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Scientists Poised to Create Life

Tim C writes "I was watching the 9 o'clock News on BBC1 here in the UK, and could hardly believe what I was seeing - a group of American scientists have apparently discovered what they believe to be the 300 or so genes that are all that is required to create a simple life-form - more details can be found on the BBC news website. Somewhat reassuringly, they realise the potential impact of their work, and so are seeking the opinions of religious leaders before proceeding with the next stage of their research - actually attempting to create a living organism."

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  1. Re:Wow. Shock. Dismay by Mock · · Score: 5


    I believe in God, and I don't really think
    that we should create life.


    Why not?
    On what do you base this judgement?
    Where is it written that we should not create life?

    It's the same old story time and time again.
    Once, our religious leaders told us that it is not our place to study the heavens.
    Once, our religious leaders told us that it is not our place to use glasses that lie (telescopes and microscopes).
    Once, our religious leaders told us that it is not our place to dissect human beings.
    Once, our religious leaders told us that it was not our place to go to the southern hemisphere, where great beasts and antipodes lived.

    And so here we go for another spin... Sad, really.

  2. Engineering Life is EXTREMELY important by xtal · · Score: 5

    I don't know why they want to talk to religious groups, first off. That smells like a grab for some airtime and cheap publicity - Once you concider some of the impacts that this technology can have. From a step back, the only thing I've seen come out of religion recently is a lot of people killing each other and crazies annoying me at my front door in the morning.

    Flamebait aside - here's why this is really important. My dad is a PhD Genetist, and has talked about one of the problems with biology for the longest time. Basically it comes down to this - biologists aren't too concerned with how things work, why they work, and how to use them.

    One of his favorite stories goes like this - an alien biologist and an alien engineer land on Earth. They see a 2 TV sets, and don't know what they are. The biologist promptly gets his tools, microscope, sketchbook, and disscects the TV, counting and drawing each part, right down to the microscopic level. What does the engineer do? Hits the "power" button. :)

    Once we can engineer life, we can make use of the only known self-replicating, self-assembling, kick-entropy-in-the-face system in the universe! The applications are endless, here's a few:

    Want to colonize mars? Make a bacterium that feeds on mineral deposits and CO2 to generate massive amounts of Oxygen. Worred about infection and lifespan? An adquate understanding of the genes will allow you to program it to replicate 10 times, and then die - just like your cells die.

    Need clean power? The article hit the nail on the head. PLANTS split water up into hydrogen and oxygen - albeit in small amounts - and there isn't a soul on the planet that can duplicate that system. My dad would get a kick out of biology texts, because they have the engineering equivilant of a "and then a miracle happens" block on their photosynthesis charts. This alone has the potential to revolutionalize every aspect of our lives!

    Obviously there are dangers, but we're a species that lives with between 20k and 50k thermonuclear warheads turned on and able to extinct the planet with the confirmation of a code and the press of a button.

    Quantifying life in chemical terms will open up a new science, breathe new life into biotech, maybe put an end to some of this religious crazieness, and most of all - get engineers working with biological systems, the most elegant computer system of all. Whoever made that analogy in an above post was a genius!

    Kudos!

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  3. Re:Could or Should? by Capt+Dan · · Score: 5

    Ok so this comment started out as a reply, but turned into something else when I noticed that the article does not actually say anything about religous leaders, or asking there opinion. It states the following "The idea is currently the subject of an ethical review "

    So it's a question of Ethics, not Religion. Some may argue that the two are intertwined. For all we know they submitted it to a panel of their scientific peers.

    It seems more likely that they recognize that what they are trying to do effects the future of all humanity:
    "...the scientists involved say no
    attempt will be made to proceed with the daring
    experiment until there has been a full and public
    debate.
    "

    and respect the fact that maybe it should be humanity's decision, not thiers.

    The article states that there may be some debate on the subject that has religous overtones:
    "The prospect of "scientists playing God", as
    some will undoubtedly see it, is bound to
    provoke some fierce arguments.
    "

    But all that says is someone somewhere might do some bible thumping.

    note that the majority of humanity is religous, therefore if the decision is made by humanity, it may end up being decided on religous grounds.

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  4. Re:Too much by Mr.+Mikey · · Score: 5
    What - "There are some things that Man was not meant to Know." ? Spare me - sounds like a line from a second-rate Frankenstein movie. First, you complain about man "assuming the role of God." Which God? What evidence do you have to support the assertion that said God exists (note that I am not taking a position as to God's existence or nature)? Then you say that "man continues to disgust me". Self-loathing, perhaps?


    We, as always, should proceed with caution and forethought. When we create new lifeforms, we should consider the ethical ramifications first. No question. However, you want science to only go so far, and no farther. Who draws that line? And, how are you going to enforce said limitation? I think Galileo said it best: "I refuse to believe in a God that would grant us intelligence and curiousity, and then have us forego their use." (BTW, if I have the quote wrong, I'd appreciate a reference to the correct version). If, you have a particular diety you believe created the Universe and has some Plan for us, think long and hard before you start trying to speak in His/Her name.

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