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AntiOnline Accuses, Attrition.org Responds

Posted by Roblimo on from the another-endless-battle dept.

borehawg writes "John Vranesevich of AntiOnline is accusing Attrition.org staff members of being involved with the "hacker" groups called "United Loan Gunmen" (ULG) and "Hacking For Girlies" (HFG). Attrition.org responds with this press statement. "

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  1. AntiOnline, At It Again by Coda · · Score: 5

    This has to be AntiOnline's most blatant attack against their enemies yet. Their accusation relies on two unproved points: 1.) HFG == ULG This looks shabby, since the two pages are totally dissimilar, and even if they were the same it wouldn't *prove* anything. 2.) HFG == Attrition Again, totally unfounded. Attrition supplies actually documentation with their assertions, making them much more credible. JP has yet to do anything but slander. I think JP's really reaching on this one. His web page, which could be a real source of news for the underground, is instead being used to throw his vitriol. To the people who are saying "kids will be kids": we're talking about the potential ruining of careers, not slanging matches between gangs of kids. JP is in a position of power, and he's abusing that. He's the underground contact of the uninformed, and as such he can say pretty much anything with impunity. I personally think the guys at Attrition should pursue legal action.

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  2. expose of Vranesevich by paul.dunne · · Score: 5

    This was posted on the CyberWire Dispatch; don't know of an archive for this, so I've put it here. I think this piece says all that needs to be said. Like any spoilt child, if Vranesevich was just ignored, he would shut up.

  3. JP doesn't know when to quit. by flamingdog · · Score: 5

    He is such an uptight little kid. Once upon a time, I wrote a script that spammed his hack attempts database. I sent it out to a few people who faithfully ran it. When he finally disabled it, I got an email from him taunting me and how he was keeping logs of me for future use.

    I swear he is the national enquirer of the internet. The time when he put up that "Eye on the underground" thing, and someone on a webboard he was "monitoring" inserted a little bit of code, he instantly blamed the webboard owners. Not only that, but he put out a press release stating something along the lines of "AntiOnline.com was not hacked. What happened is one of the owners of a service we monitor decided to change his content..." He faithfully declared this as the gospel truth.

    I swear, he will do anything for a little more press recognition. He is the ultimate media whore.

    Every time he gets in one of his pointless flame wars, he uses every possible media outlet as a means of trying to humiliate his adversaries. I saw during the last little bout, he used not only all 7 of his domains, but the happyhacker site, the happyhacker mailing lists, several other that he controls, and every time he was interviewed in that time, he mentioned it.

    Not to mention, he considers himself so computer savvy, but when I got that email from him, guess what the client was...yup...Outlook Express.

    Wow, I amazed myself by criticizing him without saying "crack baby media whore"

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