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New Power-of-Two Prefixes?

EngrBohn writes "The August issue of IEEE Spectrum mentions a proposal by the International Electrotechnical Commission to introduce new prefixes for words that indicate powers-of-two (page 18 of the print issue). This would replace kilobytes (kB) with kibibytes (KiB), megabytes (MB) with mebibytes (MiB), gigabytes (gB) with gibibytes (GiB), and so on. The rationale is two-fold. First is to restore the integrity of the SI prefixes to meaning powers-of-ten. Second is to eliminate ambiguity over whether, for example, a megabyte is 10**6 bytes or 2**20 bytes. Think this is a non-issue? I noticed this morning that Iomega's 100MB Zip disks have a 10**8 byte capacity, and Maxtor also considers a megabyte to be 10**6 bytes. "

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  1. Zorkybytes by jd · · Score: 2
    Hey! A Zorkybyte is a well-defined unit!

    The units are:

    1024 Flatheadbytes to 1 Zorkybyte;

    1024 Zorkybytes to 1 Frobozzbyte;

    1024 Frobozzbyte to 1 Infocombyte

    These are understood by every grue under the sun!

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  2. Re:Disk manufacturers... by jcorgan · · Score: 2
    Kikibyte sounds like some Polynesian parrot.

    To a Filipino speaker (Tagalog, anyway), this term would describe a unique form of oral sex.

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  3. Re:Only reason to change is... by jd · · Score: 2
    I've a better idea. I propose that HD manufactuerers give away 200 Gb RAID arrays to everyone on Slashdot, unless they agree to conform to the computer definitions.

    Refusing to hand over the hard drives will be considered compliance with the terms of the agreement. If they -do- hand over the drives, nobody on slashdot is likely to care what convention they use.

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  4. Been a long time coming, I like it by anticypher · · Score: 2

    This has been punted around the industry for a few years now. Read some back issues of the IEEE mags, especially the Technically Speaking column.

    This is a great idea, because it separates the two systems of ^10 and ^2. The only ones who will suffer in the long run are the marketing assholes who like to cheat in their specifications.

    Without a doubt, even if this system is adopted (and it will be, the debate has gone on for years, and is now tilting towards acceptance), it will be another decade or two until it reaches widespread use. But for a while, it will hilight the differences between leading edge geeks who like change, and unimaginative nerds who like things to stay the same (640 Kbytes is enough memory for anyone for ever).

    The only thing I would also like to see is some larger and smaller values, into the ranges of 2^-100 and 2^100 or even further. How much space will there be if the other story on 3D holographic storage turns out to be the next great thing? I would love to have a credit card sized 2^100 bytes of information, could keep all the world's pr0n and MP3s on it :-)

    the AC

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  5. Re:Disk manufacturers... by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

    Very simple, very logical, and very consistant with the spirit of the original meanings.

    The hard disk industry has been around for decades longer than the PC industry. The metric system has been around since the French revolution. The prefixes are from a language that's millenia old. Now, tell me again how hard disk manufacturers are being inconsistent with the original meanings?

  6. Re:Pander to clueless users? Relate to common sens by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

    00mB, according to convention, would represent 100 milliBytes...

    ...or about 1/10 byte. Since 1024 is about 1000, and 1/8 is about 1/10, I declare that 100mB = 1b.

  7. Kibibyte? That's one letter from... by Masem · · Score: 3

    Anyone else read that as "Kibobyte"? We really
    want a computer term that closely related to
    Kibo?? ;-)

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  8. Anyone noticed the new df? by BadlandZ · · Score: 2
    -h, --human-readable == print sizes in human readable format (e.g., 1K 234M 2G)

    -H, --si == likewise, but use powers of 1000 not 1024

    GNU fileutils 4.0, November 1998

    Well, in Linux anyhow, I notice FreeBSD uses 4th Berkeley Distribution, May 8, 1995, and my IRIX boxes are totally out of date, I can't tell what OSF1 is using, but it doesn't support -h or -H either.

  9. Disk manufacturers... by jd · · Score: 2
    Have, for a LONG time, "cheated" on the megabyte thing, using powers of ten rather than powers of two. It allows them to sell less disk space for more money, and still convince people they're getting a bargain.

    Personally, I don't think there's anything confusing about megabyte, gigabyte, etc. It's 2^0, 2^10, 2^20, 2^30, etc. Very simple, very logical, and very consistant with the spirit of the original meanings.

    Kikibyte sounds like some Polynesian parrot.

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  10. Maybebytes? by Signal+11 · · Score: 3

    Maybebytes: It could be a byte. Then again, it might not.

    Gibytes: How many bodies are on the floor after you get done playing Quake.

    Kilibytes: What you call somebody who has contributed to the Gibytes of another player.



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  11. Re:Heck, why not... by jd · · Score: 2

    Believe me, if they can, they will. They'll round off as they always have, and all we'll have gained is a more obscure, longer to write, name.

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