Actually, your analogy is flawed.
Downloading music is more like walking over to a barbershop, taking notes on the hairstyle of a person walking out the door, then going home and giving yourself an identical haircut.
Uploading is walking out of the barbershop after you've purchased a haircut, and screaming "ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK AT MY HAIRCUT IS WELCOME TO".
I know it doesn't seem like it, but most of us feel the same way over here.
Apparently though, the ones with mod points are the ones that disagree with me. (Current score: -1 flamebait)
Sweet. Now that they've got communication, lets get some health infrastructure and good food/water going over there. The United States of America is the richest country on the god-damned planet, there's gotta be more we can do to positively contribute to the third world.
I suggest that we immediately stop toppling governments. The US political system seems to do a lot of that, and not much good ever seems to happen. Unless you like it when nuns die, in which case, more power to ya.
I work on the factory floor of a screen printing company, and I always get a kick out of seeing the OO.o icon in the start menu on the factory computers.
Apparently my employers didn't want to shell out the license fees to microsoft for 80+ computers so that they could use Word maybe once or twice a week.
You want a government obsessed with keeping secrets from its people? I hear North Korea is looking for sympathetic American people to use for propoganda, maybe you should go there and let us over here have some measure of transparency in our government.
I'm goddamn thankful that this was leaked, I personally like to know where my tax dollars are going.
You're right though, the level of treason in Washington is unacceptably high, but it's the corrupt politicians selling us out for money and power, not the aides leaking information like this, who are the traitors to the American people.
Yeah, lets look at the number of american college educated terrorists versus the number of poor non-educated terrorists. Then lets add religion into the picture, and ask ourselves why we aren't watching rich white, christian churches for signs of terrorist activity.
Ahhh... judge the whole by a single part. I'm not going to bother posting a rebuttal, because Scott Adams does an excellent job in The Joy of Work. I suggest you read it for no other reason that it might help you with your lack of a sense of humor.
Even anarchists can't agree on what "type" of anarchy is best. How would propose these differences in belief are settled? So since extreme republicans and extreme democrats differ on what a government should do, yet both subscribe to some form of representative democracy, democracy itself is a "utopian fairytale"?
Hey, I'm just checking, but did you see the sibling post to this where I restated my opinion? Cause what you're saying doesn't really seem to fit in with my second comment. Curse the/.-inability to edit comments, even though I understand and support their reasoning behind the decision.
Ahh yes, condescension, great way to make your point.
The scenario you described would be a straw man because it's a very stupid position to be in: driving on government created, owned, and patrolled roads when one doesn't acknowledge the government? Yeah right. You created, then showed the absurdity of, something that I had never argued for. Seems like that's the very definition of a straw man.
I have been trolled... etc.
Nice, but wrong.
The fact that the scenario that you imagined is a strawman. You remind me of the self-important people I knew in college, swaggering around making snide comments, without making any effort to actually learn anything.
... and gets shot.
Note to guv-men: as I'm still a citizen of the US, I'm not actually advocating cop-killing. Always obey the boys in blue, blah, blah, blah.
First: are you sure that "Tautology" is the right word? Neither the definition having to with rhetoric, nor the one about logic seem to fit.
Second: Ok, but then no one else can complain if I kill that person for trying to take tax money, or for trying to arrest me for drinking, since they weren't dealing with someone who was participating in their government.
Yes. How dare anyone wish to not be subject to laws to which I don't consent.
I imagine it more like this:
You're stopped for speeding and claim not to subscribe to speeding laws. Officer says "ok" and deports you back to your house/own country/whatever from which you can never leave without applying for a visa.
Note that that isn't any sort of realistic scenario, but you didn't really use one either, so I'm not going to bother.
I'll bite. It seems to be you who doesn't seem to be sufficiently educated in the subject.
I believe in the supreme sovereignty of individuals, which includes the right to participate in voluntary organization and governance. I'd be perfectly happy with a government, as long as participation wouldn't be mandatory.
And that's it. If you have a better word than Anarchism for what this is, I'd be glad to hear it.
Sorry, did a bad job of explaining. Ignore my other response.
I believe that in order for a law or custom to be just, every member of the population must agree that it is fair. Notice that I say nothing about cases of upholding the law... for me at least, that's much more of a gray area, one which I'll freely admit, I have yet to come to any sort of firm conclusion on.
According to their system of justice? Yes - *if* that is really the belief of *every* person who takes part in that system. But if they stone someone who believes that it's not ok to stone someone for being gay? Then my system of justice says that it's perfectly ok for me to rain down my own justice on them. That isn't to say that I absolutely am going to, just that I *could*.
Yes, it's a little known fact that all the suicide bombers in the world have all had Philosophy degrees.
Grow up man, terrorists come from anywhere, the world isn't as black and white as you seem to think.
I'd trust the guys writing this so-called "report" more if those so-called "peace and justice organizations" weren't fronts for communist groups (ANSWER, International Socialist Workers Party, etc), anarchist groups That's interesting. You're implying that anarchists can't want peace or justice?
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Yarrr, ye be thinkin so, but ye be wrong as a nor'easter in Botany Bay!
Actually, your analogy is flawed. Downloading music is more like walking over to a barbershop, taking notes on the hairstyle of a person walking out the door, then going home and giving yourself an identical haircut. Uploading is walking out of the barbershop after you've purchased a haircut, and screaming "ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK AT MY HAIRCUT IS WELCOME TO".
Hahah, the joke's on them! I have smelly feet!
I know it doesn't seem like it, but most of us feel the same way over here. Apparently though, the ones with mod points are the ones that disagree with me. (Current score: -1 flamebait)
Sweet. Now that they've got communication, lets get some health infrastructure and good food/water going over there. The United States of America is the richest country on the god-damned planet, there's gotta be more we can do to positively contribute to the third world. I suggest that we immediately stop toppling governments. The US political system seems to do a lot of that, and not much good ever seems to happen. Unless you like it when nuns die, in which case, more power to ya.
I work on the factory floor of a screen printing company, and I always get a kick out of seeing the OO.o icon in the start menu on the factory computers. Apparently my employers didn't want to shell out the license fees to microsoft for 80+ computers so that they could use Word maybe once or twice a week.
Yeah, I caught that. I'm just saying that he's wrong.
You want a government obsessed with keeping secrets from its people? I hear North Korea is looking for sympathetic American people to use for propoganda, maybe you should go there and let us over here have some measure of transparency in our government. I'm goddamn thankful that this was leaked, I personally like to know where my tax dollars are going. You're right though, the level of treason in Washington is unacceptably high, but it's the corrupt politicians selling us out for money and power, not the aides leaking information like this, who are the traitors to the American people.
Yeah, lets look at the number of american college educated terrorists versus the number of poor non-educated terrorists. Then lets add religion into the picture, and ask ourselves why we aren't watching rich white, christian churches for signs of terrorist activity.
Ahhh... judge the whole by a single part. I'm not going to bother posting a rebuttal, because Scott Adams does an excellent job in The Joy of Work. I suggest you read it for no other reason that it might help you with your lack of a sense of humor.
Hey, I'm just checking, but did you see the sibling post to this where I restated my opinion? Cause what you're saying doesn't really seem to fit in with my second comment. Curse the /.-inability to edit comments, even though I understand and support their reasoning behind the decision.
Ahh yes, condescension, great way to make your point. The scenario you described would be a straw man because it's a very stupid position to be in: driving on government created, owned, and patrolled roads when one doesn't acknowledge the government? Yeah right. You created, then showed the absurdity of, something that I had never argued for. Seems like that's the very definition of a straw man. I have been trolled... etc.
Nice, but wrong. The fact that the scenario that you imagined is a strawman. You remind me of the self-important people I knew in college, swaggering around making snide comments, without making any effort to actually learn anything.
...arrests you anyway...
... and gets shot. Note to guv-men: as I'm still a citizen of the US, I'm not actually advocating cop-killing. Always obey the boys in blue, blah, blah, blah.First: are you sure that "Tautology" is the right word? Neither the definition having to with rhetoric, nor the one about logic seem to fit. Second: Ok, but then no one else can complain if I kill that person for trying to take tax money, or for trying to arrest me for drinking, since they weren't dealing with someone who was participating in their government.
Yes. How dare anyone wish to not be subject to laws to which I don't consent. I imagine it more like this: You're stopped for speeding and claim not to subscribe to speeding laws. Officer says "ok" and deports you back to your house/own country/whatever from which you can never leave without applying for a visa. Note that that isn't any sort of realistic scenario, but you didn't really use one either, so I'm not going to bother.
I'll bite. It seems to be you who doesn't seem to be sufficiently educated in the subject. I believe in the supreme sovereignty of individuals, which includes the right to participate in voluntary organization and governance. I'd be perfectly happy with a government, as long as participation wouldn't be mandatory. And that's it. If you have a better word than Anarchism for what this is, I'd be glad to hear it.
Sorry, did a bad job of explaining. Ignore my other response. I believe that in order for a law or custom to be just, every member of the population must agree that it is fair. Notice that I say nothing about cases of upholding the law... for me at least, that's much more of a gray area, one which I'll freely admit, I have yet to come to any sort of firm conclusion on.
According to their system of justice? Yes - *if* that is really the belief of *every* person who takes part in that system. But if they stone someone who believes that it's not ok to stone someone for being gay? Then my system of justice says that it's perfectly ok for me to rain down my own justice on them. That isn't to say that I absolutely am going to, just that I *could*.
Surprise, I feel the same way. And guess what, my political views seem to be best defined as Anarchist.
Yes, it's a little known fact that all the suicide bombers in the world have all had Philosophy degrees. Grow up man, terrorists come from anywhere, the world isn't as black and white as you seem to think.
Tell me, what is *your* definition of justice? And where does it come from?