I don't think there is fault involved. He's just saying someone paid for a license and when you go home the computer at work isn't being used. You could bring your work computer home with you, but if it's not convienent who really gives a crap.
It's much more simple than that. Just take the meter off, flip it upside down and stick it back on. It will run backward. Flip back when they come to read it.
You are making this our problem, so we are GOING to make it yours, old man. You do realize this old man is a self described eco friend. The fact that he is old and you are young means he's probably done more for the effort than you. (I'm not sure if the tone of your post is even serious)
Basically, I think international solidarity on this issue is impossible to achieve. Even if the US makes it their official position to stop global warming and implements a laundry list of regs. Is it really in every countries best interest to stop global warming? I don't think it is. Some countries would benifit from a more temperate climate if they are currently cold. Some countries would benefit from an economic advantage once other countries handicap themselves with regulations. Even today EU steel producers are feeling the pressure with their carbon quotas. In the future there will be even more demand for materials and goods which require lots of energy to produce and the most competative producers will be in the countries that operate freely.
I'm guessing you wanted to find reasons to hate Al Gore. Me, I was looking for solid evidence that atmospheric CO2 levels were really an issue. I don't hate gore, I was responding because a prior post was pointing out how elementary the movie was. Everyone watching who was looking for solid evidence like you were also got a healthy dose of gore's self serving promotion. His publicist was probably thrilled to get his Q score up by dishing out the story about his kid and how he's a good ol boy who raised angus. Preying on people's sympathies regardless of how valid your arguements are is something I don't like.
That movie was soooooooooo good, I cried when Gores kid got hit by a car. That was soooooo sad. Gore must be a really good father, the way he stayed at the hospital. That really changed my mind on the issue of global warming, I'm behind Gore 100% on this issue. Barf!
I get what you're saying, but there's some fundemental assumptions that I don't agree with. First, the idea of always erring on the side of caution sounds good at face value. But I value risk taking, not necessarily smoking, but all the technology, luxuries, health etc we enjoy is due to risk takers, not those who did what someone else told them to do in order to play it safe. I'd rather have our current level of civilization and global warming than having neither.
The 2nd assumption is that people making sacrifices will help global warming. If I change my lifestyle to be 100% green it will have zero effect on global warming. Even if you can get entire nations to do so, other nations will take advantage of all that coal and be happy to sell you all the great stuff they made with it.
You do realize issuing fines is extremely lucrative. I don't know what you consider expensive, but paying meter maids full time does not make issuing parking tickets uneconomical.
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master." -George Washington
The cameras won't sacrifice liberties, sadly those liberties have already been sacrificed. The cameras will just do a great job cracking down on those trying to ignore the mommy/daddy state. It will make a great news story when they catch a real criminal but most of the time they will be used to give citations to people drinking a beer on the beach, riding a bike without a helmet, smoking, crossing the street when the light is green and the red hand is blinking. I'm certain just about everyone could be cited for something while driving or walking around town during their everyday routine. The fact that you don't get cited today is not because government is reasonable, it is because they don't have the tools to get a really good grip on you.
Well said. Regardless of whether humans cause global warming or not, I'm sick of the arguement being so heavily saturated with "you should beleive it because so many people with fancy titles beleive it." Ugh. That usually raises a red flag. Usually in life, when people have to coax you to trust them, then you shouldn't.
Not doing evil to prevent someone else from doing evil is not evil.
Perhaps google should censor these groups that preach intolerance, that is intolerance of blogs that contain intolerance.
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I don't think there is fault involved. He's just saying someone paid for a license and when you go home the computer at work isn't being used. You could bring your work computer home with you, but if it's not convienent who really gives a crap.
It's much more simple than that. Just take the meter off, flip it upside down and stick it back on. It will run backward. Flip back when they come to read it.
Sure they will. Price goes up, people consume less. Happens all the time.
Basically, I think international solidarity on this issue is impossible to achieve. Even if the US makes it their official position to stop global warming and implements a laundry list of regs. Is it really in every countries best interest to stop global warming? I don't think it is. Some countries would benifit from a more temperate climate if they are currently cold. Some countries would benefit from an economic advantage once other countries handicap themselves with regulations. Even today EU steel producers are feeling the pressure with their carbon quotas. In the future there will be even more demand for materials and goods which require lots of energy to produce and the most competative producers will be in the countries that operate freely.
That movie was soooooooooo good, I cried when Gores kid got hit by a car. That was soooooo sad. Gore must be a really good father, the way he stayed at the hospital. That really changed my mind on the issue of global warming, I'm behind Gore 100% on this issue. Barf!
I get what you're saying, but there's some fundemental assumptions that I don't agree with. First, the idea of always erring on the side of caution sounds good at face value. But I value risk taking, not necessarily smoking, but all the technology, luxuries, health etc we enjoy is due to risk takers, not those who did what someone else told them to do in order to play it safe. I'd rather have our current level of civilization and global warming than having neither. The 2nd assumption is that people making sacrifices will help global warming. If I change my lifestyle to be 100% green it will have zero effect on global warming. Even if you can get entire nations to do so, other nations will take advantage of all that coal and be happy to sell you all the great stuff they made with it.
I thought they were talking about the impending ice age 20 years ago.
You do realize issuing fines is extremely lucrative. I don't know what you consider expensive, but paying meter maids full time does not make issuing parking tickets uneconomical.
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master." -George Washington The cameras won't sacrifice liberties, sadly those liberties have already been sacrificed. The cameras will just do a great job cracking down on those trying to ignore the mommy/daddy state. It will make a great news story when they catch a real criminal but most of the time they will be used to give citations to people drinking a beer on the beach, riding a bike without a helmet, smoking, crossing the street when the light is green and the red hand is blinking. I'm certain just about everyone could be cited for something while driving or walking around town during their everyday routine. The fact that you don't get cited today is not because government is reasonable, it is because they don't have the tools to get a really good grip on you.
Missed the point my friend. I fear you will become victum of some HMO bean counters in the future since you are so trusting.
Well said. Regardless of whether humans cause global warming or not, I'm sick of the arguement being so heavily saturated with "you should beleive it because so many people with fancy titles beleive it." Ugh. That usually raises a red flag. Usually in life, when people have to coax you to trust them, then you shouldn't.
Not doing evil to prevent someone else from doing evil is not evil. Perhaps google should censor these groups that preach intolerance, that is intolerance of blogs that contain intolerance.