But I personally don't want a monkey, cloned or otherwise.(What you do in your own home is your own biz) What WOULD be cool is if they would clone part of a chimp (eyes, organs, etc) like was posted here. That would mean vat grown replacement parts for us human-types aren't too far off.
Hacking your own box or network or toaster is a Good Thing(TM). It provides great insight into the security of your box, the holes in your network, or the crumbs in your toaster. This is different. This is a marketing ploy. "see see!! Our P-32SpaceA. box is still up. We are the most secure vendor ever!!" or even worse "We had our SuperDandy brand server up and it was hacked but we fixed all the holes so we are the most secure vendor ever!!" My point is this: don't believe that just because this box was up for x days with no problem does NOT mean that your box (with different hardware and software, run for different purpose, on a different network, ect ect) will also be up for x days with no problem.
So what exactly does this contest prove? Not that the box is secure. All it means is that the 31337 hax0r dudes couldn't find a script to gain root. How many people actually think that the real black hats will stop trying to transfer funds from NationsBank long enough to really try and brake this machine. And even if master hackers did get root why would they bother to boast about it with some lame "U R Ow3nd!" page? Most likley they'd use the information to hack other boxes.
So take these "security challenges" with a grain of salt. And please, no "Why doesn't every vendor do this." posts.
1) Man has Grand-Unified-Theory-Of-Everything(tm) 2) Man can make limitless energy, space ships, super duper A.I., and just about everything else. 3) Man is planning IPO. 4) Man will not say how because he wants to *patent* the technology.
Hmmm....
And the quotes all seemed to say one of two things:
Average Joe Board Member "Gosh, I don't know but I think it would be great if it's true!!"
I have two questions for our *ahem* esteemed guest..
1. What kind of qualifications do you have that make you a computer security "expert"? Please be specific.
2. I have never seen any mention of your name or site (as opposed to l0pht, rfp, ect) in regards to finding exploits, patching holes, making tools, and generally improving computer security. Please explain what you have done to help improve computer security for the masses.
GH Jesus saves souls and will redeem them for valuable prizes.
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Alright! All the monkey's we want! Cool!
But I personally don't want a monkey, cloned or otherwise.(What you do in your own home is your own biz) What WOULD be cool is if they would clone part of a chimp (eyes, organs, etc) like was posted here. That would mean vat grown replacement parts for us human-types aren't too far off.
I do not want what YOU haven't got.
Why is this crappy list on /. ? Just cause it says "Gadgets" in the title?
Please. Enough with the top ten _ANYTHING_ lists.
That's when Windows 2000 comes out!
Somebody had to say it...
G.H.
Hacking your own box or network or toaster is a Good Thing(TM). It provides great insight into the security of your box, the holes in your network, or the crumbs in your toaster. This is different. This is a marketing ploy. "see see!! Our P-32SpaceA. box is still up. We are the most secure vendor ever!!" or even worse "We had our SuperDandy brand server up and it was hacked but we fixed all the holes so we are the most secure vendor ever!!" My point is this: don't believe that just because this box was up for x days with no problem does NOT mean that your box (with different hardware and software, run for different purpose, on a different network, ect ect) will also be up for x days with no problem.
So what exactly does this contest prove? Not that the box is secure. All it means is that the 31337 hax0r dudes couldn't find a script to gain root. How many people actually think that the real black hats will stop trying to transfer funds from NationsBank long enough to really try and brake this machine. And even if master hackers did get root why would they bother to boast about it with some lame "U R Ow3nd!" page? Most likley they'd use the information to hack other boxes.
So take these "security challenges" with a grain of salt. And please, no "Why doesn't every vendor do this." posts.
G.H.
I do not want what YOU haven't got.
This is what I took from the article:
1) Man has Grand-Unified-Theory-Of-Everything(tm)
2) Man can make limitless energy, space ships, super duper A.I., and just about everything else.
3) Man is planning IPO.
4) Man will not say how because he wants to *patent* the technology.
Hmmm....
And the quotes all seemed to say one of two things:
Average Joe Board Member "Gosh, I don't know but I think it would be great if it's true!!"
Average Physicist "It's a crock."
Maybe it's just me, but burying the people who watch MTV sounds like a *REALLY* good idea.
I have two questions for our *ahem* esteemed guest..
1. What kind of qualifications do you have that make you a computer security "expert"? Please be specific.
2. I have never seen any mention of your name or site (as opposed to l0pht, rfp, ect) in regards to finding exploits, patching holes, making tools, and generally improving computer security. Please explain what you have done to help improve computer security for the masses.
GH
Jesus saves souls and will redeem them for valuable prizes.