Government bureaucracy is cliche, but at least it's usually not near as expensive as doing all the same things, for the same costs, minus the profit and fraud that private companies bring to the mix.
Yeh, the article seems to imply it's a direct measurement, when it's not. And i agree, the OP made a very insightful comment on what can be a really tough thing for a lot of people to grasp.... and me without mod points/sigh.
The event horizon is nothing more than a point in space determined by the mass of the singularity inside it, so thinking of it as something tangible, while it may help to visualize it, really doesn't do justice to what's really going on. Consider, everything inside that threshold is revolving around the central point as well, including the empty "space."
Definitely a place you'd want to bring a camera to.
Every single person in this country, even before they were born, receive rights and benefits of living here, complete with a couple hundred years of prior generations investing in the future so that people would be better off now than they were then. That investment requires taxes, and EVERYONE benefits from those taxes, and the taxes prior generations paid.
During WWII, the tip marginal tax rate was 92%. On top of that, men by the millions were asked to wage war for this country, with the very real possibility that they were being asked to make the ultimate sacrifice for this country.
ANYONE who is too much of a little dickless asshat to suggest that the lowest taxes in the past 60+ years is "legalized thievery" needs to be taken out and tarred and feathered, then ran out of this country...because on top of all the rights, benefits, and investments of prior generations that they have used since the day they were born, they have the audacity to be the biggest fucking assholes ever. They take for granted everything that EVERYONE in past generations have done for this country, and for them... the monetary investments, the work, the sweat, the blood, and the lives, and they belittle every American that's come before. FUCK THEM.
...and the right is basically filled with people who can't understand anything past a 15 second sound bite. Use your brain for a change. A name means nothing over actions taken. North Korea isn't a democracy, the Moral Majority was nether, and NAZI's were mid-right... about half way between center and Mussolini. I'm sorry your too fucking conservative to be able to think, but you could at least try to learn some real sociology, not this revisionist crap your fascist masters have been spewing the past decade or two as they pull this country past Mussolini's fascism.
Perhaps you just need a basic primer on the whole idea... not put forward by a fucking fascist master race wannabe like republican conservatives: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism That's about as basic as it gets. Hopefully you'll be able to get farther than 15 seconds into it before loosing you ability to think.
The problem in this country is too many fucking idiots who can't fucking think.
My post is about the low effort thinkers who couldn't find their ass with both hands and a flashlight. I get it, though... Goebbels was right: tell a lie often enough, and people will believe it. As someone else responded to you, the official name for North Korea starts with "Democratic..." Are you so stupid to believe that North Korea is a democracy? This is the big lie that conservatives have been using for decades, and can be seen most everywhere: misinformation, and a gullible, ignorant, uneducated sheep-like following of mental midgets.
Acts 4:32-37 -
32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,
37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
Or maybe this one:
Acts 2: 44, 45 -
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things in common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
The Nazi's were right of center, about mid-way to the extremes of Mussolini. I realize that a bunch of revisionist shitheads have been trying for the past decade or two to make it seem like all the "bad" things are on the left side of the spectrum, but those people are basically the same kind of assholes that are trying to rewrite the Bible to make Jesus less of a socialist, and more of a capitalist, conservative fuckwad.
What you're saying is.... threatening to ban war criminals from politics is as bad as being a war criminal committing mass murder. Someone needs to pull their ideological shit filled head out of their ass.
I think you wanted to respond to MichaelSmith. I was responding to your question on whether it would simple explode in the atmosphere or not. I think it was Dyson that first suggested that not terribly large object entering the atmosphere at a very high rate of speed could actually impact the oceans floor without even touching water due to bowshock. (my caveat: it's been over 35 years since i read much on the subject, and my memory is not remotely close to what it was then. It may have been someone else's writings that were published at that time, and somehow got attributed to Dyson in my grey matter.)
As for your point: yes, volume increases isn't linear with size, and volume decrease would necessitate a significant increase in velocity to compensate. There's a lot of variables to take into account other than simply size and speed in the overall picture, though. Actual damage would also change depending on the terrain, height of the air burst, and impact or air burst. I think MichealSmith's point isn't a strict comparison of exactly the same amount of energy released, but more along the lines of "it doesn't have to be big size wise to cause a lot of damage."
This one in Russia would have caused significantly more damage had the burst been lower in the atmosphere, or in a more populated area, where one larger than this would have caused little to no damage somewhere out in the middle of the ocean.
I'd suggest any sampling based on 1 persons local area is probably not the norm, and may not even be close to average. While you have your local experience, here's mine: My brother, who has a small umber of hives, and does sell his honey one jar at a time (as opposed to when he was younger selling by the barrel to regional honey distributors), sells his lower than the area's stores do... not by a lot.... but lower, and it is definitely better honey. Additionally, other people he knows in the small end business sell roughly at the same price, and that price is lower than the 60lbs bucket rate at those regional honey distributors.
My suggestion is: find a different local beekeeper, and compare prices, or hell, even eBay if your local deal is charging twice the grocery store price. You'd get a better deal even with the postage, as twice grocery store prices is pretty obscene.... and pretty hard to believe.
Yes, and no. If we can track these things, we may have years, or even centuries, of data to pinpoint where they're going to hit. If we happen to find something that's not going to hit us in 48 hours, that doesn't mean we're simply going to ignore it... we're going to remember it, and the more we learn about it, the more we'll have an idea if it's going to hit in the future, and where.
On the other side of that is, most of these objects won't need an evacuation. The one that came in over Russia didn't, but, the vast majority of those injuries could have been avoided if people would have known something was coming, and to stay away from their windows around a certain time of the day just to be safe. In that sense, those 12 hours of warning would have eliminated 95% or more of the injuries this one caused.
At very high rates of speed, which 100km/sec would be a flat out damn fast as the normal/average speed is more in the line of 12-20km/sec, it would be possible for it to simply punch a hole through the atmosphere without ever ablating anything.... think of it as a bow shock, if you will. There's a number of variables though... composition (iron a better choice than stony), and entry angle (steep entry more likely), but it's possible. That would definitely make a dent in anything it landed on.
This is where I point out that Social Security is not Welfare unless it is, for the purposes of Democrats who want to call Libertarians names.
....or the purpose of republicans, and apparently libertarians (republicans too embarrassed to admit they voted for Bush... twice) to denigrate EVERYONE that's not making a million or so a year. I understand conservatives can't learn anything from the past, but it's been less than 6 months since Mitt's "47%" bullshit... that 47% being largely, the elderly, and people on social security and disability, who by tend to be more republican than democrat (red states have a higher percentage of people in that 47% then blue states do).
Lets face it, the perfect "libertarian" utopia would look a lot like Somalia. Libertarians today are simply people who no longer want to live up to ANY responsibilities that people have always had to their society, even though they've gained all the benefits every single day of their life.
Trouble is, largely due to the govt unions...the actual downsizing in PEOPLE will likely not happen to the extent it should.
No.
The trouble is, we have a large contingency of elected people who have been intentionally trying to subvert the proper functioning of government for 30 years, and this is just one more way they are trying to do it. No company funds 75 years worth of retirement payments ahead, and for conservative fucktards in congress to pass legislation to force the post office to do so is nothing more than an intentional attempt to destroy USPS' ability to function.
At the same time, congress has refused to allow USPS to offer services that could generate more income because some of the truly fucking idiotic congress people are on this ideological bullshit meme of "privatization." Privatization always costs more money, because you add an additional layer of cost into the mix... called profit. Here's the rub: UPS and FedEx do not want to take over USPS' mail routes. It would be far too costly for them, and many times those services use USPS resources to move their packages anyway.
So the "trouble" is: really stupid fucking idiots who don't understand basic business, and hate that our government does ANYTHING for the people of this country.... and the stupid fucking idiots that empower those stupid fucking idiots.
Just think - if, at the start of the year, you were earning $300 a day (no tax), but by the end of the year you were earning only $150 for the same amount of work, wouldn't you be tempted to just call it quits and take a holiday?
That's not a valid argument though. For that to be true, their marginal rate would have to be well in excess of 50%, and the person would have to be paying the full rate with no deductions. Top marginal rate is currently 39.6%, and anyone in that bracket (400K+) is going to have deductions decreasing their real tax liability.
The dentist (and his wife) in question were complaining that because they would break that barrier, they'd loose lots of extra money, clearly believing that that 39.6% would be applied to all of their income, not just the additional amount over 400K. When corrected, they had nothing more to say about it. So the valid argument for their position would have been the difference between making $300 and making only $286. That's the increase they were kvetching about in reality. The problem was, they didn't have a clue how the tax code actually works, which should be obvious to anyone who actually looks at it.... which certainly should be anyone who's going to participate in an anti-tax interview.
...and yes, i really wish i could find my link to the article. Someday i'm going to have to clean out my bookmarks.
It turns out that the top marginal tax rate is never the tax rate actually paid, and it was intentionally designed that way. I'm often surprised that people who want to think they're "in the know" don't understand such a simple concept, nor give people basic credit for understanding such a simple concept; however, then i'm reminded of people like the dentist last year who (in an anti-tax interview) said they'd stop working right each year right before they made enough to be pushed into a higher tax bracket because they didn't want their rate going up and costing them a lot more money.... because they didn't understand difference either. As David Gerrold said: "common sense isn't."
Not really. I enlisted after college, i wasn't an officer; there is no brass on my shoulder, i worked for a living. It's a lot different enlisted than as an O, and i would imagine it's a bit different in NZ as opposed to the USA; then, of course, theirs the whole air force thing.... The army is always different than the 8-5 flyboys who play military during work hours.
Did you file the BR-K-7.200 in triplicate to have it returned? As for KP, been there, done that a couple times. With the outsourcing of pretty much everything, i'm surprised the still have it.
Clearly you've never been in the military. Military personnel do not have freedom of speech. You want an opinion? You will be issued on by your supply sgt.
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Yes, it was.
"All crime is committed by the living. The punishment is death."
....and will happen again.
Government bureaucracy is cliche, but at least it's usually not near as expensive as doing all the same things, for the same costs, minus the profit and fraud that private companies bring to the mix.
Yeh, the article seems to imply it's a direct measurement, when it's not. And i agree, the OP made a very insightful comment on what can be a really tough thing for a lot of people to grasp.... and me without mod points /sigh.
Like a government contract given to a private company, yep.
The event horizon is nothing more than a point in space determined by the mass of the singularity inside it, so thinking of it as something tangible, while it may help to visualize it, really doesn't do justice to what's really going on. Consider, everything inside that threshold is revolving around the central point as well, including the empty "space."
Definitely a place you'd want to bring a camera to.
Bullshit.
Every single person in this country, even before they were born, receive rights and benefits of living here, complete with a couple hundred years of prior generations investing in the future so that people would be better off now than they were then. That investment requires taxes, and EVERYONE benefits from those taxes, and the taxes prior generations paid.
During WWII, the tip marginal tax rate was 92%. On top of that, men by the millions were asked to wage war for this country, with the very real possibility that they were being asked to make the ultimate sacrifice for this country.
ANYONE who is too much of a little dickless asshat to suggest that the lowest taxes in the past 60+ years is "legalized thievery" needs to be taken out and tarred and feathered, then ran out of this country...because on top of all the rights, benefits, and investments of prior generations that they have used since the day they were born, they have the audacity to be the biggest fucking assholes ever. They take for granted everything that EVERYONE in past generations have done for this country, and for them... the monetary investments, the work, the sweat, the blood, and the lives, and they belittle every American that's come before. FUCK THEM.
...and the right is basically filled with people who can't understand anything past a 15 second sound bite. Use your brain for a change. A name means nothing over actions taken. North Korea isn't a democracy, the Moral Majority was nether, and NAZI's were mid-right... about half way between center and Mussolini. I'm sorry your too fucking conservative to be able to think, but you could at least try to learn some real sociology, not this revisionist crap your fascist masters have been spewing the past decade or two as they pull this country past Mussolini's fascism.
Perhaps you just need a basic primer on the whole idea... not put forward by a fucking fascist master race wannabe like republican conservatives: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism That's about as basic as it gets. Hopefully you'll be able to get farther than 15 seconds into it before loosing you ability to think.
The problem in this country is too many fucking idiots who can't fucking think.
My post is about the low effort thinkers who couldn't find their ass with both hands and a flashlight. I get it, though... Goebbels was right: tell a lie often enough, and people will believe it. As someone else responded to you, the official name for North Korea starts with "Democratic..." Are you so stupid to believe that North Korea is a democracy? This is the big lie that conservatives have been using for decades, and can be seen most everywhere: misinformation, and a gullible, ignorant, uneducated sheep-like following of mental midgets.
Here's some reading for you. Your assertion of the "only" thing about economics from Jesus is basically bullshit; Jesus' narratives are filled with social and communal scribing. http://valentinelogar.hubpages.com/hub/Jesus-was-a-Socialist
But here's one even better:
Acts 4:32-37 - 32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. 34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. 36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus, 37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
Or maybe this one:
Acts 2: 44, 45 - 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things in common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
The Nazi's were right of center, about mid-way to the extremes of Mussolini. I realize that a bunch of revisionist shitheads have been trying for the past decade or two to make it seem like all the "bad" things are on the left side of the spectrum, but those people are basically the same kind of assholes that are trying to rewrite the Bible to make Jesus less of a socialist, and more of a capitalist, conservative fuckwad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum
What you're saying is.... threatening to ban war criminals from politics is as bad as being a war criminal committing mass murder. Someone needs to pull their ideological shit filled head out of their ass.
I think you wanted to respond to MichaelSmith. I was responding to your question on whether it would simple explode in the atmosphere or not. I think it was Dyson that first suggested that not terribly large object entering the atmosphere at a very high rate of speed could actually impact the oceans floor without even touching water due to bowshock. (my caveat: it's been over 35 years since i read much on the subject, and my memory is not remotely close to what it was then. It may have been someone else's writings that were published at that time, and somehow got attributed to Dyson in my grey matter.)
As for your point: yes, volume increases isn't linear with size, and volume decrease would necessitate a significant increase in velocity to compensate. There's a lot of variables to take into account other than simply size and speed in the overall picture, though. Actual damage would also change depending on the terrain, height of the air burst, and impact or air burst. I think MichealSmith's point isn't a strict comparison of exactly the same amount of energy released, but more along the lines of "it doesn't have to be big size wise to cause a lot of damage."
This one in Russia would have caused significantly more damage had the burst been lower in the atmosphere, or in a more populated area, where one larger than this would have caused little to no damage somewhere out in the middle of the ocean.
I'd suggest any sampling based on 1 persons local area is probably not the norm, and may not even be close to average. While you have your local experience, here's mine: My brother, who has a small umber of hives, and does sell his honey one jar at a time (as opposed to when he was younger selling by the barrel to regional honey distributors), sells his lower than the area's stores do... not by a lot.... but lower, and it is definitely better honey. Additionally, other people he knows in the small end business sell roughly at the same price, and that price is lower than the 60lbs bucket rate at those regional honey distributors.
My suggestion is: find a different local beekeeper, and compare prices, or hell, even eBay if your local deal is charging twice the grocery store price. You'd get a better deal even with the postage, as twice grocery store prices is pretty obscene.... and pretty hard to believe.
Yes, and no. If we can track these things, we may have years, or even centuries, of data to pinpoint where they're going to hit. If we happen to find something that's not going to hit us in 48 hours, that doesn't mean we're simply going to ignore it... we're going to remember it, and the more we learn about it, the more we'll have an idea if it's going to hit in the future, and where.
On the other side of that is, most of these objects won't need an evacuation. The one that came in over Russia didn't, but, the vast majority of those injuries could have been avoided if people would have known something was coming, and to stay away from their windows around a certain time of the day just to be safe. In that sense, those 12 hours of warning would have eliminated 95% or more of the injuries this one caused.
At very high rates of speed, which 100km/sec would be a flat out damn fast as the normal/average speed is more in the line of 12-20km/sec, it would be possible for it to simply punch a hole through the atmosphere without ever ablating anything.... think of it as a bow shock, if you will. There's a number of variables though... composition (iron a better choice than stony), and entry angle (steep entry more likely), but it's possible. That would definitely make a dent in anything it landed on.
This is where I point out that Social Security is not Welfare unless it is, for the purposes of Democrats who want to call Libertarians names.
....or the purpose of republicans, and apparently libertarians (republicans too embarrassed to admit they voted for Bush... twice) to denigrate EVERYONE that's not making a million or so a year. I understand conservatives can't learn anything from the past, but it's been less than 6 months since Mitt's "47%" bullshit... that 47% being largely, the elderly, and people on social security and disability, who by tend to be more republican than democrat (red states have a higher percentage of people in that 47% then blue states do).
Lets face it, the perfect "libertarian" utopia would look a lot like Somalia. Libertarians today are simply people who no longer want to live up to ANY responsibilities that people have always had to their society, even though they've gained all the benefits every single day of their life.
Trouble is, largely due to the govt unions...the actual downsizing in PEOPLE will likely not happen to the extent it should.
No.
The trouble is, we have a large contingency of elected people who have been intentionally trying to subvert the proper functioning of government for 30 years, and this is just one more way they are trying to do it. No company funds 75 years worth of retirement payments ahead, and for conservative fucktards in congress to pass legislation to force the post office to do so is nothing more than an intentional attempt to destroy USPS' ability to function.
At the same time, congress has refused to allow USPS to offer services that could generate more income because some of the truly fucking idiotic congress people are on this ideological bullshit meme of "privatization." Privatization always costs more money, because you add an additional layer of cost into the mix... called profit. Here's the rub: UPS and FedEx do not want to take over USPS' mail routes. It would be far too costly for them, and many times those services use USPS resources to move their packages anyway.
So the "trouble" is: really stupid fucking idiots who don't understand basic business, and hate that our government does ANYTHING for the people of this country.... and the stupid fucking idiots that empower those stupid fucking idiots.
Just think - if, at the start of the year, you were earning $300 a day (no tax), but by the end of the year you were earning only $150 for the same amount of work, wouldn't you be tempted to just call it quits and take a holiday?
That's not a valid argument though. For that to be true, their marginal rate would have to be well in excess of 50%, and the person would have to be paying the full rate with no deductions. Top marginal rate is currently 39.6%, and anyone in that bracket (400K+) is going to have deductions decreasing their real tax liability.
...and yes, i really wish i could find my link to the article. Someday i'm going to have to clean out my bookmarks.
The dentist (and his wife) in question were complaining that because they would break that barrier, they'd loose lots of extra money, clearly believing that that 39.6% would be applied to all of their income, not just the additional amount over 400K. When corrected, they had nothing more to say about it. So the valid argument for their position would have been the difference between making $300 and making only $286. That's the increase they were kvetching about in reality. The problem was, they didn't have a clue how the tax code actually works, which should be obvious to anyone who actually looks at it.... which certainly should be anyone who's going to participate in an anti-tax interview.
It turns out that the top marginal tax rate is never the tax rate actually paid, and it was intentionally designed that way. I'm often surprised that people who want to think they're "in the know" don't understand such a simple concept, nor give people basic credit for understanding such a simple concept; however, then i'm reminded of people like the dentist last year who (in an anti-tax interview) said they'd stop working right each year right before they made enough to be pushed into a higher tax bracket because they didn't want their rate going up and costing them a lot more money.... because they didn't understand difference either. As David Gerrold said: "common sense isn't."
It's all about the sulfur. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-do-volcanoes-affect-w&page=2
Ok, maybe not all.. there's those large parasols women were using in the 1880's that did a little.
Not really. I enlisted after college, i wasn't an officer; there is no brass on my shoulder, i worked for a living. It's a lot different enlisted than as an O, and i would imagine it's a bit different in NZ as opposed to the USA; then, of course, theirs the whole air force thing.... The army is always different than the 8-5 flyboys who play military during work hours.
Did you file the BR-K-7.200 in triplicate to have it returned? As for KP, been there, done that a couple times. With the outsourcing of pretty much everything, i'm surprised the still have it.
Clearly you've never been in the military. Military personnel do not have freedom of speech. You want an opinion? You will be issued on by your supply sgt.
We're both. See the post by NeutronCowboy clarifying basic political science for those who failed high school US history.