"pretty cool, but not a total pbx killer just yet" That's exactly what we thought of the currently available Cisco IP phones. We opened a new site in March, and the decision was PBX, but each of us felt that had it been 4 or 5 months later, we might have settled on Cisco.
When it's ready, it's going to be a nice system, and it's always good to have another option.
Now, about the phones... We just took a looong look at these at work, as we were opening a new headquarters and had to decide between buying a lot of regular (nortel) phones and doing the whole PBX thing or going the cool Cisco route.
We all really wanted to go the Cisco route, but it just wasn't quite ready for business use. The handsets were actually the big shortcoming, but overall the tech just wasn't there yet.
The decision, made by the guy who started my company, whose telecom knowledge is remarkable, was that the Ciscos would be ready by late summer. So one generation past what you see now, if you're a business intending to buy a lot of them and rely on them heavily. Or if you're just a normal guy who doesn't want to buy a new phone again for a while;)
"worldwide TLDs (and yes, they are WORLDWIDE, NOT AMERICAN TLDs..."
They're american tlds, which we let you use. You have the option of using your country code, whereas in the US that's a more difficult process.
Of course, you don't WANT to use your country code, due to a combination of being too lazy and wanting to ride on the prestige of the US naming convention. The same combination of laziness and sheep-like following of American ideas that resulted in us inventing all of this instead of you, ironically.
I don't know that this is entirely accurate. Microsoft's policy as I see it has been to break standards, and use it's position to force acceptance of the new version.
The lastest fiasco with Kerebros is an excellent example of this, and to a lesser extent WINS as a form of DNS. There are many others.
>>Fans of groups WANT to support those groups. That is absolute crap. I worked as a bouncer for years, and the number of people that balked at paying the cover charge for our club, then said 'I know the band, I should be on a list or something' was incredible. Even when I explained that ALL of the door money went to the band, they'd whine until the band finally looked out and saw them.
Then they'd go inside and drink cokes, thereby insuring we never booked their dumbass friends to play again.
People don't want to support bands, they want stuff for free.
From my perspective, the fact that Metallica was able to find 335,000 people illegally trading their songs sounds like it would take the wind out of the sails of people like Katz.
Is there no conceivable situation that will cause him or those like him to say 'oops, I guess people are ripping off artists'?
Not everyone who expresses discontent is whining. There's also something to be said for style...I can read some things I'm not terribly interested in if I enjoy the writing, and Mr. AC's unhappy snippet was well done. There are plenty of other targets...
It's my feeling that a honeypot is a great tool if you're interested in learning the behavior of crackers, but not a good tool for increasing your network security.
They're used to attract, and attracting attention is not really what you're after. Simply having a network connected to the internet is honey enough to keep any number of security people busy.
Save the honeypots for people conducting research, and then just learn from the risks they took.
My feelings on this are similar to the one's I have when otherwise capable adults ask me to think for them at work.
Approach me with/some/ evidence that you've begun researching the problem on your own. Say 'I've tried X Y and Z, but don't feel as if I've quite covered all of the bases yet'. Make me want to help you.
I find it humorous that the author uses his previous unproven point (newspapers are dead) to reinforce his new point (books are as dead as newspapers!).
I don't know if he's attempting to convince us that he was right all along by pretending the emporer actually had clothes, but it's not a terribly honest dialogue either way.
I completely agree. If an artist chooses to give away his music, great, but if he should choose not to, that is his right. Our rights, as they relate to this piece of music, don't exist.
Is router-based packet blocking an overly draconian measure? Perhaps so, but I just can't figure out why nearly everyone who reads/. thinks being compenstated for your efforts is wrong.
"Any Ivy league education? I havn't read the article, but from that alone I have a problem."
Not to be too OT...but just go ahead and read the article before commenting.
You may well come away with the same feelings, but honestly, you'll benefit a lot more from taking a moment to read things over before forming an opinion than we will from reading your comments.
Your statistics about Germans who voted for Hitler, while accurate, doesn't support the claim that Nazis = Germans. There were residents unregistered to vote, expatriots, children, etc. When you attempt to cover an entire race with the blanket of one political party, however prevalent, you're behaving in a racist manner.
Given that, it's unsurprising that you're unable to grasp the other arguement, as racism is the stronghold of the ignorant. When you extend the scale of a comparison too far, you invalidate it. You're no longer taking something to it's logical conclusion, but engaging in make-believe and assigning illogical consequences to an action.
Do I think we should ignore immoral actions? Of course not. However, overstating the consequences to such a degree does nothing but radicalize your position, making for a weaker arguement. Which was my original point.
First of all, I think you mean 'even the Nazis' rather than 'even the Germans'. It's a symptom of your seeming tendancy to overgeneralize that you assign Nazism to all Germans.
Second of all, and I hesitate to address this as all you did was restate your first point without adding supporting for it, I disagree that the holocaust is the logical conclusion patent enforcement will come to.
If you can link a past horror on the magnitude of the holocaust to anything remotely akin to patent enforcement, I'd love to hear it. (Most people would say you can't, because there's never been anything as bad as the holocaust, but that's because they've been educated in the US and for some reason we don't learn about Stalin) The fact is, although ethnic cleansing is born of numerous factors, patent enforcement has never been shown to be a significant factor in it's development.
Computer Science studies at the university level are still not focused enough towards helping the student find a job afterwards. Well, neither are any other sort of studies at a university, but CS has less of an exuse in my opinion.
I have a close friend who graduated with a CS degree, and knows nothing of Unix. I constantly find myself glancing sidelong at him, asking 'what exactly the fuck did they teach you at that college?'.
Teach on Solaris. Businesses use it, and you'll be doing your students a favor. Linux is fun, and free. If your students have the love, they'll go home and teach Linux to themselves.
Every time I think I'm about to spend a chunk of money on a new system, this sort of thing makes me want to wait. At this rate, I'll be 'about to buy a new computer' about the time I move into my Moon House...
I find it interesting that the author assumes there will be a 'linux-killer', and bases it on the fact that several companies were killed, or nearly so, by being bad business people.
His confusion on the issue of linux not being a company was also evident in his comments about how linux needs a very simple installation.
Perhaps Redhat or Caldera will succumb to a linux-killer at some point, or will die on the vine for lack of a simple installer or easy-learn apps, but linux itself is larger than any single corporation.
What linux has done is show that there is a market for an OS that's more capable than Windows, even at the expense of ease of use. If the result is a dual OS world, with Windows for the average user and linux for those who feel like learning and doing more, I don't see where that hurts anyone.
Having a love for computing is in some way supposed to shut off my ability to love other things? Am I destined to draw further and further away from the realm of human contact until my Palm VII is needed only for trips to the bathroom, since I never stray outside my house for fear of a corrupting non-technical influence?
I think not. I managed to live with the dichotomy of emotions fired by dragging my broken body from the lacrosse field to the X lab while in college, and I can somehow enjoy an NFL game with my friends to this day without feeling my geek juices sap from my unworthy vessel.
Aristotle advanced the theory that the perfect man was one who eschewed neither the mental, nor the physical world. You, Slashdot-terminal, are no Aristotle.
from the 'related' Red Herring article on IBM v Sun...
At the same time, Mr. DiBona was critical of Sun for refusing to acknowledge the major gains Linux has made. "They just don't get it," he said.
I'm not sure how you make this comment on the 25th of January with Sun's release of Solaris 8 for free just around the corner. Either the author ignored the news or wasn't aware of it.
Like the planned release or hate it, it gives Sun an awfully good reason to ignore Linux.
Speaking as someone who finds the 'hjkl' keys not only intuitive but inherently elegant, I'd have to say it's all in how you learn. If you were taught using chords, and took to it, you'll always love them...same goes the other way around. I just feel bad for the people who learned from chorders who're natural 'hjkl'ers, and vice versa.
I met my significant other online, while playing a MUD actually. After about a year she moved from LA to DC and we've been living together for another year.
I'd say it not only works, it's made me the happiest I've ever been. It's nice not to have to explain my love of computers and willingness to spend time tinkering with them, rather have them as something we share and can enjoy together.
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That's exactly what we thought of the currently available Cisco IP phones. We opened a new site in March, and the decision was PBX, but each of us felt that had it been 4 or 5 months later, we might have settled on Cisco.
When it's ready, it's going to be a nice system, and it's always good to have another option.
Martin
Now, about the phones...
We just took a looong look at these at work, as we were opening a new headquarters and had to decide between buying a lot of regular (nortel) phones and doing the whole PBX thing or going the cool Cisco route.
We all really wanted to go the Cisco route, but it just wasn't quite ready for business use. The handsets were actually the big shortcoming, but overall the tech just wasn't there yet.
The decision, made by the guy who started my company, whose telecom knowledge is remarkable, was that the Ciscos would be ready by late summer. So one generation past what you see now, if you're a business intending to buy a lot of them and rely on them heavily. Or if you're just a normal guy who doesn't want to buy a new phone again for a while ;)
Martin
They're american tlds, which we let you use. You have the option of using your country code, whereas in the US that's a more difficult process.
Of course, you don't WANT to use your country code, due to a combination of being too lazy and wanting to ride on the prestige of the US naming convention. The same combination of laziness and sheep-like following of American ideas that resulted in us inventing all of this instead of you, ironically.
I don't know that this is entirely accurate. Microsoft's policy as I see it has been to break standards, and use it's position to force acceptance of the new version.
The lastest fiasco with Kerebros is an excellent example of this, and to a lesser extent WINS as a form of DNS. There are many others.
Martin Burke
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Then they'd go inside and drink cokes, thereby insuring we never booked their dumbass friends to play again.
People don't want to support bands, they want stuff for free.
Is there no conceivable situation that will cause him or those like him to say 'oops, I guess people are ripping off artists'?
No, some of represent the free software movement. Didn't anyone *read* the Stallman interview?
On a completely off topic subject... How cool that you have a letter on the Dragon Magazine cd-rom. Wow, did I love that magazine :)
Not everyone who expresses discontent is whining. There's also something to be said for style...I can read some things I'm not terribly interested in if I enjoy the writing, and Mr. AC's unhappy snippet was well done. There are plenty of other targets...
They're used to attract, and attracting attention is not really what you're after. Simply having a network connected to the internet is honey enough to keep any number of security people busy.
Save the honeypots for people conducting research, and then just learn from the risks they took.
Approach me with /some/ evidence that you've begun researching the problem on your own. Say 'I've tried X Y and Z, but don't feel as if I've quite covered all of the bases yet'. Make me want to help you.
This is worlds ahead of other consoles, and if that's what you like to play on, this is a good thing.
I don't know if he's attempting to convince us that he was right all along by pretending the emporer actually had clothes, but it's not a terribly honest dialogue either way.
Is router-based packet blocking an overly draconian measure? Perhaps so, but I just can't figure out why nearly everyone who reads /. thinks being compenstated for your efforts is wrong.
Not to be too OT...but just go ahead and read the article before commenting.
You may well come away with the same feelings, but honestly, you'll benefit a lot more from taking a moment to read things over before forming an opinion than we will from reading your comments.
Given that, it's unsurprising that you're unable to grasp the other arguement, as racism is the stronghold of the ignorant. When you extend the scale of a comparison too far, you invalidate it. You're no longer taking something to it's logical conclusion, but engaging in make-believe and assigning illogical consequences to an action.
Do I think we should ignore immoral actions? Of course not. However, overstating the consequences to such a degree does nothing but radicalize your position, making for a weaker arguement. Which was my original point.
Second of all, and I hesitate to address this as all you did was restate your first point without adding supporting for it, I disagree that the holocaust is the logical conclusion patent enforcement will come to.
If you can link a past horror on the magnitude of the holocaust to anything remotely akin to patent enforcement, I'd love to hear it. (Most people would say you can't, because there's never been anything as bad as the holocaust, but that's because they've been educated in the US and for some reason we don't learn about Stalin) The fact is, although ethnic cleansing is born of numerous factors, patent enforcement has never been shown to be a significant factor in it's development.
By comparing this issue to the holocaust, you diminish your own arguement far more than the person's whom you attempted to discredit.
I have a close friend who graduated with a CS degree, and knows nothing of Unix. I constantly find myself glancing sidelong at him, asking 'what exactly the fuck did they teach you at that college?'.
Teach on Solaris. Businesses use it, and you'll be doing your students a favor. Linux is fun, and free. If your students have the love, they'll go home and teach Linux to themselves.
Every time I think I'm about to spend a chunk of money on a new system, this sort of thing makes me want to wait. At this rate, I'll be 'about to buy a new computer' about the time I move into my Moon House...
His confusion on the issue of linux not being a company was also evident in his comments about how linux needs a very simple installation.
Perhaps Redhat or Caldera will succumb to a linux-killer at some point, or will die on the vine for lack of a simple installer or easy-learn apps, but linux itself is larger than any single corporation.
What linux has done is show that there is a market for an OS that's more capable than Windows, even at the expense of ease of use. If the result is a dual OS world, with Windows for the average user and linux for those who feel like learning and doing more, I don't see where that hurts anyone.
I think not. I managed to live with the dichotomy of emotions fired by dragging my broken body from the lacrosse field to the X lab while in college, and I can somehow enjoy an NFL game with my friends to this day without feeling my geek juices sap from my unworthy vessel.
Aristotle advanced the theory that the perfect man was one who eschewed neither the mental, nor the physical world. You, Slashdot-terminal, are no Aristotle.
Like the planned release or hate it, it gives Sun an awfully good reason to ignore Linux.
StanSmith
S.S.
I'd say it not only works, it's made me the happiest I've ever been. It's nice not to have to explain my love of computers and willingness to spend time tinkering with them, rather have them as something we share and can enjoy together.