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SourceForge Goes Public Beta
Thanks to Tony for sending me the information on SourceForge. They've gone into public-beta, and having seen it yesterday, it looks super-cool. It's a free (as in beer) service to Open Source developers offering easy
access to CVS, mailing lists, bug tracking, message
boards/forums, task management, web site hosting, permanent file
archival, ftp downloads, full backups, and total web-based administration. Check out - and put your stuff in.
Sorry for the confusion there. Our intent was to promote these products in general and to give users something to download initially from our servers... sort of 'seeds'. We do print at the top of all 'seeded' project pages: NOTE: This project entry is maintained by the SourceForge staff. We are not the official site for this product. And we link to their own homepages as the project homepage. Should we not provide access to these projects at all, or is there a better way we could do this?
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Drew Streib, dtype.org
1. I'm sorry that us giving things away hurts you so much.
2. I don't understand the 'handing over your work' comment since authors maintain the copyright on their code, which is Open Source anyway.
3. I was personally involved in the creation of SourceForge and am a little offended at your comments that VA 'dropped support' for OpenProjects for some weird reason. We've hosted OpenProjects for some time now and are continuing to maintain that server. SourceForge was created to offer an outstanding service package that was of a scale different than anything done before.
4. I'm an Open Source developer and don't plan to take over anything. I'm also an admin at SourceForge.
I'd love to talk with you about these issues, seriously. Please feel free to email me about it.
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Drew Streib, dtype.org
i use a local cvs repository on my box for development. it'd be nice to have a pserver (why's it called pserver, anyway) so that other people can see the latest code or so i can when i'm not at home. the only problem is, i commit often and i don't want to have to have ppp up everytime i want to commit something.
possible solutions:
1. cvsup -- this is what freebsd uses extensively. only problem is, it's writting in modula-3. modula-3 compilers aren't available for every arch (eg, the ppc box i have at home)
2. rsync -- i've never used rsync before, but afaik, it should work fine for mirroring repositories.
thoughts?
As far as my ego, the message you quoted hardly relates how large it in fact is. I invite you to visit my web site to truly appreciate the grandiose nature of it.
Chris DiBona
Linux Community Guy, VA Linux Systems
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Grant Chair, Linux Int.
VP, SVLUG
Co-Editor, Open Sources
Open Source Program Manager, Google, Inc.
10G = 10 Grand = ten thousand
what is the difference between free beer, and free free...?
I got an account there, and then one day it just disappeared. Someone else appears to have bought the domain now, and they're selling a CD of some sort.
I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
A cool idea. I hope many emulate the spirit in which this was done.
However...
For legal reasons, we can't host strong-encryption products with code that originated outside of the US
This is the sort of thing we're going to see more and more. As far as I can see, the US government has two options:
1. Get rid of this silly 'munitions' rule
2. Accept that US companies will perpetually be at a disadvantage in international projects. I'm beginning to see this 'no encryption' message with increasing frequency; one pops up about once a week.
Finally - could you/would you trust someone else to keep a server up 24-7 for your source code? My experience of projects is that they need more than cvs/ mailinglist. They need coordinated web site and people close by to make it all work.
:) Probably this needs modifications to CVS to replicate commits and keep the trees in sync, though.. [2]
Here's the reason that I'd consider this (or something very like it):
I have a private CVS tree on my computer. However, I would like to be able to
(a) let other people have readonly access to this tree so they can see what
I'm working on, and
(b) have a good way to distribute source tarballs.
Currently my only recourse for (b) is to tell people to access it on my
computer, which is unreliable [1] and not optimized for that sort of thing. (a)
is doable with pserver, but insecure on top of having the same problems as (b).
If there were a way for me to keep a local copy of the CVS tree, *and* simultaneously mirror it with something like this, I think I would be in heaven
Daniel
[1] as in, it reboots when I feel like it, may be running unstable software, etc.
[2] if the server's tree is readonly for everyone but me this becomes a *lot* easier, I think.
Hurry up and jump on the individualist bandwagon!
There are a -lot- of servers offering these kinds of facilities, so what does SourceForge have that the others don't?
(I'm not saying it doesn't have an advantage, only that someone needs to point it out to me, if I'm to even get an inkling why someone wouldn't use one of the other facilities.)
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
It also says:
"If you accessed this page for root CA certificate rollover instructions prior to October 25, 1999, send an e-mail to our Root Rollover Specialist at CA-rollover@verisign.com or call 650-429-3400 for more information and instructions."
It is after October 25th, so maybe that means something. Besides, it doesn't cost anything to email them and ask what their take on things is...
Any license approved by the OSI is allowed. Other licenses are approved on a case-by-case basis.
See:
http://www.opensource.org/licenses/
http://sourceforge.net/docs/s ite/faq.php#whohost-main
XNOT has been doing this for a while, only better. Not beta, free CVS, page hosting, chat, FTP, an' all that. I'd take a look there too if you're interested in finding a host for a free software project.
You didn't look very hard, did you?
Did you try the FAQ??
--- "If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?"
You need to be logged in to submit a bug. I just submitted a bug about the blank page you get back when trying to submit a bug and not logged in. :) As for the certificate, it works for me (Netscape 4.7) -- I'll put a report in about that as well.
I must sya that this is the first time of have heard of a service like this, even though there are apparently others (XNOT).
/. when I wrote this. I like Mozilla. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. Similar to, but not quite the same as a quick shot of whiskey. No, mozilla is not on sourceforge.)
So does this mean that in the future we'll see a lot more of the following: ?
New Mozilla Milestone Release
Posted by Roblimo on 03:94 AM November 18th 2019
from the about-time-they-got-around-to-it dept.
Mozilla Milestone 1,256 is out. Go for it! Get it from Sourceforge
(Note: I in no way mean to insult Rob or mozilla. It's just the example I pulled off
"You want to kiss the sky? Better learn how to kneel." - U2
"It was like trying to herd cats..." - Robert A. Heinlein
Sig:
Barbeque is a noun. Not a verb.
While we're on the subject of free resources for open source/free software developers, I would like ot take this opportunity to shamelessly plug Advogato, a new site I'm launching.
Advogato is an advocate for free software developers, as opposed to free software users or free software businesses. The main features now are a Slashdot-style news flow and a cool diary server.
One of the central features is an implementation of the peer certification work I'm doing for my PhD research. The site uses a group trust metric to determine membership in the community of free software developers. Only members can post, which is my crack at the S/N problem.
If you are a free software developer, you are warmly invited to join, poke around, and participate. Others are welcome to poke around.
ObOnTopic: From a look over their site, SourceForge looks impressive as hell. With VA's backing, they inspire quite a bit of confidence that they'll be able to handle the load. This can only be of benefit to Linux, free software in general, and of course VA.
LILO boot: linux init=/usr/bin/emacs
Go here: https://www.verisign.co m/server/cus/rootcert/webmaster.html which describes what's happening.
Then go here: http://verisign.netscape.com/securi ty/rootcert/" and download a new browser.
It used to be that you could just download the certificates that you needed, but the URL i had for that is now dead...
The main difference is probably the hardware and a full time staff and Linux company behind it. We're not trying to compete with anyone on this, just trying to give something to the OpenSource community. In the end, I think having 'competing' services like this will drive them all to be better.
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Drew Streib, dtype.org