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Killing Off Linux: It's All Academic

angelh writes "Here's a good article that I don't think we should ignore. It's about Microsoft's plan of attack against Linux... Make a better product? Of course not. Better marketing? Not this time. Looks like now they're getting serious about attacking UNIX/Linux at the root level... Check out the link for a good read..." The article is from Linux Journal. It's not new, and the thoughts in it aren't either, but it's well worth reading. Check out the bibliography at the bottom, too.

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  1. Linux in the Small Places by Frater+219 · · Score: 4

    I work for the computing department of a small Massachusetts liberal-arts college. Now you mightn't think that a school of those characteristics would be a haven for Linux-based systems, but we are.

    First off, all our central information services except the administrative databases (MacOS - FileMaker Pro), the library catalog (AIX), the voicemail system, and two legacy servers (one SunOS, one NT 3.51) run on Debian GNU/Linux systems. That includes mail, user accounts, DNS, Web service, Web proxy service, Web-based database applications, networked backup, file and print service (samba and netatalk), and routing / firewalling / network monitoring.

    Further, we have an extensive Linux (and to a lesser extent BSD) subculture among our students. My boss teaches courses involving Linux, Perl, and other related Unixoid topics, and is in the process of building a CS curriculum on the basis of students' interest in Unix. Our computing staffing situation is dependent on student interest in Unix, as we tend to recruit from our own recent graduates.

    We received last year an offer from Microsoft for cheap software in exchange for a mindshare monopoly. We seriously considered it -- for about five seconds. Then it went in the circular file. We may be liberal-arts flakes, but we're not idiots!

  2. Plan could backfire (& let's hope s) by coldfusion · · Score: 4

    Intel tried to do the same thing to kill usage of the MacOS @ universities & colleges. In several cases (I think Yale was one of them, but I could be wrong), the plan met with initial success and then backfired (gave them mega-bad publicity _and_ the universities retracted their pro-Wintel policy). Hopefully the same kind of backfiring will occur this time.

    It reminds me of the deals Coke gets with fast food chains and university cafeterias to only distribute Coke (and thus the university gets some kind of kick-back from Coke). Disgusting.

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    -cf
  3. Re:More Liberal FUD... Baloney by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 4

    Balderdash. One of the key functions of a real university is to provide a forum for diverse opinions aka academic freedom. "The University is the Watchdog of Society" This is why we have the tenure system, for example. Without these sort of freedoms society as a whole becomes endangered from 'mob rule' and being perverted into a totally consumeristic way of life. When University administrators start cutting deals for specific teaching tools at the behest of commercial interests our society as a whole is in danger. Unfortunately in publicly funded universities this is often a real problem. What is REALLY alarming to me is that we see similar trends in secondary and primary schools; for example companies providing free visual aids in exchange for the school requiring the students to watch commercials for the companies goods and services. The is Very Very bad stuff.

    I am really sickened by latter day 'free market' advocates that seem to have forgotten the history of the free market in the US. The free market brought us the Pinkerton's assassination of union organizers, the Triangle Shirt Waist Fire, J. P. Morgan trying to face down the President of the United States (thank God it was TR) on the imposition of controls on large scale monopolies, Upton Sinclair's expose of food adulteration, a variety of environmental disasters, Company Towns, you name it. The fact of the matter is that Free Enterprise has been tried in this country and it Just Does Not Work for the simple reason that what is good for a company is not necessarily always good for the society as a whole. If you don't believe me, get any decent text on micro economics and look up the term "external diseconomy".

  4. Bill's False charity. by Juggle · · Score: 5

    This is the same reason I am disgusted by what Bill Gates considers his contribuitions to "Charity". Giving MS software to elementary and secondary schools? It's worse than the whole IE integration thing.

    Sure he gives out some software that costs him nothing but could have been sold for several thousand dollars. And in return he gets a generation of kids who've been force fed his applications since the first time they touch a keyboard. If they don't get exposed to anything else then why would they even want to think about anything but MS solutions.

    Of course the one saving grace is that kids more and more are questioning what they learn in school and questioning the schools themselves. My only hope is that kids revolt and turn agains MS because it's "what they get in school".

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    --- Juggle juggle@hitesman.com
  5. Interesting move M$, but will it work by PenguinX · · Score: 5
    Here are the facts, I live in Port Orchard - about 70ish miles away from Seattle. Microsoft is commercially strong and really does have a hold on the tech industry. I work for Xypoint - we're in the World Trade Center - the sister building to where Visio Microsoft owns the business market in this area --

    Here is the problem - Very few in the tech industry cares about Microsoft.... why? because it's a moneymaker - and that's all it is. Microsoft is setting themselves up for defeat in this arena why?

    Colleges don't want to spend money, and they haven't for years --- Do you think that Berkley pays for BSD? or that the UW pays for Linux etc.? They have a very long standing relationship with Unix -- the entire infastructure is built upon it... why would they for a couple of small products have to hire MCSE's (think about it folks -- they will need to do this the Microsoft way) when they have a whole bunch of Computer Sci students that can admin. the IT infastructure for pennies on the dollar, or free?

    This one is a good idea by Microsoft, but I honestly think that they better watch another commercial competitor -- yes Apple. Apple (from what I hear) is going to be striking some major deals with public schools and colleges using their normal client software and their (BSDish) MacosX The end thing here is that Microsoft (still) does not have a good server OS, and until Linux becomes more 'user friendly' most home users or clients are not going to want to use it... I made the switch years ago to Linux, and I have seen amazing improvements but -- they are meeting head on ... who will win?

    Well in this scenario Think of the nightmare of trying to get this approved just to begin with -- First this deal is going to have to be approved by the head of the IT/CS department, then the students (who would have to learn a whole different OS to keep their jobs) and finally - the budget committe or otherwise accounting (once they see what an MCSE goes for they will simply put a denied stamp on it). -- Some small colleges will go to this, the larger ones for example UW, Berkley, and CMU will not.

    What do you think?

  6. The article was a tad alarmist... by Skwirl · · Score: 5
    That's the line IU administrators took in their more recent deal with Microsoft, and there was nary a whimper of protest--but there should have been.

    As an Indiana U journalism/computer science major, I've got to add that there was protest here when the big Microsoft deal went down. Ol' Billy came to give a speech here shortly after that and there were protesters outside Assembly Hall and fliers denouncing the deal.

    Here's the problem, though, joe average student doesn't care. Joe average student doesn't even know that OSes besides Microsoft Windows exist. When I need to print something, I always go to a Mac lab, because there's never a line. And forget about Linux, because right now the learning curve is way beyond most students.

    Here's the good news: The people who care about Linux are the people who code, right? Every CS professor I've had at IU hates Microsoft as much as the next geek. Furthermore, most of my classes so far have been java based. Also, as far as I know, 90% of the servers here are unix-based. I think there's a few NT file servers. _shrug_ We get our email with Pine like everybody else.

    The fact that students can get Microsoft software freely and easily on campus is a bit of a problem, though. When I first learned about Linux last year and searched around for a distro on CD, I couldn't find one. LUGs out there that are concerned with advocacy need to burn distros and advertise a quick and easy way to pick them up.

  7. Another Microsoft University Tactic by Caballero · · Score: 5
    Mirsoft would love to heave researchers at the big schools working on Microsoft products. To encourage that they are providing not on NT source code (for free) to universities, but also full systems. Of course, part of the requirement to take the machines is that they only run Microsoft OSes.

    No, I'm not making this up. I know a few CS professors and researchers at the local universities that have these machines. Although they've thought about replacing the OS, the risk is too high. The threat is that all the machines would be taken away and that's significant value to the university.

    This gets Microsoft two big advantages. First, cutting edge research gets developed on their OS. Other OSes may get supported on other boxes, but that's more effort. At least Microsoft is sure the software works on their system. Unix development becomes the second choice.

    Second, and more indirect, is that these professors starting using Microsoft as their primary OS. The universities typically don't give the professors multiple machines. So, this influence propigates through the rest of the department and to the students.

    Most of the professors realize they are being used, and try to work around it as much as possible, but with research money and resource being scarce, they have to use the machines the best they can.

    - |Daryll

  8. MIT & Stanford Biz School v. CS/Engineering by rcgraves · · Score: 4

    Like MIT, Stanford's CS department has a new
    Gates building.

    As at MIT, there are no production Windows NT
    Servers in the Gates building.

    However, the Graduate School of Business (both
    Stanford's and MIT's) is heavily Microsoft-biased.
    Everyone *must* have a computer in the GSB NT
    Domain.

    It's a good strategy -- people who don't know any
    better assume that the best and brightest MIT and
    Stanford CS students have some relationship with
    Microsoft, and the future PHBs who will eventually
    make the real decisions get indoctrinated.

    Incidentally, behind the scenes, the Stanford
    GSB's entire infrastructure relies on two HP
    Vectras running ISC DHCPd. They were literally
    about to be thrown away because they weren't
    powerful enough to run NT anymore. Despite
    three months of effort by full-time Microsoft
    employees with the personal attention of Steve
    Ballmer (Stanford GSB alum), the high-end HP
    servers donated to the GSB could not be made to
    run Microsoft's DHCP server reliably. According
    to nmap, the primary server is still running the
    kernel I installed in December 1997. It's not
    unlikely that they haven't been rebooted since I
    left Stanford 18 months ago.

    My new job is more fun.

    Brandeis is small enough to lie below Microsoft's
    radar. For the most part, we get to make decisions
    based on merit. This means Linux, BSD, or OpenVMS
    on the server end, Windows NT on administrative
    desktops, and a mix of about 77% Win95/98, 22%
    MacOS, and 1% other in the dorms.

    Everyone's paychecks come from Oracle for Linux --
    pressure to move to Linux came from NT sysadmins
    unsatisfied with the reliability of Oracle on NT.
    Student records still live in 20-year-old software
    on the VAX (*probably* y2k compliant) because no
    off-the-shelf solution does everything the old
    COBOL hacks do.

  9. ... by Signal+11 · · Score: 4
    Ignore this? Are you nuts? This is Microsoft's solution to linux' long term threat to the server market. Go back and re-read the halloween documents and you'll note that they are very concerned about the long term threat linux poses. Their solution is also long-term.

    It'll be a long time - 3-5 years, before Microsoft starts to reap any rewards from this tactic. But they will reap the rewards. The best time to stop this strategy is now - at the beginning. Not four years down the road when we can all see first-hand the results of a unix-deprived IT community.

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