Yea but can you really trademark such a term at this point? The use of the phrase open source is so widespread now i think they've lost control of whatever power they had over its use, unless they'd like to argue over the use of capitalization Open Source vs open source.
There was no app store, but as far back as 1-1.5 years ago, Jobs said, in public, that 3rd party apps would come, the right way.
So for MUCH longer than just since the app store launched, people have been paying for iPhones and iTouch devices, and signing up for very expensive contracts, only to watch Apple abuse their position as to what may run on the phone, even if users WANT something and WANT to ignore Apples application.
The talk about Apple rejecting Podcaster so they won't, in the future, have to find reasons to also reject an Amazon MP3 store app, are even more clear examples of Apple abusing their position to protect their business model.
I don't care how, Apple needs to change or be forced to change.
The argument there would be that users want it to close the app after the last window is closed, which is what windows does.
Doesn't bother me either way, i use vista and leopard both and have no problem going between them, and neither way annoys me. I do like squeezing the mouse to switch windows more than hitting the taskbar to change apps (or alt+tab).
Referring to someone who at least paid for some percentage of the actual cost of OS X (the upgrade retail boxes) as a pirate is stretching the definition of the word.
Why not? Nobody held a gun to your head and made you buy one or write any software for it.
Nope. No one forces me to do a lot of things, but that has nothing at all to do with this situation.
Should I sue my local grocery store for not carrying Lawry's Beef Stroganoff seasoning mix, even though I have asked them to? No. I simply shop somewhere else.
YOU can't sue them, where you got the idea you could i don't know, nor can the end user of a phone sue the company for such things. Developers who are excluded from the thing for bullshit reasons, can. Antitrust regulations might come into it as well, Apple seems to be playing favorites with the app store, favoring their own stuff and refusing to even allow competition to their precious semi-functional apps.
Also, the "store" in this case is the App store, and you can't just go fucking shop somewhere else, it would require buying an entirely new phone or jailbreaking the iPhone (which apple keeps trying to break, intentionally or otherwise). This is not the time to bring out the "vote with your wallet" crap, the market doesn't move this fast, people have 2 year contracts and payed a lot for this thing before Apple decided to take this captive market and abuse their position to favor their own potential future business models.
Now go buy a Windows Mobile or PalmOS-based device (or wait for Android), and you won't have to worry about what Apple does and does not let people do. Simple.
Vote with your money, people. If you don't like something, why the f*** would you pay for it? We're not talking about a monopoly here.
Because that shouldn't be my only choice, allow apple to do whatever the fuck they want or buy something else. This is not a simple market, some random player can't just walk in and provide an alternative. Even Apple is AT&Ts bitch right now, excluding stuff AT&T doesn't want running on their network. Even the new android phone will probably be locked up to do only things T-Mobile wants it to do. So with a relative lack of competent players, i have no problem with the otherwise objectionable idea of suing the shit out of apple until they stop fucking around.
I hope Apple gets slapped with a big fucking fine for this crap, its ridiculous, unnecessary and anti-competitive.
It's Apple's product and if they are able to, there is nothing wrong with controlling what apps there are in the app store.
They exert excessive and unnecessary control over the thing. There is something wrong with it, I don't care if its their phone, i don't care if its their app store. They absolutely should not be allowed to exclude applications from the thing simply because it might threaten their business model, EVEN IF they have used to SDK license to exclude those things. It's ridiculous and i hope they get sued.
You can do the same thing by building a datacenter near water. You don't get the wave motion stuff but you would get the ability to use seawater as coolant.
"That's before you take into account that most of the benchmarks are based on ping-pong tests (minimal stack usage, no data) and not real-world usage."
Seems fine to me. I put all my new systems through the ping-pong test, sometimes i even win.
On a real computer i can install whatever i want to make up for any real or perceived lack of functionality, particularly when it comes to accessing specific websites and the plugins they make use of.
They apparently use Intels EFI framework, modified I'm sure by Apple to support various features like target disk mode.
The only checks I'm aware of are a CPUID check done by the XNU kernel, and once the OS boots, a kernel extension (dsmos.kext, abbreviated) retrieves an encryption key from the SMC chip and uses it to decrypt things like the dock and finder binaries.
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Yea but can you really trademark such a term at this point? The use of the phrase open source is so widespread now i think they've lost control of whatever power they had over its use, unless they'd like to argue over the use of capitalization Open Source vs open source.
They do seem to be quite touchy about the use of the phrase Open Source (in caps).
They really did pick a bad name though, because Open doesn't imply all the things they want it to mean.
Me too.......just not like *that*
meep meep?
There was no app store, but as far back as 1-1.5 years ago, Jobs said, in public, that 3rd party apps would come, the right way.
So for MUCH longer than just since the app store launched, people have been paying for iPhones and iTouch devices, and signing up for very expensive contracts, only to watch Apple abuse their position as to what may run on the phone, even if users WANT something and WANT to ignore Apples application.
The talk about Apple rejecting Podcaster so they won't, in the future, have to find reasons to also reject an Amazon MP3 store app, are even more clear examples of Apple abusing their position to protect their business model.
I don't care how, Apple needs to change or be forced to change.
That one company converts MBPs for people or sells new ones but you lose the keyboard in that case i believe.
Man, i hope after using this mac mini for ~9 months i don't turn into a jackass too!
The argument there would be that users want it to close the app after the last window is closed, which is what windows does.
Doesn't bother me either way, i use vista and leopard both and have no problem going between them, and neither way annoys me. I do like squeezing the mouse to switch windows more than hitting the taskbar to change apps (or alt+tab).
Which is complete crap....
Referring to someone who at least paid for some percentage of the actual cost of OS X (the upgrade retail boxes) as a pirate is stretching the definition of the word.
Why not? Nobody held a gun to your head and made you buy one or write any software for it.
Nope. No one forces me to do a lot of things, but that has nothing at all to do with this situation.
Should I sue my local grocery store for not carrying Lawry's Beef Stroganoff seasoning mix, even though I have asked them to? No. I simply shop somewhere else.
YOU can't sue them, where you got the idea you could i don't know, nor can the end user of a phone sue the company for such things. Developers who are excluded from the thing for bullshit reasons, can. Antitrust regulations might come into it as well, Apple seems to be playing favorites with the app store, favoring their own stuff and refusing to even allow competition to their precious semi-functional apps.
Also, the "store" in this case is the App store, and you can't just go fucking shop somewhere else, it would require buying an entirely new phone or jailbreaking the iPhone (which apple keeps trying to break, intentionally or otherwise). This is not the time to bring out the "vote with your wallet" crap, the market doesn't move this fast, people have 2 year contracts and payed a lot for this thing before Apple decided to take this captive market and abuse their position to favor their own potential future business models.
Now go buy a Windows Mobile or PalmOS-based device (or wait for Android), and you won't have to worry about what Apple does and does not let people do. Simple.
Vote with your money, people. If you don't like something, why the f*** would you pay for it? We're not talking about a monopoly here.
Because that shouldn't be my only choice, allow apple to do whatever the fuck they want or buy something else. This is not a simple market, some random player can't just walk in and provide an alternative. Even Apple is AT&Ts bitch right now, excluding stuff AT&T doesn't want running on their network. Even the new android phone will probably be locked up to do only things T-Mobile wants it to do. So with a relative lack of competent players, i have no problem with the otherwise objectionable idea of suing the shit out of apple until they stop fucking around.
I hope Apple gets slapped with a big fucking fine for this crap, its ridiculous, unnecessary and anti-competitive.
It's Apple's product and if they are able to, there is nothing wrong with controlling what apps there are in the app store.
They exert excessive and unnecessary control over the thing. There is something wrong with it, I don't care if its their phone, i don't care if its their app store. They absolutely should not be allowed to exclude applications from the thing simply because it might threaten their business model, EVEN IF they have used to SDK license to exclude those things. It's ridiculous and i hope they get sued.
And yet I can still slam Apple on online forums and while phoning friends while using an iPhone.
Except for Apples forums, they can't handle criticism even if its just an attempt to resolve a problem.
How exactly does one detect specific molecules, 700 light years away?
Don't forget the KY? Just what are you planning here, exactly?
Which button do i press for all of you to shut the fuck up?
They still like it doggystyle though
Dammit now my server has the Cap'n Crunch virus. Thanks a lot.
Yea but what BSD code has Apple locked away?
You can do the same thing by building a datacenter near water. You don't get the wave motion stuff but you would get the ability to use seawater as coolant.
"That's before you take into account that most of the benchmarks are based on ping-pong tests (minimal stack usage, no data) and not real-world usage."
Seems fine to me. I put all my new systems through the ping-pong test, sometimes i even win.
On a real computer i can install whatever i want to make up for any real or perceived lack of functionality, particularly when it comes to accessing specific websites and the plugins they make use of.
They apparently use Intels EFI framework, modified I'm sure by Apple to support various features like target disk mode.
The only checks I'm aware of are a CPUID check done by the XNU kernel, and once the OS boots, a kernel extension (dsmos.kext, abbreviated) retrieves an encryption key from the SMC chip and uses it to decrypt things like the dock and finder binaries.
PCs don't have the key so those things won't run.
It doesn't prove anything but what I said about the architecture being the same.
Yea i always thought that was cool, especially the optical/1/8" jack that can switch on the fly.
The switching is probably in the driver.
Actually i own a Mac Mini but thanks for playing.
Again for the purpose of debating architecture, Macs are commodity PC hardware. End of story.