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ENIAC Story on NPR

Anonymous PIG writes "On August 19, NPR's Morning Edition aired a story about the ENIAC, the world's first computer, and it's forgotten inventors. It is archived on this page and you can listen to it directly at this link. " The story of how the creators were really screwed on the whole deal is interesting-definitely worth the download time.Update: 08/21 03:30 by H : I sit duly corrected-the first computer was not ENIAC. Arguably, it was Colossus, a British construction in 1943.Update: 08/21 02:18 by H : Alright, alright-stop e-mailing me with earlier computers *grin*. Zuse, Babbage's Engine. I'm saying the abacus, and leaving it at that.

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  1. Reality check by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

    Fun facts? Sad facts if you ask me...
    I think "Fun facts" was meant to be ironic...

    It says the computer community is missing some brilliant minds because it breeds a hostile environment for anyone who's not a white heterosexual male.
    At that time, there wasn't a "computer community" as there is today; rather, there was a mathematical community that was working on computing machinery. Regardless, Alan Turing's peers, those who worked with him, cared little about his personal life. It was the the British government, and by extension British society at large, that persecuted him, not the "computer community." Keep in mind also that Turing was about as Anglo as they come, and was male, so I fail to see what his feelings have to do with exclusion of non-whites or non-males. Non-heteros I'd grant, but the fledgling computer community of post-WWII is not the computer community of today. Comparisons, while interesting, are largely fruitless.

    The community needs to encourage more gender and racial parity,
    This I'll grant. I had a physics (not computer science, but a similar mindset) professor in college who failed a female student because he felt that females had no place in physics.


    and facts like these won't be novelties.
    In order for this fact to become uninteresting, suicides by brilliant pioneering white male homosexual computer scientist would have to become common. I would hope that the computer community will always remember a novel tragedy that cost it one of its most brilliant theoreticians.

  2. Re:They weren't 'screwed'... by UncleRoger · · Score: 2
    Ooh, I'm sorry... nice try! But hey, thanks for playing, and better luck next time!

    The mouse was invented at xerox,

    Bzzzt. Try SRI (Stanford Research Institute) by Doug Englebart and his team. Yes, several of them went on to Xerox's PARC (Palo Alto Research Center) where the mouse was put to use on the Alto, Star, and other groundbreaking machines.

    Check out:

    Doug Englebart's Unfinished Revolution at http://unrev.stanford.edu

    The joystick wasn't really invented, it started as a game paddle on the apple. (It's not really all the much of an invention, just a capistor/variable-resistor timing circut.

    Bzzzt. Actually, early joysticks were even simpler -- an array of four switches activated by the single, central stick. I believe first developed by the military well before Woz/Jobs were even born.

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  3. ENIAC? What the hell is that? by Accipiter · · Score: 2
    Walk out on the street, pull someone aside, and ask if they know what ENIAC was. Chances are, you'll get "uhhhh....huh?" Not many people care about the history of Computers. They just want one.

    I'm glad NPR aired this piece. ENIAC was quite and accomplishment for it's time, and more people need to know about it. (Hell, there's even a link on my page to info about it.)

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    1. Re:ENIAC? What the hell is that? by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

      And who invented the printing press? Got the answer? If you said "Guttenberg", you're wrong; he merely came up with the idea of movable type. I'll grant that this was an excellent innovation; it made it much easier to set up a press. However, the printing press (which is the example you mentioned) had already been invented, and with it the ability to mass-produce printed matter.

      Movable type was inevitable. Guttenberg, like many inventors, is merely given credit for thinking of it first.

  4. They weren't 'screwed'... by John+Fulmer · · Score: 2

    They were unlucky in running their own business, so they sold the patent to Rand Corp., who tried to use it to extort money from every other computing device manufacurer (this was in the NPR interview, not personal opinion).

    This forced a federal judge to revoke the patent. It was either that, or give a monopoly to Rand in the computer industry.

    I think the only way they really got screwed, was that their names aren't well known as the originators of Eniac, and this is what the NPR article brought out. But every great computer innovation seems to have gone this way.

    Remember the names of the guy's that wrote the first spreadsheet? How about the guy(s) that invented the transistor. Or the mouse, or the joystick, or any one of thousands of VERY important inventions or innovations. You may know some of them, but these people are mostly unknown to the masses.

    This is when you start really respecting RMS and FSF. To put out the volume of really important software, KNOWING that there would be next to 0% return (sometimes not even real credit given) has to be worth something.

    jf

    1. Re:They weren't 'screwed'... by Pascal+Q.+Porcupine · · Score: 2

      The joystick was actually invented at MIT so that the hackers could play Spacewar without mangling their fingers on the PDP's input switches. (Read "Hackers" by Steven Levy.)
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  5. Roots by UncleRoger · · Score: 2
    I met Scott McCartney on a book tour -- smart guy who did a lot of research. A book well worth picking up.

    Of course, everyone ought to take the time to learn a bit about their history at the Vintage Computer Festival. While you're at it, check out some of the great computer history sites like Blinkenlights, the Home Computer Museum, and Jim Willing's Computer Garage. And don't forget the Computer History Association of California.

    Of course, you should also check out my classic computer collection as well (plug, plug).

    Hmmm... All the HTML seems to be getting stripped, for some reason, so here are all the URL's again just in case:

    Vintage Computer Festival
    http://www.vintage.org/

    Blinkenlights Archeological Institute
    http://www.blinkenlights.com/

    Home Computer Museum
    http://www.homecomputermuseum.com/

    Jim Willing's Computer Garage
    http://www.computergarage.com/

    Computer History Association of California
    http://www.chac.org/

    Uncle Roger's Classic Computers
    http://www.sinasohn.com/clascomp/

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  6. ENIAC wasn't the first computer by Gleef · · Score: 2

    For many years, ENIAC was the first electronic, non-classified computer. It was solidly beat out by Turing & VonNeumann's COLOSSUS. Both ENIAC and COLOSSUS were beat out by electromechanical computers, like Conrad Zuse's Z3 (1941) and Harvard's Mark1 (1944).

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  7. Re:Fun facts and ironies about the first programme by Pascal+Q.+Porcupine · · Score: 2

    He was depressed because the British government decided to do the "favor" of "curing" him of his homosexuality. Namely they put him on lotsa hormones and psychoactive chemicals intended (by some odd bit of "logic") to make him desire women instead of men. Instead, they just caused much dysphoria, which led to depression, which led to suicide.
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  8. Re:First Computer: Don't forget... by UncleRoger · · Score: 2
    Konrad Zuse's son will be at the Vintage Computer Festival this fall to talk about his father's work -- definitely worth seeing/hearing.

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