Shoplifting? We need to collect DNS for shoplifters? Holy shit! Are you just being intentionally belligerent or are you truly mind-fucked by your government?
What is needed is not MORE control, monitoring, and tracking, but MUCH, MUCH LESS. Giving up freedom and anonymity for security is unacceptable by any standard. Those who advocate the need for this kind of disgusting abuse of power need to be exposed and ousted from any position of authority or power as soon as possible.
As a previous poster stated, the state has no authority or right to invade my body in any way, shape or form. Whether or not someone has been convicted of a crime or not, fingerprinting is good enough and will have to be. I am not interested in making it any easier to solve murders, child rapes, etc. at the expense of the majority's anonymity and freedom. Sorry if that offends, but the alternative is for us all to live in a constant "police state" of mind. The discussion about additional government control or invasions into the personal lives of Americans must end with NEVER! Not in the name of security, not in the name of "helping" law enforcement, and not in the name of helping to convict. No, No, No.
America needs to wake up and amend the constitution to permanently prevent and ensure this kind of "tool" can never be used for anything other than curing diseases, advancing profitable science, and cloning animals. If it comes down to the "security" or "freedom" debate, I choose freedom everytime. And yes, I understand all of the "scare" tactics used and why people may be able to convince each other that sampling DNA can be good. So what? If I happen to get into trouble, and get arrested, that doesn't mean I should have to give up my anonymity then for life. Previous posters are correct, this would lead to the inevitable and mandatory "national" or even "global" DNA database.
And before anyone slams me...I am a middle-aged, white, conservative Catholic living on the eastern board of the U.S. I am a successful business owner, married and have a daughter. In addition, I donate time to help with prison charities and regularly speak on behalf of rape victims.
Must be talking about Apple... Microsoft has signed a deal with the devil and will find less professionals, i.e. I.T. Admins and vendors willing to play with Windows any longer. Most rational people are sick of the "security/DRM/Blah Blah Blah vs. user friendliness" fad this country has been riding...Just give us a usable OS, we'll handle our own security, thanks. And no, I don't hate Microsoft, just the products it produces.:)
Tbone is exactly correct. What has happened to this once great and free country? How have we allowed the Enemy Within when we have been forewarned for decades? The path we have allowed Emperor Bush and others who support his madness to take us scares me to death. A once free and powerful country for all who reside within its borders...being methodically reduced to an Orwellian like society. No one should now claim innocent ignorance to what has been allowed. We've seen the proof in the pudding; books, fiction, movies and debates for decades warned of the impending and coming darkness that is surveillance, deterioration of rights and the fundamental basis of freedom. Trade freedom for increased security...I don't think so. I choose to defend myself should invasion take place. I choose to defend my family and unfettered freedom with my own hands should the need arise. Alas dear friends we have begun to see the tides of change lap upon the shores of America in the form of the Enemies within who wrap themselves in the American Flag while speaking and acting in a most unAmerican way. God help us all for it is no longer "Morning in America" but "Midnight in the Garden of Evil."
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Shoplifting? We need to collect DNS for shoplifters? Holy shit!
Are you just being intentionally belligerent or are you truly mind-fucked by your government?
What is needed is not MORE control, monitoring, and tracking, but MUCH, MUCH LESS. Giving up freedom and anonymity for security is unacceptable by any standard. Those who advocate the need for this kind of disgusting abuse of power need to be exposed and ousted from any position of authority or power as soon as possible.
As a previous poster stated, the state has no authority or right to invade my body in any way, shape or form. Whether or not
someone has been convicted of a crime or not, fingerprinting is good enough and will have to be. I am not interested in making it any easier to solve murders, child rapes, etc. at the expense of the majority's anonymity and freedom. Sorry if that offends, but the alternative is for us all to live in a constant "police state" of mind. The discussion about additional government control or invasions into the personal lives of Americans must end with NEVER! Not in the name of security, not in the name of "helping" law enforcement, and not in the name of helping to convict. No, No, No.
America needs to wake up and amend the constitution to permanently prevent and ensure this kind of "tool" can never be used for anything other than curing diseases, advancing profitable science, and cloning animals. If it comes down to the "security" or "freedom" debate, I choose freedom everytime. And yes, I understand all of the "scare" tactics used and why people may be able to convince each other that sampling DNA can be good. So what? If I happen to get into trouble, and get arrested, that doesn't mean I should have to give up my anonymity then for life. Previous posters are correct, this would lead to the inevitable and mandatory "national" or even "global" DNA database.
And before anyone slams me...I am a middle-aged, white, conservative Catholic living on the eastern board of the U.S. I am a successful business owner, married and have a daughter. In addition, I donate time to help with prison charities and regularly speak on behalf of rape victims.
Anybody have any comments?
Must be talking about Apple... Microsoft has signed a deal with the devil and will find less professionals, i.e. I.T. Admins and vendors willing to play with Windows any longer. Most rational people are sick of the "security/DRM/Blah Blah Blah vs. user friendliness" fad this country has been riding...Just give us a usable OS, we'll handle our own security, thanks. And no, I don't hate Microsoft, just the products it produces. :)
Tbone is exactly correct. What has happened to this once great and free country? How have we allowed the Enemy Within when we have been forewarned for decades? The path we have allowed Emperor Bush and others who support his madness to take us scares me to death. A once free and powerful country for all who reside within its borders...being methodically reduced to an Orwellian like society. No one should now claim innocent ignorance to what has been allowed. We've seen the proof in the pudding; books, fiction, movies and debates for decades warned of the impending and coming darkness that is surveillance, deterioration of rights and the fundamental basis of freedom. Trade freedom for increased security...I don't think so. I choose to defend myself should invasion take place. I choose to defend my family and unfettered freedom with my own hands should the need arise. Alas dear friends we have begun to see the tides of change lap upon the shores of America in the form of the Enemies within who wrap themselves in the American Flag while speaking and acting in a most unAmerican way. God help us all for it is no longer "Morning in America" but "Midnight in the Garden of Evil."