DNS, Contact info, etc, on the fly, without having to wait for three week confirmations on a template you have to fill out.

3: Customer servive!^#@ We actually are there 7 days a week and pick up the phone and answer e-mails the minute they come in. NSI: don't know I sent an e-mail 2 weeks ago... waiting for a response.

4: There's no harsh feelings towards other registrars. We try to accomodate and help the other registrars with their problems instead of sending them in a loopback. NSI: Gives us the runaround. (don't work with em go against them mentality)

5: (personal reason) We have a cooler name^%$!@#^%$

Anyways... This reverts to the Microsoft trial of
David & Goliath...

Down with the evil empire

My two cents.

Yours truly
J. Oquendo Register.com employee

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