Sadly, the AC is still wrong...stopping someone from using public funds to give or receive certain views is censorship. Note the 'certain views' part of that before any responses, please. Blocking
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views (aka, all speech, or all internet access) from public places is fine.
For example, the excuse you just read Playboy for the articles...well, Playboy has some damn good fiction in it. And no, if you haven't ever read it, I'm not talking about sex stories, I'm talking about completely normal short stories.
*looks around at the copy of Jurassic Park, the Connis Willis books 'Impossible Times', the photocopy of the article from EW about Buffy the Vampire Slayer (That happens to be for a class, I would never look at EW otherwise.), all from the local library*
You're misinformed. Libraries have always been for more then information. I used to work in one, I should know. And, BTW, ask any local librarian if she'd ever consider cutting article out of magazines so people can't see them. She'd be completely shocked at the idea.
Libraries, and librarians, do have an obligation to carry everything they can that fits in the budget. Period.
Blocking software is using their limited budget to stop information, which is like the CIA paying people to give government secrets to the Chinese government. It's completely opposite what their agenda is.
It sounds plausible to computer-illiterate people, while causing me, a CS major, to go, "What the hell are these people smoking, and where can I get some of it?"
First of all, we all set up mod_auth on our servers...we make up the extention.enc or something, and you access it by the name/password.
Here's the fun bit. We all use exactly the same name/password. Make it really common knowledge you can access any.enc page with the name/password 'one/two'.
Now, we are, in fact, using an encryption scheme. Now, we all decided, randomly, to use the same name/password.
Assuming we don't give the key out, it is now illegal for anyone to access the page...and we can sue the hell out of CyberSitter if they break our encryption and visit the page to judge if it's appropriate or not. It doesn't matter how they get there, assuming we didn't post the name/password, it's illegal.
Thus, they either have to start blocking every site that uses auth, illegally visit our page, or help repeal the law.:)
It's just a fun kind of payback: 'It's illegal for me to look at the list of your sites? Well, it's illegal for you to look at my site.':)
Some of us, if stuck in the desert with sterile urine and diet Mountain Dew, would drink the urine first. Notice the lack of smiley face signifing a joke at the end of that line. Let me tell you how I meet Mr. Diet Dew.
I had never had DMD before, and I saw a bottle lying on the counter. Not only was it DMD, but it was hot and flat...it was the first drink I've ever spit out, and I spit it out as fast as possible...didn't even turn my head 30 degrees to the sink, I spit it out all over the counter and floor, with some going back in the bottle, and some over the toaster oven....
I drink stale, hot normal Mountain Dew all the time, but if I only had hot, stale DMD in the desert, I would cool myself by pouring it over my body, begin sure to keep my mouth shut.
You know, I don't know anyone who even knows five of those languages. I can only think of one person who knows four. Let's take these one at a time.
C is a good thing to know, period, but you certainly don't need it to use Linux. You can even recompile your kernel (which is written in C) without knowing the tiniest bit of C. This is also the only language of this list I know, and I use Linux. (But I used Linux without knowing it. I know it because I'm a CS major.)
Perl...I could actually let you have this one.:) Perl is used in a lot of places in Linux...but, saying you need to know it is like saying you need to know Visual Basic to use Windows. And, like I said before, I don't know Perl, and I managed just fine.
I don't know anyone who knows Python. It's kinda like Perl, right? Anyway, I don't even have anything that can run Python programs on my (Linux) computer, so this is blatently silly.
LISP...HEHEHEHE. Right. Whatever. Maybe if you're a machosist or use emacs. (And if you use emacs, you cannot complain about it, because there are about a billion easier (AKA, simpler) text editors.) Does anything other then emacs even use this anymore? I thought I saw a WM that did recently...
Saying you need to know Java to use Linux is like saying you need to know...Java, to use Windows.:)
Oh, and the only use of PHP is inside a webserver, claiming you need to know it is like claiming you need to know ASP to use windows.
And why on earth would you have to know more then one shell scripting language? (That brings up the point why you think people need to know a shell language in the first place.) BTW, sh and bash are usually the same thing. Anyway, I don't know any shell scripting, except the use of for {}. (Windows command line, BTW, also lets you do a for loop, but no one knows about it.
Oh, and explain to me how I can do text manipulation in Windows with one click? For example, let's search a file for all lines that say 'foo', sort the list and remove all duplicate entries: sort filename.txt | grep foo | uniq > filename.out Now you tell me how to do that in Windows, with any amount of clicks, or typing, without having to manually compare each line.
-David T. C.
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Yeah, but if they were to try that, they'd instantly be screwed legally if it was ever shown they released a version of DeCSS. You can't sue someone for distributing DeCSS and release a version of it at the same time.:)
No judge in the world would let them get away with that, and most of them would fine them for wasting the court's time.:)
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'm sorry I invented that time machine and stoned Cain's wife. I'm also sorry I transported the entire Roanoke colony back in time with me to marry Adam and Eve's children. Look, I'm really sorry, okay?
The user 'Bruce Perens' with no dot at the end of his name is not me. Neither is the one who goes by the name 'Bruce Perens'. Or 'Signal 11'. Or 'Cyberllama'. In fact, everyone who goes by a name different then me is not me.
OMG. I'm following the feminazi and homosexual agenda, and I'm neither!
Wait, 12:01 is a little different, I'm plotting plantary takeover, but I'm sure as heck not going to share it with anyone unless they help.
BTW, does anyone find the thought that homosexual men would throw their lot in with 'feminazies' a little funny? Aren't feminazies supposed to hate men or something? I'm not that up on my right wing stereotypes, but that's what I seem to remember. I mean, gay male couples don't even have one woman in them. They'd logically be twices as bad, right?
NO. I am telling you that liberals created the phenomenon of censorship, to serve their sexually sadistic and socially repressive aims. Liberals practice censorship. This willingness to silence dissent and "unorthodox" views is how they have preserved the current legal structure which encourages and protects those who sexually exploit children. Pornography on the net is only one way they do their work, but it's a significant way, and we have the means to put a stop to it. Therefore I advocate that we grasp the nettle and do just that. By banning pornography we will not defeat censorship, but we will have struck a blow at the very core of the radical left-wing regime which practices censorship. It's true that even though pornography may be banned, it will still exist, and it will continue to exist until the evil and repressive practice of censorship is utterly and permanently halted. When censorship is no more, then and only then will we be able to cleanse this nation finally and completely of pornography.
Oh...man...this is hilarious. You're the funniest troll in a long time. I've never seen anyone logically argue we need censorship to stop the evils of censorship before.:) Kudos!
Erm...really? Have you tried? I've never seen or heard of anyone ever getting carded for anything at a library. If the library carried it, it would be on the shelves anyway...and, any librarian would be glad to help you find it.
Most librarys don't carry that specific, not cause of any political motive, but because it is completely inaccurate in many places. But, they do carry many books that tell you exactly what that one does.
Ah, but legally, according to the consitution, all states have to recognize the marriages of other states, so, CA is hoping, with this law, to stop people of the same gender from getting married in Hawaii and...waitjustasecond...since when can state laws override the consitution? Well, they're trying it with drugs, too. Maybe they want to suceed?:)
A trend would be a short term meme or meme complex. But something like the concept of 'freedom' or 'altuism' or, yes, even 'selfishness' is also a meme (or, maybe, a meme comlex), and those have been around for a looooooooong time.
Does anyone else find it funny that people would actually research raping someone? I mean, I can see a soon-to-be rapist following someone for a day or so, and finding out when they can grab the person (assuming it's not someone they already know), but getting on the internet and looking up how to rape someone? That's just a really weird idea.
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Sure there is. It's called the first amendment. It says the government (aka, the library) can't choose which speech to allow.
-David T. C.
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views (aka, all speech, or all internet access) from public places is fine.-David T. C.
For example, the excuse you just read Playboy for the articles...well, Playboy has some damn good fiction in it. And no, if you haven't ever read it, I'm not talking about sex stories, I'm talking about completely normal short stories.
-David T. C.
That's a classic. Something has negative relgious overtones for you, so you pick some other religion. :)
-David T. C.
You're misinformed. Libraries have always been for more then information. I used to work in one, I should know. And, BTW, ask any local librarian if she'd ever consider cutting article out of magazines so people can't see them. She'd be completely shocked at the idea.
Libraries, and librarians, do have an obligation to carry everything they can that fits in the budget. Period.
Library Bill of Rights
Expurgation of Library Materials: An Interpretation of the Library Bill of Rights
Access to Electronic Information, Services, and Networks: An Interpretation of the Library Bill of Rights
Blocking software is using their limited budget to stop information, which is like the CIA paying people to give government secrets to the Chinese government. It's completely opposite what their agenda is.
-David T. C.
It sounds plausible to computer-illiterate people, while causing me, a CS major, to go, "What the hell are these people smoking, and where can I get some of it?"
-David T. C.
Here's the fun bit. We all use exactly the same name/password. Make it really common knowledge you can access any .enc page with the name/password 'one/two'.
Now, we are, in fact, using an encryption scheme. Now, we all decided, randomly, to use the same name/password.
Assuming we don't give the key out, it is now illegal for anyone to access the page...and we can sue the hell out of CyberSitter if they break our encryption and visit the page to judge if it's appropriate or not. It doesn't matter how they get there, assuming we didn't post the name/password, it's illegal.
Thus, they either have to start blocking every site that uses auth, illegally visit our page, or help repeal the law. :)
It's just a fun kind of payback: 'It's illegal for me to look at the list of your sites? Well, it's illegal for you to look at my site.' :)
-David T. C.
I had never had DMD before, and I saw a bottle lying on the counter. Not only was it DMD, but it was hot and flat...it was the first drink I've ever spit out, and I spit it out as fast as possible...didn't even turn my head 30 degrees to the sink, I spit it out all over the counter and floor, with some going back in the bottle, and some over the toaster oven....
I drink stale, hot normal Mountain Dew all the time, but if I only had hot, stale DMD in the desert, I would cool myself by pouring it over my body, begin sure to keep my mouth shut.
-David T. C.
With anything except a version of emacs, that might have been sarcasm... :)
-David T. C.
And why on earth would you have to know more then one shell scripting language? (That brings up the point why you think people need to know a shell language in the first place.) BTW, sh and bash are usually the same thing. Anyway, I don't know any shell scripting, except the use of for {}. (Windows command line, BTW, also lets you do a for loop, but no one knows about it.
Oh, and explain to me how I can do text manipulation in Windows with one click? For example, let's search a file for all lines that say 'foo', sort the list and remove all duplicate entries:
sort filename.txt | grep foo | uniq > filename.out
Now you tell me how to do that in Windows, with any amount of clicks, or typing, without having to manually compare each line.
-David T. C.
No judge in the world would let them get away with that, and most of them would fine them for wasting the court's time. :)
-David T. C.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'm sorry I invented that time machine and stoned Cain's wife. I'm also sorry I transported the entire Roanoke colony back in time with me to marry Adam and Eve's children. Look, I'm really sorry, okay?
-David T. C.
The user 'Bruce Perens' with no dot at the end of his name is not me. Neither is the one who goes by the name 'Bruce Perens'. Or 'Signal 11'. Or 'Cyberllama'. In fact, everyone who goes by a name different then me is not me.
-David T. C.
(Someone had to say it.)
-David T. C.
Calling someone insane for saying that views different then yours are insane, is slightly insane in my book. Wait, did I just call myself insane?
-David T. C.
Wait, 12:01 is a little different, I'm plotting plantary takeover, but I'm sure as heck not going to share it with anyone unless they help.
BTW, does anyone find the thought that homosexual men would throw their lot in with 'feminazies' a little funny? Aren't feminazies supposed to hate men or something? I'm not that up on my right wing stereotypes, but that's what I seem to remember. I mean, gay male couples don't even have one woman in them. They'd logically be twices as bad, right?
-David T. C.
Oh...man...this is hilarious. You're the funniest troll in a long time. I've never seen anyone logically argue we need censorship to stop the evils of censorship before. :) Kudos!
-David T. C.
Well, we're definately filtered now. :)
-David T. C.
Anyway, don't you think all humans are filthy animals? Doesn't matter, we don't have that high an opinion of things like you either.
-David T. C.
Most librarys don't carry that specific, not cause of any political motive, but because it is completely inaccurate in many places. But, they do carry many books that tell you exactly what that one does.
-David T. C.
Telling librarians what you suggest is usually preaching to the choir. :)
-David T. C.
Actually, it is a good point. Saying that people are wrong to impose their belief on you is trying to impose your belief on them.
-David T. C.
Ah, but legally, according to the consitution, all states have to recognize the marriages of other states, so, CA is hoping, with this law, to stop people of the same gender from getting married in Hawaii and...waitjustasecond...since when can state laws override the consitution? Well, they're trying it with drugs, too. Maybe they want to suceed? :)
-David T. C.
A trend would be a short term meme or meme complex. But something like the concept of 'freedom' or 'altuism' or, yes, even 'selfishness' is also a meme (or, maybe, a meme comlex), and those have been around for a looooooooong time.
-David T. C.
Does anyone else find it funny that people would actually research raping someone? I mean, I can see a soon-to-be rapist following someone for a day or so, and finding out when they can grab the person (assuming it's not someone they already know), but getting on the internet and looking up how to rape someone? That's just a really weird idea.
-David T. C.