So far, many upgrades come around because the software company wants to push a different version onto the business, costing them another boatload of money. Unless that different version has something actually useful, why bother to spend the money?
Let me put it another way: How much more spectacularly superior is the spreadsheet now than it was in 1985?
Hmm... i thought the lesson to be learned was being about to take a broadside of nukes with minimal damage was good.... and that Gracie Park is just damn hot (and you can never, NEVER, have enough copies of her).
I'm sorry you seem to be incapable of understanding my basic point. I don't believe it was that my point was put for so obscurely that the normal person would have trouble discerning it, but rather you have some point you want to make that has little to no bearing on the point i made, you just needed a lead in.
Allow me to remake my point as succinctly as possible: We are a republic AND and democracy, and people who try to make the distinction usually have a very odd, and usually ignorant, reason for doing so.
That IS how we're designed. Whether it's working or not is another question. The system can't work when we have inside it a group of elected insurgents who's only goal is to destroy the federal government by any means available. The second that the line was states that someone wanted to shrink the federal government till it could be drown in a bathtub, that person should have been considered an enemy of this country. Instead, a radical fringe grew up around it, and has been trying to destroy the federal government since.
Can the system work in that atmosphere? No. The traitors to this country have to be dealt with, but won't happen until the fake "wave your flag on the 4th" patriots pull their heads out of their asses and understand that "destroying the country" is not the same as patriotism.
But, none of that was my point. My point was in response to someone, again, saying we're not a democracy, we're a republic (and said to enlighten the formation process, not what's actually happening right this minute); when in fact, we're both.
Pi is never wrong. Unless it's like strawberry glaze, but accidentally using strawberries that aren't ripe and still bitter... then it's just horrendously wrong.
This stupid argument.... again. Why is it people can't pass a simple civics class?
We are a democracy and a republic. We are not a direct democracy, we're a representative democracy, so no.... it's not mob rules, tyranny of the majority (you may be confusing us with Switzerland, or simply be confused for no reason). It can also be called a representative republic, as our president is elected and not a monarch (like in England).
Whenever this stupid argument comes up, i'm often humored by the split in terminology. Conservatives want to claim loudly we're a republic, not a democracy... somehow i'm guessing that this makes them think republicans are better than democrats... yet when push comes to shove, what conservatives really want is a direct democracy so they can continue the tyranny of the majority against gays getting married, women having the right (or not) to self determine their own medical situations, and pretty much every social issue; after all, "the people should be able to vote on that..." as they tend to say right after a judge throws out their discriminatory laws. THE only reason they think that is because they believe they're in the majority.
So, back to the stupid argument...yes, we're a republic...and YES, we're a democracy.
You can make a zipgun out of a ball point pen. Everyone has the ability to make a weapon; most people simply don't have the need, desire, or psychosis to do so.... and admittedly, many don't have the imagination for it either.
Wake me when Rockey Balboa (Sylvester Stallone... still) gets on the scene half way through the movie (not because the ship is too long, but because his walker doesn't work as well on the shag carpet mind-deck).
So what you're saying is... you don't have a fucking clue about history. I suggest you pull your head out of your ass long enough to learn a little, before proving to the world you are, indeed, a fucking idiot when you write stupid posts like what you just did.
Decent people think overthrowing a democratically elected, pro-west government, installing a ruthless dictator and training his hit squads to murder his opponents purely because he's easier to control than a freely elected government is NOT a good thing. Too bad the US did exactly that back in 1953. How were those mental fucking midgets to know that it would turn the country against the US, who they'd then end up kicking the hell out so they could establish a religious theocracy that views westerners as evil, and fund what we in the west consider terrorist groups. I mean hell, that would have taken all of a couple brain cells to have that amount of foresight.
Then again, if we empower some other ruthless dictator who hates the new religious theocracy that kicked our asses out after we fucked over their country, we can have him fight a proxy war. Too bad if he's a ruthless dictator killing people (just like the first one we empowered), he's our dictator.. again. Oh wait, he decides he doesn't need us anymore. Now you say we have to go kick his ass out, and we do it because we're "good" people.
Bull fucking shit.
Here's a clue, Rudy. They don't hate us because of our freedoms, they hate us because we've fucked them over every fucking chance we've gotten, and we're generally big fucking pricks. You want to blame someone.. blame the stupid motherfuckers who put those fucking dictators into power in the first place. Oh yeh, that's us in the US, isn't it.
...and now you want a pat on the back for removing the second dictator we empowered. There's not enough derogatory obscenities to adequately qualify what should be the response to that.
Which is really where their problem lies. If they had simply kept supporting XP, putting in some updates here and there, and kept charging the "new" price... people would be happy. Instead, they said we're not going to support it any more, and everyone would have to buy something new... then they put out complete and utter shit. The only reason a lot more people didn't drop windows all together was win7 wasn't the complete and utter pile of shit that vista was; but now we have... win8... which is more shit, piled higher and deeper. 3.2 was good, 95b was good, XP was good, win7 isn't bad.... the rest of the trash they've expected people to buy has been one type of feces after another. Until they get their heads around that, and start making consistently good products, they will suffer.
Actually, 2200-1600 years ago, and oral tradition for probably 600-700 years prior to that... after having plagiarized and stolen from Egyptian religions, which of course, were based on earlier Sumerian beliefs, which were most likely based on whatever preceded that in that general region of the world....and on... and on.. and on. Of course, that's ignoring all the rewrites of it from the last 1600 years.
It does. There's inherent inefficiency in most systems, and as they grow it becomes more pronounced. It isn't specific to spending other peoples money. The problem is corruption (in this instance), not only in the legal sense, but in the purpose sense.
Part of that is the world changing, and this country adapting to that change; that's inevitable as time doesn't stand still. It's how we adapt that matters. When the constitution was written, the founders cautioned against forming liaisons with other countries; eschewed the power of corporations; and specifically limited our military. Those have all been turned on their heads in today's world. We're no longer a fairly neutral nation, but one that attempts to have a global military empire... for lack of better words. 1 out of 3 dollars we spend in for "national defense." We spend money in the wrong place, and often do not spend in the right places, and much of that is because of the twisted mentality of our elected officials who seldom seem to be working for the people of the country, and more often for the corporations.
Our government, and country, needs a good swift kick in the pants. That includes the people who don't seem to give a damn about this country. To many want all the rights and benefits, and none of the responsibilities, and that me-first asshatery only seems to be growing as more people become less educated.
Setting up stupid straw men arguments gets you no where, except looking stupid. This isn't 250,000 years ago, or 5,000 years ago. In those times there was no dioxin, and no companies more than willing to bury it in your back yard just to save themselves a penny. There were no industries using carcinogens and poisons that knowingly contaminated your food, water and air. So you didn't forget, you just want to make a stupid argument... seemingly forgetting what year it is right now.
You damn right i use the word fuck. People like you, who are so entrenched in their fucking ideology that they twist logic into a pretzel to fit their bullshit should bring out a few fucks from a lot more people, then maybe you wouldn't try to be as deceptive and disingenuous as you try to be. I find it appalling that there seems to be an endless supply of self-serving asshats that apparently don't have the brain capacity to learn anything, ever. It's like constantly being zerged by braindead numbnuts.
You live in society. You have a rights and benefits from that society. The problem is the weak worthless fucks that don't want any of the responsibilities that go with those rights and benefits. Taxes aren't "forced stealing," they're the payment that everyone makes to live in the society that THEY GAIN A WHOLE FUCKING LOT FROM. I take it you're one of those that would prefer to simply be a thief than to live up to the responsibilities.
Pro-tip for you: you wouldn't have jack shit if you hadn't been sucking at the teat of this country since before you were born.
Cutting government spending is also an investment into future generations.
Look at it this way... that money being taken from you isn't taxes, it's YOU paying for all the benefits YOU use.
Now look who's being fucking stupid. Call his bluff. Cut the taxes and the benefits. Then when he's doing really well despite life's adversities, you can tell him "I told you so".
...which only shows that you're just like the AC. Fine, let him move off the grid... no electricity, no phone, no roads, no tv, no fresh water unless he goes down to the stream, no medical services, no police, no firefighters, no military protections...and if he's doing just as good as he is now with all that, then the Unibomber has found his long lost twin. Oh wait, even the Unibomber used roadways, and the postal service.... and product safety.
The biggest threat to our society isn't terrorists, or the national debt, it's fucking clueless asshats who can't think more than it takes to regurgitate a bumper sticker. People like you piss on every American who's come before that wanted this country to succeed, all because of stupid fucking ideology. Your trickle down economics is and was bullshith; a lie, and only mental midgets still believe that fucking crap.
From before the day you were born YOU have used services and gained benefits from the government. You breath clean air, drink clean water, eat safe food, have protection in the form of police, fire fighters and the military. Consumer products are monitored for safety which helps keep you alive every day. You benefit from a power grid, communications, and transportation systems.
Every generation reinvests into future generations. About 30 years ago some worthless fuck decided he'd lie to the mentally ignorant, and say that government was always the problem. Those worthless fucks now think that they don't need a government, mostly because they're too fucking stupid to understand all the benefits they use EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY from the government.
I'm sorry you're too fucking stupid to understand that, so i'll help you put: Look at it this way... that money being taken from you isn't taxes, it's YOU paying for all the benefits YOU use. Or would you prefer to be fucking stupid AND a thief?
Too many people who blame government for everything don't look at the simple point that issues like this are usually mistakes made by the vendors who sell shoddy crap to the government. It's a lot like blaming government for the fraud in medicare, when it's actually the doctors committing fraud, and you don't hear about it until the government catches the criminal.
Government is always the problem....when you have idiots elected to office who intentionally try to fuck up the government from within.
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First: Give the business a reason to upgrade.
So far, many upgrades come around because the software company wants to push a different version onto the business, costing them another boatload of money. Unless that different version has something actually useful, why bother to spend the money?
Let me put it another way: How much more spectacularly superior is the spreadsheet now than it was in 1985?
Hmm... i thought the lesson to be learned was being about to take a broadside of nukes with minimal damage was good.... and that Gracie Park is just damn hot (and you can never, NEVER, have enough copies of her).
Get off my lawn!!
I'm sorry you seem to be incapable of understanding my basic point. I don't believe it was that my point was put for so obscurely that the normal person would have trouble discerning it, but rather you have some point you want to make that has little to no bearing on the point i made, you just needed a lead in.
Allow me to remake my point as succinctly as possible: We are a republic AND and democracy, and people who try to make the distinction usually have a very odd, and usually ignorant, reason for doing so.
That IS how we're designed. Whether it's working or not is another question. The system can't work when we have inside it a group of elected insurgents who's only goal is to destroy the federal government by any means available. The second that the line was states that someone wanted to shrink the federal government till it could be drown in a bathtub, that person should have been considered an enemy of this country. Instead, a radical fringe grew up around it, and has been trying to destroy the federal government since.
Can the system work in that atmosphere? No. The traitors to this country have to be dealt with, but won't happen until the fake "wave your flag on the 4th" patriots pull their heads out of their asses and understand that "destroying the country" is not the same as patriotism.
But, none of that was my point. My point was in response to someone, again, saying we're not a democracy, we're a republic (and said to enlighten the formation process, not what's actually happening right this minute); when in fact, we're both.
Pi is never wrong. Unless it's like strawberry glaze, but accidentally using strawberries that aren't ripe and still bitter... then it's just horrendously wrong.
This stupid argument.... again. Why is it people can't pass a simple civics class?
We are a democracy and a republic. We are not a direct democracy, we're a representative democracy, so no.... it's not mob rules, tyranny of the majority (you may be confusing us with Switzerland, or simply be confused for no reason). It can also be called a representative republic, as our president is elected and not a monarch (like in England).
Whenever this stupid argument comes up, i'm often humored by the split in terminology. Conservatives want to claim loudly we're a republic, not a democracy... somehow i'm guessing that this makes them think republicans are better than democrats... yet when push comes to shove, what conservatives really want is a direct democracy so they can continue the tyranny of the majority against gays getting married, women having the right (or not) to self determine their own medical situations, and pretty much every social issue; after all, "the people should be able to vote on that..." as they tend to say right after a judge throws out their discriminatory laws. THE only reason they think that is because they believe they're in the majority.
So, back to the stupid argument...yes, we're a republic...and YES, we're a democracy.
In the late 70's it was Cranial/Rectal Inversion Syndrome.
No.
You can make a zipgun out of a ball point pen. Everyone has the ability to make a weapon; most people simply don't have the need, desire, or psychosis to do so.... and admittedly, many don't have the imagination for it either.
Peta-burro-hectares by centon.
Wake me when Rockey Balboa (Sylvester Stallone... still) gets on the scene half way through the movie (not because the ship is too long, but because his walker doesn't work as well on the shag carpet mind-deck).
So what you're saying is... you don't have a fucking clue about history. I suggest you pull your head out of your ass long enough to learn a little, before proving to the world you are, indeed, a fucking idiot when you write stupid posts like what you just did.
Decent people think overthrowing a democratically elected, pro-west government, installing a ruthless dictator and training his hit squads to murder his opponents purely because he's easier to control than a freely elected government is NOT a good thing. Too bad the US did exactly that back in 1953. How were those mental fucking midgets to know that it would turn the country against the US, who they'd then end up kicking the hell out so they could establish a religious theocracy that views westerners as evil, and fund what we in the west consider terrorist groups. I mean hell, that would have taken all of a couple brain cells to have that amount of foresight.
...and now you want a pat on the back for removing the second dictator we empowered. There's not enough derogatory obscenities to adequately qualify what should be the response to that.
Then again, if we empower some other ruthless dictator who hates the new religious theocracy that kicked our asses out after we fucked over their country, we can have him fight a proxy war. Too bad if he's a ruthless dictator killing people (just like the first one we empowered), he's our dictator.. again. Oh wait, he decides he doesn't need us anymore. Now you say we have to go kick his ass out, and we do it because we're "good" people.
Bull fucking shit.
Here's a clue, Rudy. They don't hate us because of our freedoms, they hate us because we've fucked them over every fucking chance we've gotten, and we're generally big fucking pricks. You want to blame someone.. blame the stupid motherfuckers who put those fucking dictators into power in the first place. Oh yeh, that's us in the US, isn't it.
If i had mod points i wouldn't know whether to mod you "funny" or "insightful," but i'm leaning much more towards "insightful."
Which is really where their problem lies. If they had simply kept supporting XP, putting in some updates here and there, and kept charging the "new" price... people would be happy. Instead, they said we're not going to support it any more, and everyone would have to buy something new... then they put out complete and utter shit. The only reason a lot more people didn't drop windows all together was win7 wasn't the complete and utter pile of shit that vista was; but now we have... win8... which is more shit, piled higher and deeper. 3.2 was good, 95b was good, XP was good, win7 isn't bad.... the rest of the trash they've expected people to buy has been one type of feces after another. Until they get their heads around that, and start making consistently good products, they will suffer.
....Hollywood could come up with.
I bet he regrets his last trip up to the hunting lodge on that big old block of ice on the mountain more.
Stripes? Stripes!!! We don't need no stinking stripes. We need FLAMES!!!!
...and a blower...
http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/10/17/pro-street-pi-1/
Actually, 2200-1600 years ago, and oral tradition for probably 600-700 years prior to that... after having plagiarized and stolen from Egyptian religions, which of course, were based on earlier Sumerian beliefs, which were most likely based on whatever preceded that in that general region of the world....and on... and on.. and on. Of course, that's ignoring all the rewrites of it from the last 1600 years.
It does. There's inherent inefficiency in most systems, and as they grow it becomes more pronounced. It isn't specific to spending other peoples money. The problem is corruption (in this instance), not only in the legal sense, but in the purpose sense.
Part of that is the world changing, and this country adapting to that change; that's inevitable as time doesn't stand still. It's how we adapt that matters. When the constitution was written, the founders cautioned against forming liaisons with other countries; eschewed the power of corporations; and specifically limited our military. Those have all been turned on their heads in today's world. We're no longer a fairly neutral nation, but one that attempts to have a global military empire... for lack of better words. 1 out of 3 dollars we spend in for "national defense." We spend money in the wrong place, and often do not spend in the right places, and much of that is because of the twisted mentality of our elected officials who seldom seem to be working for the people of the country, and more often for the corporations.
Our government, and country, needs a good swift kick in the pants. That includes the people who don't seem to give a damn about this country. To many want all the rights and benefits, and none of the responsibilities, and that me-first asshatery only seems to be growing as more people become less educated.
Really? 1 out of 3 dollars spent is for "national defense." 33% is a pretty big "small" portion right off that bat.
...and you might want to look up ad hominem.
Setting up stupid straw men arguments gets you no where, except looking stupid. This isn't 250,000 years ago, or 5,000 years ago. In those times there was no dioxin, and no companies more than willing to bury it in your back yard just to save themselves a penny. There were no industries using carcinogens and poisons that knowingly contaminated your food, water and air. So you didn't forget, you just want to make a stupid argument... seemingly forgetting what year it is right now.
You damn right i use the word fuck. People like you, who are so entrenched in their fucking ideology that they twist logic into a pretzel to fit their bullshit should bring out a few fucks from a lot more people, then maybe you wouldn't try to be as deceptive and disingenuous as you try to be. I find it appalling that there seems to be an endless supply of self-serving asshats that apparently don't have the brain capacity to learn anything, ever. It's like constantly being zerged by braindead numbnuts.
You live in society. You have a rights and benefits from that society. The problem is the weak worthless fucks that don't want any of the responsibilities that go with those rights and benefits. Taxes aren't "forced stealing," they're the payment that everyone makes to live in the society that THEY GAIN A WHOLE FUCKING LOT FROM. I take it you're one of those that would prefer to simply be a thief than to live up to the responsibilities.
Pro-tip for you: you wouldn't have jack shit if you hadn't been sucking at the teat of this country since before you were born.
Cutting government spending is also an investment into future generations.
Look at it this way... that money being taken from you isn't taxes, it's YOU paying for all the benefits YOU use.
Now look who's being fucking stupid. Call his bluff. Cut the taxes and the benefits. Then when he's doing really well despite life's adversities, you can tell him "I told you so".
The biggest threat to our society isn't terrorists, or the national debt, it's fucking clueless asshats who can't think more than it takes to regurgitate a bumper sticker. People like you piss on every American who's come before that wanted this country to succeed, all because of stupid fucking ideology. Your trickle down economics is and was bullshith; a lie, and only mental midgets still believe that fucking crap.
From before the day you were born YOU have used services and gained benefits from the government. You breath clean air, drink clean water, eat safe food, have protection in the form of police, fire fighters and the military. Consumer products are monitored for safety which helps keep you alive every day. You benefit from a power grid, communications, and transportation systems.
Every generation reinvests into future generations. About 30 years ago some worthless fuck decided he'd lie to the mentally ignorant, and say that government was always the problem. Those worthless fucks now think that they don't need a government, mostly because they're too fucking stupid to understand all the benefits they use EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY from the government.
I'm sorry you're too fucking stupid to understand that, so i'll help you put: Look at it this way... that money being taken from you isn't taxes, it's YOU paying for all the benefits YOU use. Or would you prefer to be fucking stupid AND a thief?
...and... did the GSA design the program? No.
Too many people who blame government for everything don't look at the simple point that issues like this are usually mistakes made by the vendors who sell shoddy crap to the government. It's a lot like blaming government for the fraud in medicare, when it's actually the doctors committing fraud, and you don't hear about it until the government catches the criminal.
Government is always the problem....when you have idiots elected to office who intentionally try to fuck up the government from within.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-s-lofgren/scientology-for-rednecks_b_2707087.html