> [...] Take a look at the latest tpc-c scores.
> [...] Notice that Sun doesn't even make the list. Not even their super-fantabulous E15K!
The Sparc architecture is an open standard. Fujitsu has a long tradition of taking it to the max, though at a steep price.
This is similar to the x86 area. The availability of top-notch systems from IBM or HP does not hurt Dell,
it helps them. Customers like to know that there
is an enhancement to their el-cheapo equipment.
If they feel like solving problems by money, they can.
> [...] If you couple those two factors, it leaves very little room for policy solutions.
> So what could US Steel have done? What can it possibly do now?
Quality and Productivity.
That's what everybody else is doing.
Your post is 100 % red blooded American attitude.
The US has never understood the concept of efficiency. And most of the time they are even too autistic to just copy the solution from others.
Western Europe and Japan face the very same problem since the 70s. One answer is automization and education. Let machines do all the work; educate workers to be operators. And in most cases high-tech methods of production lead to higher quality products. Spectacular examples are high-speed railways and the automative industry.
The industry in the civilized world answered the challenge of leight-weight materials like aluminum or carbon fiber with high-quality steel that can be rolled thiner.
> But wait, If the police officer has his pda or what ever to automaticaly take by p2p from yours,
> that makes him part of the crime and it is illegal for him to give you a ticket or court order unless
> their was a witness to the crime that had no part in it.
Sow how do you think undercover cops get by?
Female officers posing as prostitutes are subject of the crime, not really witnesses. Though they are not allowed to encourage criminal activities, they dress in a way that lets little doubt about their supposed profession.
An undercover agent of a P2P-department would provide a directory listing of popular titles, without even having the stuff. Trying to download would suffice to be a crime.
Similar to current practice in narcotics. It doesn't matter whether someone sells you baking powder at a steep price. If you are convinced that you are really buying cocaine then you are committing a crime.
> Why do I have to hide it?
> Am I supose to be ashamed of it?
This will be the natural defense of the copyright industry. Outlaw file sharing, just like prostitution is illegal in an amazing number of places. Can you imagine undercover cops trying to persuade people into logging onto their devices?
A new instance in Oracle 8.1.x is created with two administrative accounts, having fixed passwords.
At the end of the procedure you get a very clear warning about that.
And then one of those password is "change_on_install".
But I actually encountered people who ignored that all.
Install everything, start everything. If you ommit something the application might not work, and we have no time to find the exact cause.
Setup machines now, attach to the net immediately, configure afterwards.
The problem is, neither management nor customer give a shit about security and efficiency.
Need more than 512 MB to drive a trivial database just because you installed every service you could find? No problem, hardware is cheaper than man-time.
Catching every worm ever written, just two houres after it was released? Well, that damned script kiddies should get the rope. If it were not for them, we would have no problems.
The admin is definitely the wrong place to start. It's those who give the orders.
Killing the enemy solves the problem only if none are left. If you stop short of a clean-cut genocide you have to make some prosperous peace afterwards or the thing will start again a generation later.
WW2 was possible because of the merciless conditions after WW1. OTOH germans are reliable allies for the last 60 years because of American economic aid.
On the same scale, Iraq is an American disaster. There still is no McDonalds in Bagdad, so these guys still have nothing to lose.
I think the OP meant that Linux is the youngest contestant. NT was released after Kernel 1.0, but development started well in the 80s.
> The Linux kernel is more than 10 years old and it still
> has a toy-VM, toy-filesystem(ext2fs) and toy-scheduler.
A toy compared to what? BSD? Commercial Unices?
Anyway, there is a lot of activity regarding the file system issue. reiserfs is part of the official kernel since 2.4.2. sgi released version 1.0 of their port of xfs port. And IBM is still working on jfs.
Hardware vendors have discovered that Linux can be used to outsource OS development.
> [...] In real life, someone building a trojan will either reboot
> the box to his own OS or circumvent NT keyboard handling
> (which can't be that hard)
You need a customized keyboard device driver.
And all I heard is that writing device drivers is rather difficult under NT.
--
> Apt does MD5 checksums before downloading anything.
What does that help?
You can use md5sum to check whether your file got corrupted over the wire.
But that does not verify the identity of the site you are downloading from.
A popular solutions of this is asymetric encryption via pgp/gpg or the host-key of ssh.
> Yup! And therefore, the sole cause for Microsoft holding a monopoly today is NOT
> Microsoft, but the same ubergeeks and uberhackers who refuse to make,
> let alone allow Linux to be a user friendly OS...
Microsoft won the battle among closed-source vendors.
That means Apple, Digital Research, IBM & Novell lost the race for monopoly.
This is just the way capitalism works.
And if RMS had not changed the rules with his GPL there would really be nothing we could do about it.
> The only reason Linux has the professional level of respect
> that it does, is that it's a viable alternative to other flavors of *nix,
> which many professional IT and engineers are already familiar with,
I personally encountered Solaris later on during University.
And during the course the people unfamiliar to Linux fled to NT as fast as they could.
It's really the other way round: Without the Linux phenomenon overall Unix knowledge would be diminishing fast.
I bet most poeple won't get any output.
There is a better way to prove this.
root@e6281:~# find/usr/src/linux/ -name '*.c' | xargs grep -i Caldera /usr/src/linux/net/ipx/af_ipx.c: * Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc.
/usr/src/linux/net/ipx/af_ipx.c: * Neither Greg Page nor Caldera, Inc. admit liability nor provide
/usr/src/linux/net/ipx/af_ipx.c: printk(KERN_INFO "IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc.\n");
/usr/src/linux/net/ipx/af_spx.c: * Jim Freeman
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/slip.c: * from Jim Freeman's
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/tlan.c: * (C) 1997-1998 Caldera, Inc.
/usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/advansys.c: Erik Ratcliffe has done testing of the
/usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/advansys.c: AdvanSys driver in the Caldera releases.
/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/kernel/smp.c: * Supported by Caldera http://www.caldera.com.
> Sorry - my keyboard can't product an umlaut without copying one from a previous post.
That's not the correct way to produce HTML, anyway.
To get an ü you write ü
ö is ö
Uppercase letters are written like this: Ä = Ä
Another important one is ß = ß
I have no problem watching Tarantino in German translation. If you can't get the meaning through to another language it is probably a poem.
If not, well, who cares. German literature is completely meaningless in international comparison because they are basically just old farts complaining about incompetent readers.
> Stupidity and ignorance are well spread among humans,
> it is not something that is purely American.
You give some good reasons why Americans might by stupid. But I see no argument why they should not be.
My experience with U.S. people is that their horizon is very limited. They just can't imagine that there may be more than one truth.
Of course there are also lot of bright U.S.-Americans. Those that actually crossed the border (without falling off flat earth). Anyway, discussing this on Slashdot is a bit like preaching to the choir.
> [...] China will overtake the US in this sense (in total, not per capita) some time in the next 20 years [...]
Sure.
In the 60s quite a lot of dreamers thought that Africa will overtake the world. A young, dynamic nation, no longer restricted by imperialism...
Other bets were India, the largest Democracy of the world. Or Europe, united in peace again. Heck, some braindead even had fears that Germany would do something silly again after collapse of Communism.
Chinese people make up about 15 % of world population, with a India a close second. So how do you make trade with all of Asia? For sure not by talking Chinese to Japanese, Vietnamese or Indonesians.
> Perhaps it's time we admit that the North American continent isn't the center of the planet.
100 % agreement on that. But then I'm European...
Anyway, the success of English is no longer dependent on the behaviour of the U.S.
There is just no suitable alternative.
Actually a majority of people on the planet try to ignore this reality. But since they cannot find agreement amongst themselves this will lead to nothing.
Chinese people will rather learn Klingon than Hindu/Urdu, and vice versa. By measure of speakers French is meaningless compared to Spanish, but no follower of Grand Nation will ever admit that.
> [...] > I suggest you Germans need a more positive connotation for 4/20. Agreed. This political correctness stuff brings us nowhere. For example it is not possible to have a license plate "ns" round here (even if you just mean Netscape). Not to mention SSL and SSH.
> Happy 4/20, everyone! What is that supposed to mean? That site is full of that. Do you know that April, 20th, is Adolf Hitler's Birthday? Here in German speaking Europe this day is associated with Neo-Nazi parades and the like.
Using applications provided by some unknown site on the other site of the globe will never become a serious alternative. Security issues beside, what if that other machine broke down in the middle of your work? Or if the vendor just goes broke?
OTOH is the possibility to install an application on a local intranet server. This is about the only way to really cut down TCO.
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> [...] Notice that Sun doesn't even make the list. Not even their super-fantabulous E15K!
The Sparc architecture is an open standard. Fujitsu has a long tradition of taking it to the max, though at a steep price.
This is similar to the x86 area. The availability of top-notch systems from IBM or HP does not hurt Dell, it helps them. Customers like to know that there is an enhancement to their el-cheapo equipment. If they feel like solving problems by money, they can.
> So what could US Steel have done? What can it possibly do now?
Quality and Productivity.
That's what everybody else is doing. Your post is 100 % red blooded American attitude. The US has never understood the concept of efficiency. And most of the time they are even too autistic to just copy the solution from others.
Western Europe and Japan face the very same problem since the 70s. One answer is automization and education. Let machines do all the work; educate workers to be operators. And in most cases high-tech methods of production lead to higher quality products. Spectacular examples are high-speed railways and the automative industry.
The industry in the civilized world answered the challenge of leight-weight materials like aluminum or carbon fiber with high-quality steel that can be rolled thiner.
> that makes him part of the crime and it is illegal for him to give you a ticket or court order unless
> their was a witness to the crime that had no part in it.
Sow how do you think undercover cops get by? Female officers posing as prostitutes are subject of the crime, not really witnesses. Though they are not allowed to encourage criminal activities, they dress in a way that lets little doubt about their supposed profession.
An undercover agent of a P2P-department would provide a directory listing of popular titles, without even having the stuff. Trying to download would suffice to be a crime.
Similar to current practice in narcotics. It doesn't matter whether someone sells you baking powder at a steep price. If you are convinced that you are really buying cocaine then you are committing a crime.
> Am I supose to be ashamed of it?
This will be the natural defense of the copyright industry. Outlaw file sharing, just like prostitution is illegal in an amazing number of places. Can you imagine undercover cops trying to persuade people into logging onto their devices?
> physical network and disappear at the first router?
Exactly. That's the main difference between a hub and router.
IMHO the poster does not have a clue (probably the reason the shop went broke).
At the end of the procedure you get a very clear warning about that.
And then one of those password is "change_on_install".
But I actually encountered people who ignored that all.
The problem is, neither management nor customer give a shit about security and efficiency.
The admin is definitely the wrong place to start. It's those who give the orders.
--
Killing the enemy solves the problem only if none are left. If you stop short of a clean-cut genocide you have to make some prosperous peace afterwards or the thing will start again a generation later.
WW2 was possible because of the merciless conditions after WW1. OTOH germans are reliable allies for the last 60 years because of American economic aid.
On the same scale, Iraq is an American disaster. There still is no McDonalds in Bagdad, so these guys still have nothing to lose.
I think the OP meant that Linux is the youngest contestant. NT was released after Kernel 1.0, but development started well in the 80s.
> The Linux kernel is more than 10 years old and it still
> has a toy-VM, toy-filesystem(ext2fs) and toy-scheduler.
A toy compared to what? BSD? Commercial Unices?
Anyway, there is a lot of activity regarding the file system issue. reiserfs is part of the official kernel since 2.4.2. sgi released version 1.0 of their port of xfs port. And IBM is still working on jfs.
Hardware vendors have discovered that Linux can be used to outsource OS development.
--
> the box to his own OS or circumvent NT keyboard handling
> (which can't be that hard)
You need a customized keyboard device driver.
And all I heard is that writing device drivers is rather difficult under NT.
--
No. In modern operating systems like Linux or NT the BIOS is used only for booting. Later on hardware is accessed directly by device drivers.
Windows9X is the only popular OS that still uses BIOS for regular operation. --
What does that help?
You can use md5sum to check whether your file got corrupted over the wire.
But that does not verify the identity of the site you are downloading from.
A popular solutions of this is asymetric encryption via pgp/gpg or the host-key of ssh.
--
> Microsoft, but the same ubergeeks and uberhackers who refuse to make,
> let alone allow Linux to be a user friendly OS...
Microsoft won the battle among closed-source vendors.
That means Apple, Digital Research, IBM & Novell lost the race for monopoly.
This is just the way capitalism works.
And if RMS had not changed the rules with his GPL there would really be nothing we could do about it.
> The only reason Linux has the professional level of respect
> that it does, is that it's a viable alternative to other flavors of *nix,
> which many professional IT and engineers are already familiar with,
I personally encountered Solaris later on during University.
And during the course the people unfamiliar to Linux fled to NT as fast as they could.
It's really the other way round: Without the Linux phenomenon overall Unix knowledge would be diminishing fast.
[Skipped a lot of incoherent rant.]
--
I bet most poeple won't get any output.
There is a better way to prove this.
root@e6281:~# find /usr/src/linux/ -name '*.c' | xargs grep -i Caldera
/usr/src/linux/net/ipx/af_ipx.c: * Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc.
/usr/src/linux/net/ipx/af_ipx.c: * Neither Greg Page nor Caldera, Inc. admit liability nor provide
/usr/src/linux/net/ipx/af_ipx.c: printk(KERN_INFO "IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc.\n");
/usr/src/linux/net/ipx/af_spx.c: * Jim Freeman
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/slip.c: * from Jim Freeman's
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/tlan.c: * (C) 1997-1998 Caldera, Inc.
/usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/advansys.c: Erik Ratcliffe has done testing of the
/usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/advansys.c: AdvanSys driver in the Caldera releases.
/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/kernel/smp.c: * Supported by Caldera http://www.caldera.com.
That's not the correct way to produce HTML, anyway.
To get an ü you write ü
ö is ö
Uppercase letters are written like this: Ä = Ä
Another important one is ß = ß
I have no problem watching Tarantino in German translation.
If you can't get the meaning through to another language it is probably a poem.
If not, well, who cares. German literature is completely meaningless in international comparison because they are basically just old farts complaining about incompetent readers.
I even found some genuine English words: internet, chipset, newsletter, interface, hacker, downloads.
But no trace of infamous octete...
Funny. That is Thüringen, a former part of the GDR.
> it is not something that is purely American.
You give some good reasons why Americans might by stupid. But I see no argument why they should not be.
My experience with U.S. people is that their horizon is very limited. They just can't imagine that there may be more than one truth.
Of course there are also lot of bright U.S.-Americans. Those that actually crossed the border (without falling off flat earth). Anyway, discussing this on Slashdot is a bit like preaching to the choir.
Ö sounds just like the vowel in bird.
I think you mean Ü, which is found in the French word rue.
Sure.
In the 60s quite a lot of dreamers thought that Africa will overtake the world. A young, dynamic nation, no longer restricted by imperialism ...
Other bets were India, the largest Democracy of the world. Or Europe, united in peace again. Heck, some braindead even had fears that Germany would do something silly again after collapse of Communism.
Chinese people make up about 15 % of world population, with a India a close second. So how do you make trade with all of Asia? For sure not by talking Chinese to Japanese, Vietnamese or Indonesians.
100 % agreement on that. But then I'm European...
Anyway, the success of English is no longer dependent on the behaviour of the U.S. There is just no suitable alternative. Actually a majority of people on the planet try to ignore this reality. But since they cannot find agreement amongst themselves this will lead to nothing.
Chinese people will rather learn Klingon than Hindu/Urdu, and vice versa. By measure of speakers French is meaningless compared to Spanish, but no follower of Grand Nation will ever admit that.
This shows that you are only pretending to know C.
What you want is
#ifdef RANT
silly text right here
#endif
> [...] > I suggest you Germans need a more positive connotation for 4/20. Agreed. This political correctness stuff brings us nowhere. For example it is not possible to have a license plate "ns" round here (even if you just mean Netscape). Not to mention SSL and SSH.
> Happy 4/20, everyone! What is that supposed to mean? That site is full of that. Do you know that April, 20th, is Adolf Hitler's Birthday? Here in German speaking Europe this day is associated with Neo-Nazi parades and the like.
Security issues beside, what if that other machine broke down in the middle of your work? Or if the vendor just goes broke?
OTOH is the possibility to install an application on a local intranet server. This is about the only way to really cut down TCO.