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Amiga announces relationship with Corel
Stephen Williams writes "Amiga has announced that it is working closely
with Corel, to ensure that the next gen Amiga
box has some apps ready for launch when the
hardware is released. The press release is
here. "
Call me a cynic... but honestly... how can they (Amiga) deny it's not just another UNIX distribution now?
For Corel apps to run with minimal porting, it's gotta be pretty DAMN CLOSE...
To heck with Amiga.
(BTW: First post.)
I Eric Thurman, announce my relationship with Catherine Ewald.
As for Corel Linux/Linux apps/Amiga apps. They're all part of the same strategy. Don't you remember that Amiga will be using the Linux kernel? Nada porting problems any more. And their Linux strategy has been fairly consistent all of the way: make it easier to port to Linux (by helping out with Wine, check out all the patches they've submitted the last few months), and suddenly the work of porting has dropped dramatically. And once they have their app, they are a LONG way towards a simple Linux distribution: Take Mandrake, or RedHat, or Debian, or whatever, add the Corel apps, and do some work on putting together a more cohesive environment, and voila, another product.
The importance of this is huge: Microsoft pushed WP off the desktop because of they delivered the OS. By promoting Linux, and now Amiga, and helping add momentum to an already rapidly growing movement, they are pulling the carpet out beneath Microsoft, by taking a page from Microsofts own strategy.
Jim Collas walks into a bar.
Bartender: What will it be Mr. Collas?
Jim: Gin and tonic.
Bartender: One Gin and..
Jim: No, I want a Beer.
Bartender: Okay a Beer.
Jim: Beer? I wanted Vodka.
Jim (thinking to himself): How come I never get a drink and people don't respect Amiga?
It really sounds more and more like the new Amiga will in actuality be a Linux distribution.
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Nobody outside of Amiga knows for sure, but as long as everyone else is speculating, I'll throw in my two cents.
Amiga seems to have pretty ambitious plans for the time frame that they're working in; I seriously doubt that they can get half of what they've announced done by the time they ship. Either that, or their ship date is going to slip badly. I wouldn't be suprised to find the initial release of the Amiga OE to be little more than Linux (probably Debian/Corel) with Workbench hacked on top. I'm sure Amiga loyalists would damn this to hell before they even tried it, but I might like it. :-)
The other possibility is that they've been planning this for a some time, and already have a significant amount of coding done. This seems less likely.
In any case, most of the special features and capabilities the Amiga probably wouldn't be utilized by an office suite, at least not initially. OpenGL 3D dancing paperclips? I hope not! :-)
TedC
TedC
What other big companies are there in Canada that Amiga will team up with next? (QNX, and Corel are known, what else is up there in that frozen wasteland?)
It will be on sale in Duty Free shops to American Tourists, and include a free bottle of Canadian Wiskey, but of course, you can import the Netwinder and Wiskey, but not any Crypto Software.
Yes, this is a troll. I live in North Dakota, and I am SICK of dealing with your damn quarters sneaking into my change and jamming our Coke machines... :P
Perhaps they have aspirations? You hadn't heard about Corel Linux? It'll be developed openly, based on the best distribution currently available (Debian), and made much easier to install.
Looks fine indeed.
A pity about Amiga, but once again, if their marketing ineptitude doesn't kill them their community is going to destroy them. That community just never learns. But then neither does Amiga.
QNX learned their lesson well, though -- that was a BRILLIANTLY timed propaganda piece to force Amiga to reveal just the wrong amount of info at just the wrong time. If QNX had waited, Amiga would have had a complete development environment -- or at least acceptable docs -- ready with the announcement. QNX wouldn't have gotten much publicity, and the Amiga community wouldn't have split.
-Billy
Maybee I'm too old to remember but as I recall there where several WordProcessors available when WordPerfect (from WordPerfect Inc. not Corel) was released. Although WordPerfect was certainly the one that got a lot of attention.
Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think. --Niels Bohr
I thought that the announcement the other week was that the Linux Kernel would be the heart of the new AmigaOS, but the rest of the system would not simply a Linux distribution, but rather Amiga's Operating System libraries, tools, et al.
Now, I'm not much of a developer, but it would seem to me that most of the work in porting to AmigaOs would be to make WP interact with AmigaOS system libraries, not with the Kernel itself, as such it would not resemble "WP for Linux" anymore.
There are one of two things going on here:
1) The PHBs who issue press releases don't understand the technical differences between Kernel and OS.
2) AmigaOS will be just another Linux distro, with nifty Amiga E-theme.
Of all the comments I've ever posted, this is definately one of them
Now is Corel working to create more Linux based apps (PhotoDraw, Paint, blah blah, etc.)? What are they doing that is tied to the Amiga platform? Are they planning on using any of the specialized hardware the new Amigas are supposed to have or what? I mean, it seems like this is something they would have been working on already, but Amiga Inc. is just milking for publicity.
Now, let me say that I am excited about the new Amiga and hope that it does well, _but_ it seems like there's just been a lot of hype recently (and over the years). I've always had a soft spot for Amigas (since my A1000), and I'd love to see them do well, but do they actually have anything going on here?
Harlequin
Finally the secret-frankenstein-51-world-wide-even-around-
corners-nano-alien-sweet-cray-red CPU is leaked.
If it was'nt such an important secret I'd have posted the above sooner. Cheaper, faster, funner!
The great thing is it's better than TransMeta.
...even in caps!
"It's over; it's MP3!"
JoeT
Joe Torre - X - HardwareEngineer @ Amiga Inc & ZapMedia Amiga, AmigaDE, BeOS, Linuxz, QNX, Rebol, Windoze, ZME: So
Great reminder!
If one really wanted Wordperfect, one could run it with UAE on anything.
I think that the OfficeSuite or CorelDraw is gonna make WP5.1 look kinda old.
Even to oldtimers...
"Guess the CPU yet? It's in there!"
JoeT
Joe Torre - X - HardwareEngineer @ Amiga Inc & ZapMedia Amiga, AmigaDE, BeOS, Linuxz, QNX, Rebol, Windoze, ZME: So
Of course, it could also be a bone thrown to the Amiga community after QNX and phase5 announced their own development partnership which sounds like a great big "fuck you" to Amiga Inc.. There are interesting times ahead.
Now, did anyone else notice how amiga.com makes a big deal of the whole Corel "arrangement," yet Corel's site doesn't say squat? Amusing.
-DrPsycho - Coping with reality since 1975
It's hardly a stretch of resources, or a "spreading too thin" to add Amiga support to their lineup. With Amiga using a Linux Kernel, all they'd have to do is dump their Linux product over to the boys at Amiga and let them do a simple port. Problem solved.
-DrPsycho - Coping with reality since 1975
Who do you think you are, Terry c0cksey?
-DrPsycho - Coping with reality since 1975
My last posting was in response to something utterly ridiculous, and now that post is gone... and mine appears in the main "root" thread... completely without any context.
I'm assuming it's because the stupid commentary I was replying to was moderated below my threshold, but it looks damned strange.
-DrPsycho - Coping with reality since 1975
Back on those days, WordPerfect was WordPerfect, and Corel was Corel. Not one and the same.
Besides, I remember when WP came out for the Amiga. Compared to programs like excellence! that were out at the time, it was laughable.
-DrPsycho - Coping with reality since 1975
Canada is corrupting our children, luring them into it's propeitary hardware traps with pretty graphics, and then teaching them dirty words!!
I mean, look at this "amiga" thing! it isn't even a real OS! it's just a linux window manager and a bunch of fart jokes!!
If it's war they want, it's war they'll get!!
-mcc
if you don't get it, don't worry about it.
Irritable, left-wing and possibly humorous bumper stickers and t-shirts
You do not understand. If you think the Amiga is outdated, that's fine, because most of the recent announcements have nothing to do with the Amiga that you remember.
If you think you have already found the Ultimate Perfect OS that will last for the next 1000 years, then I understand why all news will bore you (though I wonder why you bother to read Slashdot at all). On the other hand, if you think there still may be new frontiers, and if you're interested in that sort of thing, then it is foolish to ignore the Amiga-related stuff. The two sides of the Amiga schism that is happening right now, are both composed of people that are fed up with the status quo, and who think that all of today's OSes suck (including the Amiga!). Are you sure you don't want to watch?
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You have forgotten Nortel Networks (formerly Bell Northern Research, Nothern Telecom and just Nortel). They are huge up here AND now down there, since they bought out Bay Networks. So add one of the worlds biggest and best networking and telecomunications companies to the conspiracy and the world may have a highly networked, graphically excellent (ATI), highly supported free (as in speech) Linux based OS/hardware platform.
Yes, soon you will be ours! And then we'll give you socialized medicare whether you want it or not!
All part of the master plan, eh?
(It started with Molsons and ends...?)
HaHaHaHaHaHa!!!! (Manical Laughter, eh)
"Sait porte l'epee..."
Never by hatred has hatred been appeased, only by kindness - the Buddha
Hey man, if I had to sit an look at Mrs. Cowpland all day (and night), I'd probably mumble nothing but gibberish too. If you have'nt seen her, you should. Go to the Ottawa Citizen and do a serch on Cowpland...I will guarrantee lots of pictures of the lovely Mrs. in slinky, barely existant clothes.
If I were married to her, I wouldn't care about much else.
Never by hatred has hatred been appeased, only by kindness - the Buddha
So by next week Deron at SoftLogik should be announcing that the beta version of PageStream 5 for Linux is almost ready and that for just $50 you can get a copy. Of course this time the full version really will be released in just 2 months and this time it will really have all the promised features.
OK, that's very obscure, I know.
Really, I would love to see a port of PageStream to Linux, but I don't want to wait 3 years for it to be finished again.
Great. Without the Debian distro the Amiga ball would wear that red hat. which doesn't look good.
--exa--
But this corel-amiga alliance is older than it looks. The very first 3rd party Word Processor for the Amiga was WordPerfect.
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Clear, Dark Skies
...they've made a deal with ATI to supply video stuff, another big Canadian player.
Any thing is better than star office.
Let me sum up star office.
Windows on top of linux.
Who ever wants to use staroffice needs write
privalages to the staroffice directory.
It has been statistically shown that helmets increase the risk of head injury.
I know Corel has done a lot of "platform agnostic" work getting their apps to run on everything. Perhaps they have aspirations of a Corel OS based on the Amiga OS to give their apps a centerpiece and elevate themselves to true MS competitors, even if they aren't. Seems like everyone but MS is going to a *NIX base nowadays. Wonder why :P
just my blog and pix
Funny how Corel is trying to outbound products, and majorly interact in the development of all those "Alienated" OS'es in the land of the beast.The flirting they had (and they still do have with linux is obvious!) and that they're opening the doors for the Amiga market sure as hell shows one thing... Corel is out get appz market on utcasted OS's no matter what ground! ;)
there is a Deja-Vu in the air... do i smell... *cough* office.
u know what they say... can't win? Move to another terrain... a more slashed and friendly... terrain
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how many downloads does Word Perfect have For linux... ? thats right!(well thats according to download.com... can't say for sure).
anyway just my individual pt. of view... my have the right to agree otherwise...
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So i see the bashing has already begun of Corel
and Amiga and we havent seen one piece of hardware
or software from them both. Why dont you give it
a chance before knocking a company like Amiga
who is at last finally sticking to its promises
for a change?
For all those concerned of why Amiga didnt choose
Linux, they considered Linux way too proprietary
for their needs, and QNX was the obvious choice for
them. Sadly, im one of those who would have like
to have seen Linux on it too, but hey, its just
a pipe dream.
So stop being the bully..and give these two
a chance....maybe something GOOD will come out
of it and Corel will dump Microsoft (a snowballs
chance in hell..but hey, you can dream, right??)