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New Linux Subsection on Google
randombit wrote in to say that Google has a new specialized Linux search. As an aside, I keep getting conspiracy emails about Google having banner ads. Never ceases to amaze me how worked up people can get about some things. Anyhoo, I did several searches with mixed success, but it seems to do a pretty good job of searching for Linux stuff.
What is up with this page? hmmmmmmm
Nascantur in Admiratione. (Let them be born in Wonder)
Actually, Google has had this section open for a while. They just never p1mp3d it before.
"I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Google has had a Linux search since I started using it, which was a few weeks ago at least. I know for a fact that the Linux search was present before Slashdot's story about Google finally getting out of beta. Oh well.
and the fact that some people must have as little of a life as you do.
This is great, nice to see a good search engine taking particular interest in such a cool subject. :) But, when Google crawls, it crawls alot. Over a couple days earlier this month Google went over my site 4-5 times which slightly skewed my stats. (I don't have a robots.txt file...)
-- Moondog
They've been doing that for months, at least. I use it a lot for Linux-related info. The Uncle Sam search is new, though. Hmmm, maybe it can find all my money old Uncle Sam made off with...
Banners makes the net go round
It is time to change the buisness practices of the drones of the world.
Check it out, Slashdot: Google Does Linux dated Aug 6, 1998. Google had the link to the Linux search on their front page at that point, then they moved the link; now it's on the front page again. It has always been there. *sigh*
I have an email in my saved mail dated 8/25/99 advising someone who was asking about installing pcmcia-cs drivers for an ambicom 10/100 card about that they should search through www.google.com/linux -- it's long been the first place I go for linux searches, seems a lot more comprehensive than the google search on RedHat's site.
I don't know what this is about Google and banner ads, but if people hate them that much, stop whining and filter them out!
Slashdot has banner ads too. Shouldn't people get worked up about that too (just to be consistent, I mean).
Je ne parle pas francais.
The linux search has been around forever. GoogleScout is pretty cool, it finds pages related to your search results. For example, GoogleScout for Slashdot finds a bunch of linux pages.
I'm not sure how the google.com/linux is different from a regular search on just google.com.
/. crowd? Or did I miss a kickass search site?
What are the best places to look for linux info? I personally do
1) deja.com first, extremely useful for hardware and troubleshooting reports
2) altavista, with a +whole +bunch of +pluses to make sure the word is included.
3) Google - the trouble with google is that it gives the same site 20 times in a row on the first 2 pages, whereas altavista has better distribution, but lower relevance.
4) redhat.com's mailing list archives - I used to try here a while ago, but I guess my iterative mechanisms have changed habits.
5) The linuxgazette.com search engine. Actually this is one I would rate 2 or 3, but I don't want to change the numbers after all this typing, esp. since I'm getting used to the aftereffects of the hair dryer thawing....
Hmmm...are these pretty typical of the
The Wooly Mammoth.
-- I'm not a freak show, I'm a mammal. --
The main guys behind Google are/were Stanford grad students. They included specified google searches of their favorite subjects. Linux and Stanford are the only two I know about. Anyone else have any more? (Aside from the obvious uncle sam, of course.)
This hidden subsection - www.idsoftware.com/pr0n - at idsoftware is probably the funniest umm...hidden subsection of any major web site. AFAIK, it wasn't pimped by id either, but in the spirit of things, it started circulating among die hard quake players.
:)
Warning - R rated, but NOT advisable for office viewing. OTOH, nothing too....well, just see it for yourself.
Wooly Mammoth.
-- I'm not a freak show, I'm a mammal. --
Google started as a grad project for the owners .. and is based to run on Linux boxes .. and as a linux section was one of the search options right from the start.
.. and when it moved to mainstream and google.com domain the linux section moved to /linux
.. and will prolly never move.
:))
most people that used google when it was still on the stanford site know that
I still use it as my main search engin for linux stuff
10 out of 10 for the google boys
now how about a NON-PORN section that auto-removes all porn sites from your search results *smile*
bain
Sanity is a majority vote.
What's this about serching with "best operating system", with linux.org as #1 and "worst operating system" putting microsoft.com on top position? Are there any more of these?
Do I smell a conspiracy?
Google has had that Linux search since their alpha days. I believe they also had a Stanford search. They just put it on their front page now, along with one on government documents.
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grappler
Vidi, Vici, Veni
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Try searching on google for "More evil than satan"
On the topic of Google... I guess it is well-known by now that if you search for "more evil than satan", Microsoft will turn up as the number one match.
Is this feature pre-programmed into Google, or is it merely a matter of its wonderful new indexing technology?
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/berkeley and /MIT also seem to exist, but no special graphics, and the searches returned errors when I tried them. RDW
Oh, its not new in the way that they've been trying to get to it for a while, but the Martha Stewart and Pauly Shore section had priority.
I think its RTFM time; you forgot to use the "" signs.
When you search for "more evil than satan" guess what you get ? http://www.microsoft.com incidently the disney is the third !
Cheers
There are so many search engines around that I sort of lost track. My favorites have allways been Yahoo and Altavista until I discovered the paralel search engines like Inference find which basicly submits your query to more then one search enginean and gives you a very nice formatted result. After discovering that I hardly use the 'single engines' anymore.
>3) Google - the trouble with google is that it >gives the same site 20 times in a row on the >first 2 pages, whereas altavista has better >distribution, but lower relevance. This used to be a serious problem, but seems to have been fixed a few months ago. At least I haven't had duplicate hits in quite some time (it shows a nested view now when multiple hits occur on the same site) and I tend to search there about once a day. Have you tried Google in the last couple of months?
It is hosted on the original (stanford) google site at http://google.stanford.edu/long321.htm and is really intersting if you are into that kind of thing (I am).
There are a whole lot of great papers on there, which in unique, because all the other search engines keep their crawling strategies etc very secret.
The #1 result on Google has a special bonus: you can click the I'm Feeling Lucky to be redirected straight to it. I'm troubled, then, that Google has a system to artificially insert a top result based on your search. The only reason I can think of for slowing down each and every search like this is selling keywords to the highest bidder.
Gates' Law: Every 18 months, the speed of software halves.
Try searching for the above term on Google. It's amusing. Slightly offtopic, but it IS a Google feature and quite amusing.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
Well I've just had to create myself a login so I can reply to this. If you can't understand why people get annoyed about banner ads, consider those of us (such as Europeans like myself) who have to pay for internet access and can equate time spent loading banner ads to money going down the drain. You may well argue that we all receive junk mail through our letterboxes and we all walk past advertising hoardings on our way to work ([ "$HAVE_CAR" = "yes" ] && s/walk/drive/) but we don't pay for the privilege. Any adserver ip address that isn't shared with the webserver goes straight into ipfw add reject tcp from any to $IP 80 if I'm at home or ipchains -A output -s 0/0 -d $IP 80 -p tcp -j REJECT at the office. Surely the worst offender is the otherwise excellent freshmeat, the only site I visit daily. If you're going to waste our bandwidth advertising something, at least advertise something that we haven't all got. And isn't the point of advertising to make money? Who makes money out of advertising Apache? It's free for God's sake.
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This is nothing new. You could always go to www.google.com/linux and get there. Its great to see it listed on the front page now though!
Google is the search engine for me! Literally! I searched for my name and it came up with most of the projects/pages that I have been involved in for the years.
/. !
The Linux search does leave something to be desired though. I personally prefer news groups or in the first instance the MAN pages before I'll go and look on the web. This has been true for all the occassions that I have required Linux info except one - Installation on a Dell Laptop. I can't remember the URL but I found the origional link right here on
Google has had a linux section for over a year. Yet another in a long line of "timely" slashdot articles.
Now my favorite search engine is /.'ed!!! Criminy!! I depend on this to get work done!
Ever since they delisted my ISP and all the pages hosted there (including mine), I've been down on Altavista.
/. effect had worn off, Altavista decided that my ISP has spammed them by submitting too many URLs and they delisted all of our pages and will not allow anyone to submit new ones.
It seems that someone put up a web page with a recursive Babelfish interface to repeated translate and retranslate entered text until it converged. Once the
I have discovered a truly marvelous sig, unfortunately the sig limit is too small to contain i
But they're not so bad..
found this one yesterday.
Meanwhile, they're fuckers for jerking me around when i sent my resume.
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spanky
Yes, this is off-topic, go ahead and down-moderate it. Really, now, what's the point of everyone adding "Echelon fodder" to messages? (Yes, I do know what the point is in theory.) First, it's pure speculation that Echelon even does simple word searching. Even if it does, what does adding "Echelon fodder" really do? Bog down the system for a week or two, until people come up with more sophisticated techniques for identifying suspicious messages? Is this something you want to encourage? Grammar parsers are common. Don't you think computers can tell the difference between actual sentences and lists of words?
Some news site somewhere talked about this. There are a number of other fun things to try. You can also try other things like:
"Best Operating System"
This gives you the "Linux home page" as the top match.
Oddly enough, if you type "Best Operating System in the World", you get Microsoft.com, followed by the "Linux Home Page", a FreeBSD link and a Debian link.
All this is just a consequence of the way the system works. Interested parties should check out this article in Scientific American.
I suppose it is only a matter of time before site authors start trying to influence all this.
The cake is a pie
click here
smash
I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
This is old news, where have you been.
I would like to know how many gig their databases takes...
If you use google as your homepage as I do, you may want to use this link instead. It loads faster and looks cleaner than the page they have up.
http://www.google.com/search?q=
-- Virtual Windows Project
So, the short answer to your question is, "I don't know." However, when google had only indexed about 24M webpages, their database was 53G compressed (at about 3:1, or 140G uncompressed).
It's pretty fascinating stuff.
-Dave
> "Best Operating System"
;)
> This gives you the "Linux home page" as the top match.
> Oddly enough, if you type "Best Operating System in the World", you get Microsoft.com, followed by the "Linux Home Page", a FreeBSD link and a Debian link.
So, Windoze is the Best Operating System in the World, but, of course, Linux is the best, period. Everyone already knew that.
Note that Disney turns up #3 in More Evil than Satan...
What?
Steps for a good laugh on Google:
1. Enter "more evil than satan" on the main page.
2. Once done, go back and go to the Linux Search page.
3. Type in "cmdrtaco".
4. Hopefully, you'll see a recommendation at the top from Amazon.com; "The Story About Ping".
5. Click on it to find that it's the wrong one.
how does google decide what sites are "linux-related" sites? assuming that they don't have humans selecting the sites, does it take a long time to set up the separate /linux search, or would it make sense for them to let you enter other areas like this:
area:javascript onload
The shareholder is always right.
I'm looking for an open source indexing/search engine that could handle 100K-1M pages. It seems that the Harvest project is dead. Any other ideas? (You can mail me at map@internet.org.ph. Thanks!
I'm looking for an open source indexing/search engine that could handle 100K-1M pages. It seems that the Harvest project is dead. Any other ideas? (You can mail me at map@internet.org.ph.) Thanks!