Gun control is the first step in getting these weapons off the streets. Gun control is not a system that would cure the problem over night. Rather, I believe that it would inflate the problem for several years and then begin to have a positive effect.
I'm glad to here that. So the gun control laws put in place in the 60's and 70's to combat California's high rates should just be kicking in now. Or did you mean several decades, California keeps adding more restrictions and violence keeps jumping further and further up with each one.
I am thankful there are states where we can still carry concelaed weapons, they have the lowest crime rates.
I don't carry a gun, I prefer to Draw and Quarter the criminals who come for me, they just never come.
I say 5 days. First we sue the schools, then the parents, teachers, broadcasters. I already heard the comparison to "Basketball Diaries" again, so Leo will be personally sued for staring in that movie. We follow up with game companies, Al Gore (he invented the internet afterall), and heck the makers of the linoleum in the school (with out that, the murderers couldn't have walked around without getting dirty shoes.)
Bravo to you. We have terrorists in America, our kids. With some real parenting, this may go away. Kosovo's terrorist is another culture that wants to cleanse them selves. Unfortunately TOO FEW people in KLA have access to weapons. They didn;t get them from the Serbs legally, they killed people to get the few guns they have. TO STOP THE KILLING OF THEIR FAMILY. If Canada ever invades the US, I will be ready and waiting while our government will be peacekeeping (in some other country of course.)
Jefferson, Madison, and the rest of the founders never dreamed of the kind of ordinance at the disposal of even the most deranged individual today.
Boy are you right. They were thinking of blackpowder pistols that only scratched someone and never ripped a hole through their body. Oh.. yes they did. Well they never though about weapons that can take at a whole room of people. Oh... yes they did, they wanted people to own cannons if they wanted (and many did).
BUT THEY EXPECTED YOU TO KNOW HOW TO USE ONE PROPERLY. Your prents raised you with a gun so you would only shoot the bad guys (which were my family, drat.)
Weapons have always been able to kill people, mass quanities of people. Just some require less strength to use (and less sanity.) In another 50 years when we start to vaporize people with modern weaponary, again we will fawn over the days of safer weapons that did less demage (oh a grenade, we have a nuke in the closet.)
the Knee Jerk reaction will NEVER help. The weapons restrictions were already tight enough then in Scotland. You had to keep you gun at a gun club and couldn't take it out of the clb unless you were taking it to another (permits...)
So next year someone will come in and kill a dozen people with potato guns (a backpack full of them, each potato with spikes instead of eyes.)
Outlawing a weapon doesn't git rid of that weapon, it introduces another. If I can't get a blackmarket weapon (which most could, like the Scottish idiot did) then you use a weaker legal weapon.
I am a trained sword fighter (not wussy Olympic fencing.) I could go into a school with a homemade blade and kill ten people before they realize what is going on. I won't, I'm sane, I think....:) But if I do go mad and do this, please blame it on the 1930's Flynn flicks... They made me do it, it wasn't me...
This is not a story of geekdom, this is a story of a country that is set up so that its easy to blow the fuck out of people at the drop of a hat:-)
I'm not sure how much humor was intended. But a couple of minors who cannot legally buy any guns. Walk into a school (gun free zone) with ILLEGAL guns (as in you can't go to the sporting goods section to pick one up) and pipe bombs (build them on your own.. get your plans on the net)
Lets see, while atleast the school felt safe enough not to have any security guards. Hey the teachers can't even have knife over 2 inches.
I don't own a gun, but after attending some classes I know how to use one. I feel safe with one (won't shoot my foot and stuff a hot barrel in my pants afterwards.)
I think I'm going to do a larger post elsewhere on just weapons bans and why people look at me funny carrying a claymoure (not the explosive type.) We have the right to defend ourselves, from theives, crooked cops, Clinton, etc... (LOL when thinking about defending myself Clinton... he has armed gaurds for his protection, hopefully he also has Trojans:)
The sheep of America wouldn't try and stop someone attacking them with toe nail clippers.
The media has shown that its best to lie down and take it, then cry to mommmy because you were picked on. Take for example the New York Subway murders of last year. They laid there while he was reloading, I'm sure after all the violent movies they've seen, they could recognize that sound, and the sound of clip dropping to the floor. Instead of rising to stop, they laid there and waited for him to continue the executions.
To me and many people I know, its very obvious how over 1500 students can disarm two highly armed students with much less than 15 casualities. Maybe its due to military trainging (their part, not mine.) Maybe its due to most of us spending a major part of our lives in countries with terorists and you are shown how to handle terorists.
The 2 students attacking that school, were terrorists. Just more effective than most. They brought more terror to a nation than a hundred car bombs in Israel.
Mordac -- Littleton, Co (didn't go to Columbine High School, just the Library across the street)
there is no emporer at that time. just Senator Palpatine (same actor as Episode 6.) He is also a GOOD guy in the first episode (I guess he to must walk down to the dark side.)
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I'm glad to here that. So the gun control laws put in place in the 60's and 70's to combat California's high rates should just be kicking in now. Or did you mean several decades, California keeps adding more restrictions and violence keeps jumping further and further up with each one.
I am thankful there are states where we can still carry concelaed weapons, they have the lowest crime rates.
I don't carry a gun, I prefer to Draw and Quarter the criminals who come for me, they just never come.
I say 5 days. First we sue the schools, then the parents, teachers, broadcasters. I already heard the comparison to "Basketball Diaries" again, so Leo will be personally sued for staring in that movie. We follow up with game companies, Al Gore (he invented the internet afterall), and heck the makers of the linoleum in the school (with out that, the murderers couldn't have walked around without getting dirty shoes.)
Bravo to you. We have terrorists in America, our kids. With some real parenting, this may go away. Kosovo's terrorist is another culture that wants to cleanse them selves. Unfortunately TOO FEW people in KLA have access to weapons. They didn;t get them from the Serbs legally, they killed people to get the few guns they have. TO STOP THE KILLING OF THEIR FAMILY. If Canada ever invades the US, I will be ready and waiting while our government will be peacekeeping (in some other country of course.)
Boy are you right. They were thinking of blackpowder pistols that only scratched someone and never ripped a hole through their body. Oh.. yes they did. Well they never though about weapons that can take at a whole room of people. Oh... yes they did, they wanted people to own cannons if they wanted (and many did).
BUT THEY EXPECTED YOU TO KNOW HOW TO USE ONE PROPERLY. Your prents raised you with a gun so you would only shoot the bad guys (which were my family, drat.)
Weapons have always been able to kill people, mass quanities of people. Just some require less strength to use (and less sanity.) In another 50 years when we start to vaporize people with modern weaponary, again we will fawn over the days of safer weapons that did less demage (oh a grenade, we have a nuke in the closet.)
Jimmy ;) I'm having fun with this.
:) But if I do go mad and do this, please blame it on the 1930's Flynn flicks... They made me do it, it wasn't me...
the Knee Jerk reaction will NEVER help. The weapons restrictions were already tight enough then in Scotland. You had to keep you gun at a gun club and couldn't take it out of the clb unless you were taking it to another (permits...)
So next year someone will come in and kill a dozen people with potato guns (a backpack full of them, each potato with spikes instead of eyes.)
Outlawing a weapon doesn't git rid of that weapon, it introduces another. If I can't get a blackmarket weapon (which most could, like the Scottish idiot did) then you use a weaker legal weapon.
I am a trained sword fighter (not wussy Olympic fencing.) I could go into a school with a homemade blade and kill ten people before they realize what is going on. I won't, I'm sane, I think....
I'm not sure how much humor was intended. But a couple of minors who cannot legally buy any guns. Walk into a school (gun free zone) with ILLEGAL guns (as in you can't go to the sporting goods section to pick one up) and pipe bombs (build them on your own.. get your plans on the net)
Lets see, while atleast the school felt safe enough not to have any security guards. Hey the teachers can't even have knife over 2 inches.
I don't own a gun, but after attending some classes I know how to use one. I feel safe with one (won't shoot my foot and stuff a hot barrel in my pants afterwards.)
I think I'm going to do a larger post elsewhere on just weapons bans and why people look at me funny carrying a claymoure (not the explosive type.) We have the right to defend ourselves, from theives, crooked cops, Clinton, etc... (LOL when thinking about defending myself Clinton... he has armed gaurds for his protection, hopefully he also has Trojans :)
The sheep of America wouldn't try and stop someone attacking them with toe nail clippers.
The media has shown that its best to lie down and take it, then cry to mommmy because you were picked on. Take for example the New York Subway murders of last year. They laid there while he was reloading, I'm sure after all the violent movies they've seen, they could recognize that sound, and the sound of clip dropping to the floor. Instead of rising to stop, they laid there and waited for him to continue the executions.
To me and many people I know, its very obvious how over 1500 students can disarm two highly armed students with much less than 15 casualities. Maybe its due to military trainging (their part, not mine.) Maybe its due to most of us spending a major part of our lives in countries with terorists and you are shown how to handle terorists.
The 2 students attacking that school, were terrorists. Just more effective than most. They brought more terror to a nation than a hundred car bombs in Israel.
Mordac -- Littleton, Co (didn't go to Columbine High School, just the Library across the street)
there is no emporer at that time. just Senator Palpatine (same actor as Episode 6.) He is also a GOOD guy in the first episode (I guess he to must walk down to the dark side.)