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Cool Linux-based web device

DrStrange writes "I just noticed that Screen Media has updated their pages with info about their upcoming "FreePad"... It's a Linux based wireless web device and phone with touch screen, and according to one of their techs it's only 2.4cm (less than an inch) thick! The same tech also told me they'll be using NanoGUI for the graphical frontend! "

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  1. Re:Pricing by Vidar+Hokstad · · Score: 2
    The standard model will be tied quite closely to the delivered software, but I'm sure we'd be open for OEM deals if someone would like a to sell a "geek version" of it :-)

    Vidar Hokstad (who works for Screen Media)

  2. Re:Technical details by Kaa · · Score: 2

    All you would have to do is stick one of these devices on every bench. Add a stylus (NOT a screwdriver) and voila, instant access without ever having to leave your bench.

    Yes, of course. I thing Boeing did (or is trying to do) exactly this thing. But the problem is that you need hardened hardware for that. You need a pad that will survive drops onto a concrete floor, huge amounts of oil and grime, screwdrivers used in place of styluses, probably also closeness to motors (magnetic fields!) and a myriad of other stuff that I am too lazy to think of right now. Such hardware can be build, but it tends to be expensive, much more so than the $400...

    Kaa

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  3. Really fast cellular data tranmission by el_nino · · Score: 2

    Ericsson is first with a new device using a new protocol enabling data transmissions at 112 KBps over existing GSM networks. It's called GPRS, and it's currently being implemented by a German operator called T-Mobil. There's more info at www.gprsworld.com.


    %japh = (
    'name' => 'Niklas Nordebo', 'mail' => 'niklas@nordebo.com',
    'work' => 'www.pipe-dd.com', 'phone' => '+46-708-444705'

  4. Security... by Snarfvs+Maximvs · · Score: 2
    300 meters is serious range...I'd be more than a little concerned from a security standpoint. Just what we need is another path for the gub'mint to sniff around.


    Although I could see this being useful for corporate types who never get to sit down at their desks and are always lugging 8-lb laptops around, waiting for them to boot, and typing in a 15-word note.

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  5. Comments... by TurkishGeek · · Score: 3

    Overall, this looks like a great idea. It is much like Cyrix/NatSemi's Web Pad; only it is smaller and runs Linux instead of QNX. If they can offer this at an attractive price, I'm sure a lot of people will buy it. However, the wireless connection needs a bit of clarification-the system contains a DECT phone and I understand it utilizes the DECT system to connect to a base station in the house. DECT is another great European wireless technology standard (don't want to start another GSM vs. CDMA[insert any American(=Qualcomm) digital wireless technology abbreviation here] debate here; but they are pretty good at this stuff); but it is not common in the U.S. From a geek's point of view, the device looks wonderful. To be able to tap into the vast American market, though, they will need to come up with some other means of wireless connectivity, IMHO. Most people will not trash their existing phone system and go get DECT systems just for being able to use this in their home. And remember, this has a very limited range and will only let you access the Internet in or near your house (or wherever the DECT base station is).

    Still, given the incredible track record of Nordic people in wireless communications; I believe they should be able to find a way to make this work in the US using a different technology. Until then, I think this is strictly for Europeans. I am not even sure if DECT is permitted by the FCC in the US. Anyone with info on this??

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  6. And the market for this is...? by Kaa · · Score: 3

    I am somewhat unsure of the usefullness of such a device. It seems that it needs a normal computer somewhere in the house/office which is actually connected to the net and which feeds the wireless hub that transmits to the pad. So it's not independent like a laptop, and not a PC replacement for the great unwashed. Given that there is already a computer around, and given that the pad is mostly useful for passive web surfing and dealing with small-volume email, I wonder who needs it (besides the buy-the-latest-gadget crowd).

    Sure it's cool to sit in a bed/recliner/bathtub, stretch out a hand, pick up the pad, and check some web news. But it's likely to be a bit too expensive for this convenience. I don't think you can do much useful work on this pad, and if I already have a full-blown computer around, I'd rather haul my ass to it to do real thing.

    Of course, this is all IMHO and YMMV.

    Kaa

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    1. Re:And the market for this is...? by Pascal+Q.+Porcupine · · Score: 4

      Not everyone works at a desk. Some people need access to their information at work from anywhere. Mechanics, nurses, shipping/receiving folk, and many, many more who work in time-critical environments where they need instant access and can't have terminals everywhere, and certainly can't take the time to log in. Like, if a patient is crashing (in the medical sense) and the nurse on duty needs an instant judgement based on their charts and medical records.
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    2. Re:And the market for this is...? by Fastolfe · · Score: 2

      Pretty sweet concept. I always tried to keep up with stuff like this, and I'm surprised I haven't heard anything about it until now. Hopefully we'll start seeing technology used in more places here.

    3. Re:And the market for this is...? by Vidar+Hokstad · · Score: 2
      Disclaime: I work for Screen Media.

      It doesn't need a normal computer elsewhere in the house.

      DECT DMAP is an extension to DECT - the dominant protocol for cordless phones in Europe (it's starting to appear in the US too) - that allow data transfer, including networking protocols and wireless printing. The FreePad uses a DECT DMAP controller to speak to a DECT DMAP base station.

      The cool part is that the base station also supports the DECT GAP standard for voice communication, so it can be dropped in instead of any existing GAP base station and work seamlessly with both the FreePad and any other DECT equipment you might have, including handsets, portables with a DMAP PCMCIA card, and PC's with a DMAP ISA card.

      Also, it will be fairly cheap. Standalone it will likely cost less than USD 500,-, but as part of misc. bundling deals it will be possible to get it a lot cheaper, and in some cases for free.

      Vidar Hokstad

    4. Re:And the market for this is...? by Fastolfe · · Score: 2

      I'm still a bit unclear as to what this DECT DMAP base station is. It's basically a wireless base station "hub", yes?

      In order for these pads to have Internet access, though, that hub will need to be connected to... a PC? Is the base station capable of doing networking on its own? Can you just plug in a phone line, ethernet cable, whatever, or does it have to rely on another device for connectivity?

      Are any of these standards being implemented in telephones or networks in the US now?

      Do you have any URL's on the standards or manufacturers that use them?

    5. Re:And the market for this is...? by Kaa · · Score: 2

      Mechanics, nurses, shipping/receiving folk, and many, many more...

      Yep, that's called the vertical market. It's generally served by dedicated hardware/software combos (like the pads you see UPS workers carrying). It's a big market, but quite task-specific and I have seen no signs that the Freepad intends to compete in it.

      and certainly can't take the time to log in

      In this case you either have a big security problem or you are in need of special-purpose hardware that does automatic authentication based on, say, some kind of a dongle or a hardware ID. Again, not the Freepad stuff.


      Kaa

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  7. Re:Specs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    I've talked with them. It's supposed to be running a MediaGX CPU, possibly a 12" LCD screen, a smartcard reader, 16MB or 32MB RAM and 8MB flash..

  8. Re:actually 2.4 cm is more than 1 inch by GoRK · · Score: 2

    This is really interesting actually.

    An inch is exactly 2.54 centimeters. Several years ago (never mind how long exactly -- probably in the 70's with the metric hoopla) in order to make EngishMetric conversions absolutely precise for worldwide scientific use, the inch was actually standardized to the centimeter. As far as I know, the inch is now defined as 2.54 centimeters.

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  9. Technical details by Kaa · · Score: 2

    I'm still somewhat unclear about the setup. Let me describe how I see it, and you correct me where I am wrong.

    OK, the Freepad is, basically, a full-blown computer, in particular it runs the TCP/IP stack and all the accompaniments to it. The Freepad talks IP (among other things, maybe) to the base station, which is essentially a modem (also among other things). Presumably, the Freepad can tell the base station to dial a certain number and log in to the ISP. After the log-in, the base just shuffles IP packets between the phone wire and the Freepad. Currently the base station can handle POTS and ISDN (haven't you noticed it's dead? must be pretty smelly by now). Real soon now it will also support ethernet and CATV. BTW, does supporting CATV mean that the base can act as a cable modem? Or you need a separate cable modem?

    So, what is correct and what I got wrong?

    BTW I am still doubtful about the utility of a computer larger than a palmtop without a keyboard. And what't the expected price point? At $100-150 it may work. At, say, $400 and above -- fuggedabutit.

    Kaa

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  10. Anyone want to work on the software it? :-) by Vidar+Hokstad · · Score: 3

    If you're a programmer, and happens to live in Norway, and would like to work on the software for the FreePad, mail me at vidarh@screenmedia.no. :-)
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    Vidar Hokstad

    (Yeah, I work for Screen Media)