I'll probably get modded as flamebait for this but:
hmm... and how many people's deaths have been caused by your government? how many people in afghanistan and iraq and even Vietnam who were, from their perspective, protecting their sovereign soil from an invader, have been killed because of your government deciding it needs to police the world? by your reasoning George Bush and anyone in your government involved in attacking another country should be shot on sight, because they are "foreign bastards killing my neighboors".
get your head out of your arse and realise that believing everything that your propoganda machine says is said to invoke heavily nationalistic responses like yours without looking at the bigger picture... War, war never changes...
I used Vietnam as an example because the US never had any valid (read retaliatory) reason to be there.
PS: wtf is with the "Foreign Nationals" bit? would you really be more tollerant if it had have been a government official that killed 5000 Americans?
if you've just come back from amsterdam with a suitcase full of sex toys then, yeah... I think you have something to hide... What is your private, personal material should remain as such... it shouldn't be openly displayed to the public because of some a-hole on a power trip who has an IQ that can be counted on your fingers.
if you truly believe the "you have nothing to hide" argument then you should go live on a nudist comune, if you aren't already.
try searching "internet penetration australia" and find yourself some current figures instead of making them up.
you are either trolling, or deluded. enjoy that. i'm out.
noone ever said our country was perfect. and i'm all for fixing it, as are the majority of australians according to opinion polls. the point i was making is that your view of what the majority think is quite obviously not what the majority actually think, and posting your opinion as fact without citations or any evidence to back it up (when it takes 30seconds on google to do so) just shows how closed minded and stuck inside a reality of your own creation you really are.
if you want to step out of your bubble for a moment and be a part of the solution go here (if you haven't done so already): http://nocleanfeed.com/
"Somehow I doubt there are really that many Australians that want to be censored and have their freedoms taken away in exchange for *anything*. If you are really right about that, then yes I guess in this case the government is actually representing the will of the people. You will have to forgive me, I just find that shocking and unusual."
I would give it up for more porn... but since the internet filter blocks porn it is diametrically opposed to what incentivises me most.
PS: is incentivises a word, english nazis, help me out here
again, posting falacies that are made up in your own "self constructed world", this study is from 2001 and at that stage (7 years ago) we had 48% internet penetration... so that could be anyware from 70-90% (note: pure speculation) by now:
http://www.nielsenmedia.com.au/news.asp?newsID=125...
As a fellow Australian I'm appalled that you consider the majority of your own country men to be such backward hicks that they would support internet filtering, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary.
If you have such a passionate hatred for your own country then get on out
anyway, on that note i'm done feeding the trolls for today.
my self constructed little world? the kind of people who phone in and talk on talk radio are not in the vast majority of the population and the subset of those people doesn't neccesarily correlate with the subset who are opposed to internet filtering. i say this knowing full well that the previous statement also applies to my next one: if you check out any news story on news.com.au regarding internet filtering almost 100% of the comments are opposed to internet filtering and there are hundreds if not thousands of comments, talk radio gets you a subset of maybe a few dozen people... who as i mentioned are generally self absorbed oppinionites that are a few cookies short of the full jar.
"The vast majority of Australians think the Internet needs filtering." no, the vast majority don't... three people do... and unfortunately those three people are politicians and as such are trying to brainwash Aus into going along with it... Senator Conroy and SA's much loved premier Michael Atkinson (the douche who is single-handedly blocking an R rating for video games)... and of course the third is KRudd himself. I haven't had a single conversation about the Great Australian Filter (GAF) where the other person actually thought it was a good idea... even people who don't really give a damn know when their rights are being eroded and understand that the concept is flawed.
If you honestly think that the vast majority of Australians are as empty in the head as you purport then I'd hate to see the world through your eyes.
"I second your call for male nerds to dial down the stalker instinct"
that's just reverse discrimination, labelling all nerds as having a "stalker instinct" is like labelling all women as nothing but sex objects to be stared out. seriously, you won't help the issue by providing stereotypes for potential female CS students to cling to. Did it ever occur to you that women just aren't as interested in CS as guys, not due to a natural disposition but due to growing up in a different environment and whatnot.
given that they are male nerds there are only a few orrifices available, most of which can excrete curry at volatile temperatures. Given these options the only recourse with the statement "Fuck em" is to resort to homosexual intercourse where your penis is entering a potential lava pit... hence why I was underwhelmed at the prospect and stated "i'd prefer not to". both my hetero and dick-melting spidey sense alarms went off upon the OP's request to provide intimate relations to the indian protestors.
who is to say that he ever had intent to distribute the content? he pleaded guilty to filming the content. not distributing, you are jumping to conclusions without looking at the logical steps needed to approach such a conclusion. FTFA: "He is not, despite the allegations, charged with distribution or even copying that movie."
308,863 is a helluva lot less than 10 million as you originally suggest. box office movies STILL sell millions of tickets plus millions of DVD copies, so the subset of people who pirate it and don't pay to see it in a cinema would seem minute in comparison, not rampant - about 4% if a movie sells 8 million tickets. and of those 4% many will have paid to see it in the cinema already.
I myself will pay to watch a good film, then download it so that I can watch it again before it is released on DVD... I consider my "tax" for seeing the film to be paid.
I may even download the film and watch the first few minutes to determine if it is worth paying to see in a cinema.
viewing every download as a lost transaction skips over all the contextual data that may be surrounding that one download.
copyright infringement is not theft. who says that any of the people downloading the film would have bothered seeing it anyway? what about countries where it isn't released etc. as for the 10,000,000 theives... citation needed.
would you request jail time for someone travelling 5miles/hour over the limit? no? why request jailtime for this, another non-violent crime that doesn't actually harm anybody. (and if you say it harms the bottom line of the movie producers, it does not... the people that download and watch the torrents -generally- weren't going to go to the cinema to see that movie anyway)
http://www.ultrareach.com/
ultrasurf will get you around the filters folks. There is no way in hell that the Aus govt has the resources to block every proxy that ultrasurf can find, especially considering that the Chinese govt doesn't have the resources to stop it.
please, everyone who is an iinet customer install it and surf constantly for porn and wrongly blocked websites... it's your duty to download as much porn and illegal content as possible to prove that this shit doesn't work... so go looking for those barnyard inter-species orgies and gross out your friends today!
Here in Aus our Uni is subsidised... if you pay via the "HELP" loan scheme, which is govt funded and interest free (but inflation adjusted) you pay around 500-600 per unit, so around 2-2.5k per semester. Once you graduate and get a job paying higher than X amount (I think it's $30k/anum) then you start having a percentage automatically deducted to pay off the HELP and it's just like paying a bit more tax. But, and here's the kicker, if you manage to work your arse off through uni (I chose street walking as my means of income, so I literally worked my arse off, it hurts to sit down to this day) then you get a 25% reduction in the amount you have to pay. all in all a four year Uni course could cost you as little as $18000AUD, which is currently about $13000USD. Of course the system can be rorted by the "intelectuals" (read hippies) who never get a job and spend their lives in uni... or by people who skip the country and find work elsewhere... but they won't be welcomed back to Aus with open arms.
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then you should feel no guilt about turning that gun on yourself... you'd be saving millions of slashdot readers the ordeal of reading your flamebait.
Why give him the easy out and make him a martyr? imprison him for life and provide him with a cock-meat sandwich every morning.
I'll probably get modded as flamebait for this but:
hmm... and how many people's deaths have been caused by your government? how many people in afghanistan and iraq and even Vietnam who were, from their perspective, protecting their sovereign soil from an invader, have been killed because of your government deciding it needs to police the world? by your reasoning George Bush and anyone in your government involved in attacking another country should be shot on sight, because they are "foreign bastards killing my neighboors".
get your head out of your arse and realise that believing everything that your propoganda machine says is said to invoke heavily nationalistic responses like yours without looking at the bigger picture... War, war never changes...
I used Vietnam as an example because the US never had any valid (read retaliatory) reason to be there.
PS: wtf is with the "Foreign Nationals" bit? would you really be more tollerant if it had have been a government official that killed 5000 Americans?
if you've just come back from amsterdam with a suitcase full of sex toys then, yeah... I think you have something to hide... What is your private, personal material should remain as such... it shouldn't be openly displayed to the public because of some a-hole on a power trip who has an IQ that can be counted on your fingers.
if you truly believe the "you have nothing to hide" argument then you should go live on a nudist comune, if you aren't already.
try searching "internet penetration australia" and find yourself some current figures instead of making them up.
you are either trolling, or deluded. enjoy that. i'm out.
also... nice job on sidestepping the facts i presented regarding how many aussies actually have the internet by accusing me of being a nationalist.
noone ever said our country was perfect. and i'm all for fixing it, as are the majority of australians according to opinion polls. the point i was making is that your view of what the majority think is quite obviously not what the majority actually think, and posting your opinion as fact without citations or any evidence to back it up (when it takes 30seconds on google to do so) just shows how closed minded and stuck inside a reality of your own creation you really are.
if you want to step out of your bubble for a moment and be a part of the solution go here (if you haven't done so already): http://nocleanfeed.com/
"The Cold War did not exist in 1958"
At least it didn't officially exist in 1958
"Somehow I doubt there are really that many Australians that want to be censored and have their freedoms taken away in exchange for *anything*. If you are really right about that, then yes I guess in this case the government is actually representing the will of the people. You will have to forgive me, I just find that shocking and unusual."
I would give it up for more porn... but since the internet filter blocks porn it is diametrically opposed to what incentivises me most.
PS: is incentivises a word, english nazis, help me out here
again, posting falacies that are made up in your own "self constructed world", this study is from 2001 and at that stage (7 years ago) we had 48% internet penetration... so that could be anyware from 70-90% (note: pure speculation) by now: http://www.nielsenmedia.com.au/news.asp?newsID=125...
As a fellow Australian I'm appalled that you consider the majority of your own country men to be such backward hicks that they would support internet filtering, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary.
If you have such a passionate hatred for your own country then get on out
anyway, on that note i'm done feeding the trolls for today.
my self constructed little world? the kind of people who phone in and talk on talk radio are not in the vast majority of the population and the subset of those people doesn't neccesarily correlate with the subset who are opposed to internet filtering. i say this knowing full well that the previous statement also applies to my next one: if you check out any news story on news.com.au regarding internet filtering almost 100% of the comments are opposed to internet filtering and there are hundreds if not thousands of comments, talk radio gets you a subset of maybe a few dozen people... who as i mentioned are generally self absorbed oppinionites that are a few cookies short of the full jar.
"The vast majority of Australians think the Internet needs filtering."
no, the vast majority don't... three people do... and unfortunately those three people are politicians and as such are trying to brainwash Aus into going along with it... Senator Conroy and SA's much loved premier Michael Atkinson (the douche who is single-handedly blocking an R rating for video games)... and of course the third is KRudd himself.
I haven't had a single conversation about the Great Australian Filter (GAF) where the other person actually thought it was a good idea... even people who don't really give a damn know when their rights are being eroded and understand that the concept is flawed.
If you honestly think that the vast majority of Australians are as empty in the head as you purport then I'd hate to see the world through your eyes.
"I second your call for male nerds to dial down the stalker instinct"
that's just reverse discrimination, labelling all nerds as having a "stalker instinct" is like labelling all women as nothing but sex objects to be stared out.
seriously, you won't help the issue by providing stereotypes for potential female CS students to cling to.
Did it ever occur to you that women just aren't as interested in CS as guys, not due to a natural disposition but due to growing up in a different environment and whatnot.
it makes it very difficult to track the ball when Hussey tonks it.
given that they are male nerds there are only a few orrifices available, most of which can excrete curry at volatile temperatures. Given these options the only recourse with the statement "Fuck em" is to resort to homosexual intercourse where your penis is entering a potential lava pit... hence why I was underwhelmed at the prospect and stated "i'd prefer not to". both my hetero and dick-melting spidey sense alarms went off upon the OP's request to provide intimate relations to the indian protestors.
"Fuck 'em."
i'd preffer not too... one curry-fart and my penis would melt.
who is to say that he ever had intent to distribute the content? he pleaded guilty to filming the content. not distributing, you are jumping to conclusions without looking at the logical steps needed to approach such a conclusion. FTFA: "He is not, despite the allegations, charged with distribution or even copying that movie."
308,863 is a helluva lot less than 10 million as you originally suggest. box office movies STILL sell millions of tickets plus millions of DVD copies, so the subset of people who pirate it and don't pay to see it in a cinema would seem minute in comparison, not rampant - about 4% if a movie sells 8 million tickets. and of those 4% many will have paid to see it in the cinema already.
I myself will pay to watch a good film, then download it so that I can watch it again before it is released on DVD... I consider my "tax" for seeing the film to be paid.
I may even download the film and watch the first few minutes to determine if it is worth paying to see in a cinema.
viewing every download as a lost transaction skips over all the contextual data that may be surrounding that one download.
copyright infringement is not theft. who says that any of the people downloading the film would have bothered seeing it anyway? what about countries where it isn't released etc. as for the 10,000,000 theives... citation needed.
would you request jail time for someone travelling 5miles/hour over the limit? no? why request jailtime for this, another non-violent crime that doesn't actually harm anybody. (and if you say it harms the bottom line of the movie producers, it does not... the people that download and watch the torrents -generally- weren't going to go to the cinema to see that movie anyway)
exactly... just like people who join scAmway... it's their own fault for their greed as much as it is the fault of the bastard that roped them in.
call me uncivilized ... but i'm not a huge fan of turn based strategies
http://www.ultrareach.com/ ultrasurf will get you around the filters folks. There is no way in hell that the Aus govt has the resources to block every proxy that ultrasurf can find, especially considering that the Chinese govt doesn't have the resources to stop it.
please, everyone who is an iinet customer install it and surf constantly for porn and wrongly blocked websites... it's your duty to download as much porn and illegal content as possible to prove that this shit doesn't work... so go looking for those barnyard inter-species orgies and gross out your friends today!
yes... and all from the humble beginnings of a garage in Perth.
Here in Aus our Uni is subsidised... if you pay via the "HELP" loan scheme, which is govt funded and interest free (but inflation adjusted) you pay around 500-600 per unit, so around 2-2.5k per semester. Once you graduate and get a job paying higher than X amount (I think it's $30k/anum) then you start having a percentage automatically deducted to pay off the HELP and it's just like paying a bit more tax.
But, and here's the kicker, if you manage to work your arse off through uni (I chose street walking as my means of income, so I literally worked my arse off, it hurts to sit down to this day) then you get a 25% reduction in the amount you have to pay. all in all a four year Uni course could cost you as little as $18000AUD, which is currently about $13000USD.
Of course the system can be rorted by the "intelectuals" (read hippies) who never get a job and spend their lives in uni... or by people who skip the country and find work elsewhere... but they won't be welcomed back to Aus with open arms.
You read that wrong. There is a (humour) implied in there.