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LinuxCare Gets $32M In Funding

TheFitz writes "CBS is running a story about LinuxCare receiving some heavy backing. Also mentioned in the story is the potential for LinuxCare to go public with an IPO. " Several comments from Sifry and a few other tidbits about the company. Worth a gander if you're curious about Linuxcare.

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  1. Everything in place now by trance9 · · Score: 4

    I think I'm finally ready to say that Linux is a credible threat to Microsoft. I think the change in the last week was an import one psychologically as well as financially.

    The business world has not only noticed Linux now (that happened last year), they're firmly behind it. Gone are the days when we have to argue that Linux is just as good as a commercial system--now we can just point to a few billion dollars of investments and say "Obviously they believe it." That's a dumb argument, but it's one that carries weight with non-technical people who don't understand the actual merits of one OS over another.

    Finally, all this money pouring into Linux is obviously going to translate into a lot of paid development hours and new applications. That should fill in whatever gaps there are missing in the Linux platform.

    From now on, the missing functionality is no longer a liability... it's an OPPORTUNITY.

    1. Re:Everything in place now by dante921 · · Score: 2

      Just because the business world has noticed Linux doesn't mean that everything is in place. Big companies will probably make up a huge chunk of Linux users, but only when Linux has become a true alternative to Windows in terms of average home users will everything truly be in place. Fortunately, I think that the biggest thing holding back (knowledgeable) home users from choosing Linux is the small number of applications for the typical home user. Until my mom and dad at home can get all the software they use on Linux, they'll stick with the status quo. (A funny sidenote: my grandmother, who didn't have a computer at the time, once asked me if she should get windows 95. No joke.) The reason I say fortunately is because as more businesses choose Linux, more developers will write software for Linux. That's when I think everything will be in place.

    2. Re:Everything in place now by MoToMo · · Score: 3

      I tend to disagree with you. Buisness drives the IT world, and home users are more of a niche market. Furthermore, if one controls the buisness setting, those people who have linux on their desktop at work will more likely buy what they already are familiar with for home use.

      Besides, who ever said that Linux must dominate all markets? Anyone who strives to make linux a dominant operating system is missing the point. The effort needs to be put into making it a better OS, and the domination will follow. Linux has never been about the big advertising and commercialism, it's been about doing thing well, and letting the product speak for itself.

      The goal should not be to have Linux penetrate into markets such as grandma's house, it should be to make the best OS possible and to let things fall into place. If grandma doesn't use linux, who cares? She might prefer the candy colored macs to match her stained glass windows for all i care.

      Microsoft is/was trying to make themselves the answer to every question. I think that is what will make them fail. Linux doesn't have to be the answer to every question, just the answer to some of them.

      -Dan

  2. Excellent service! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    I've called them a couple of times with problems. I on each ocassion found them to be friendly and smart. They know their stuff. Neither of the reps I spoke with had a problem admiting when he didn't know something, and was always able to go ask someone who did. I think they are a fine company, and I recomended them to my company to contract with for linux support.

  3. Some interesting comments. by belgin · · Score: 2
    I found some of the comments about Linuxcare alternately humorous and very interesting. One point that should be noted is the fact that some very heavy hitters in the industry are placing a lot of trust in this company. IBM does NOT farm out support to any group that does not know what it is doing. (At least, not for very long.) Michael Dell investing in the company is also interesting.

    I found it humorous the way that employees of Linuxcare were listed as "contributors to Linux". With the exception of Samba, nothing seemed to be said about what they contributed. Is there any serious Linux company that doesn't employ at least a couple of people who have contributed to Linux and other GPL'd software?

    I don't know too much about Linuxcare, but it might bear watching in the future. The industry is currently watching to see which Linux distributor "wins" the market...

    B. Elgin

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    1. Re:Some interesting comments. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4
      Linuxcare "Gurus" at:

      Linuxcare Gurus who's who

      Include Tridgell, Paul Mackerras(Linux on PPC), Paul Russell(ipchains), the excellent group of people at Prosa, and more on their way!

  4. It's a GOOD Thing by Spazmoid · · Score: 3

    Finally... an Intelligent FP :).

    Anyway, I think this has the ability to become a very good thing. While we have seen over the past year or so that businesses have started to turn an eye toward linux and then become major invetors, one of the key obstacles to any type of major OS or software is support. Where do the big guys go when they don't have the knowledge or resources available to figure something out? Once an infrastructure like that is in place it filters down to lower and lower levels, IE: smaller corporations and eventually small businesses. I don't thing that it will be long till me get some certification levels and alphabet soup tied to our knowledge. I know a lot of people here are not exactly friendly toward tech. certifications, but like it or not, a lot of not technical managers look to them to gauge a persons worth. Even if we know the certification doesnt mean crap,

    Anyway, our time has come. Make your opportunities!

  5. Mistake in article by EricWright · · Score: 3
    Quoted from the article:

    Andrew Tridgell, [is] a Linuxcare researcher who authored Samba, a piece of programming that makes a Linux server work much like a Microsoft (MSFT: news, msgs) Windows NT server.

    like ...what a funny way to spell better!!!

    Eric

    PS This is humor. Turn off the flame-throwers.

  6. Re:IPO!!! okay you got my attention!! by SoftwareJanitor · · Score: 2

    You mean VA Linux, "/vmlinux" is something totally different... :-) Well, without /vmlinux, VA Linux wouldn't be there I guess.

  7. Re:Open Source by belgin · · Score: 3
    I believe that we should look carefully about all these recent funding sources and see what is in it for the providers.

    Simple. The corporations get to sell services. Selling a service is usually much more lucrative than selling software. If you have a person charging $100 an hour to troubleshoot other people's problems with setting up Linux, or maintaining Linux, you make a pretty good chunk of change. People who really understand a given piece of software are more rare than many /.ers tend to remember. The Total Cost of Ownership is what we are talking about here, not the cost of initially buying into the software.

    When IBM has Linuxcare answer someone's questions, that someone pays IBM $X, and IBM gives Linuxcare ($X - $Y).

    B. Elgin

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    "Read at your own risk; feel free to ignore."
  8. Low-Graphics Printer-Friendly Link by Mignon · · Score: 3

    In case anyone's interested, here's the low-graphics, printer-friendly link.

  9. Effective way to "pay" for free software: Invest. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    I think the stock market is going to turn out to be one of the most effective ways to fund free software. Instead of throwing away $$ to Microsoft on software rental, invest that money in companies that create/support free software.
    Then you get better software for keeps, companies get investment to make(and support) more free software, and hey you also may get a finacial return on your investment. Cool.

  10. Re:Another IPO? by sethg · · Score: 4
    Expect to see a flurry of people trying to get their names in a few of the contributor lists...
    In this message from last week, I suggested pretty much the same thing. A day later, I got the following email. As Dave Barry would say, I swear I am not making this up.
    Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:38:18 -0800 (PST)
    From: censored to protect the guilty
    To: sethg@ropine.com
    Subject: help please on uploading helloworld to freshmeat.net

    hi, i read slashdot today and you stated that a person can post a helloworld program to freshmeat.net/org/whatever.

    guess i missed the ipo boat for valinux. can you pleez help w/ instructions on how to create/upload the helloworld program for next ipo's?

    i use rh6.0 w/ gnome and enlightenment- thanks!

    \begin{joke}
    The answer to his question, of course, is to join the Free Software Developers' Network. The FSDN offers freshmeat access, and a whole bunch of other valuable services, for a mere $19.95 per year. If you're interested in joining the FSDN, just email me your credit-card number and expiration date, and I'll pass along your application.
    \end{joke}
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    "But, Mulder, the new millennium doesn't begin until January 2001."
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    send all spam to theotherwhitemeat@ropine.com
  11. Related Article by sled · · Score: 3

    This article also mentions some recent acquisitions by Linuxcare.

    http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/991214/c.html

  12. Re:IPO!!! okay you got my attention!! by technos · · Score: 2

    Don't you mean

    /boot/vmlinux
    /usr/src/linux/arch/1386/boot/vml inuz
    or
    c:\lilo\vmlinu z?

    Nobody keeps it in / anymore! What are you, a 1.2.xx junkie? ;)

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  13. Good indeed, but remember the roots by ~-zman-~ · · Score: 3
    The fact that linux is becoming recognized in the mainstream media and by corporate conglomo's is indeed a "good thing".

    However, we need to remember that we don't need to justify ourselves. Each of us use linux for whatever reason we want to. I personally don't care if linux takes down windows. It would make me happy as I have a personal vendetta with MS, but as far as the development of linux, it's unimportant.

    As linux grows into the masses it is becoming simpler and easier to use. This is a good thing. When people have trouble, they look for support from a trusted name. LinuxCare is looking to be that name.

    All of this is well and good, as long as linux stays in touch with it's roots.

    It is important to remember what free software is really about. Freedom. Not price.

    Don't use VA's IPO, RedHat's IPO, or LinuxCare 32m to justify your use. There is plenty of justification already in place.

  14. Re:IPO!!! okay you got my attention!! by SoftwareJanitor · · Score: 3

    I am a 0.99 junkie... :-)

    I am also a smartass, but that is beside the point. :-)

  15. Can I get that in writing by ch-chuck · · Score: 2

    No, you can't even put an identity on this 'prediction', so we can't chuckle at you personally next February (and if Win2k is anything like NT, it's going to be 5 long years of luser testing before they get it up to snuff - Gartner Group: wait untill service pack 3). At least Bob Metcalf had the courage to put his name on his belief that these Internet stocks we're all going to crash on Nov. 8

    Besides, OS/2 was pretty much just another NT (in more ways than one) w/o the benefit of an installed base of DOS and Win31 to leverage, capitalize on, exploit and ensure they migrate to yet another Mickysoft product from.

    Win2k will meets the needs of a lot of people, it will succeed - just some of us will demand software we can work with and control, not luserware that want's to control us w/ 'proactive help/marketing'. And I'm certainly not going to make the mistake of supporting M$ products on someone else's dime again (they're still getting a lot of 'free' support from their suckers) - if someone pays for a Win2k license (and esp if they pirate it) and has a problem and swivels around to look at me, I'm just going to read them the EULA, laugh and say "sorry I don't support it - call MSFT, it's their property".

    Boojum

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  16. Re: linux critical mass by poopie · · Score: 3

    When linux is being covered by Gartner reports and shows up favorably in the "magic quadrant", then it's big news. Many large corporate decisions are made based solely on a simple gartner square with some dots in it.

    It sounds silly, but if you're in a big company, and you're pushing a solution or a product that isn't favored by Gartner research, Senior management's going to ask you to re-evaluate and see why $GARTNER_TOP_PICK wouldn't work for the company.

    Nowadays, the senior execs have suddenly "DISCOVERED" linux, and now they're looking to form "Strategic Alliances" and establish "linux partnerships" (but the senior execs are still using Windows :()

    anyway, on a related note, I head 3 non-technical women in the movie theater yesterday talking about investment (and the LNUX IPO) and one was trying to explain to the others what linux was. She said "now everybody is trying to learn linux - it's like windows NT but people say it's better and it's free." To me, overhearing that discussion meant more than placement on the gartner quadrant!

    Have you noticed that nowadays hardly anyone mispronounces linux?