I'm on Linux, so if I (1) turn off Java, and (2) go directly to http://www.fox.com/flash_front.html, the page loads fine. I have the Shockwave plug-in, so their silly ad-lookin' thing loads great. Those fascists. Now why would I want to go there, again?:)
I reiterate: they don't parse the user info correctly.
I'm using Netscape 4.7 here, on Linux, I have the Shockwave plugin, I have RealPlayer G2 installed, and I managed to view their site properly despite *their* best efforts.
They've told me I don't have Netscape >= 4.0, their site will only work on Windows or Mac, and that I also might want the plugins I have.
Therefore, they were wrong at least four times, and shouldn't be allowed near a text editor. --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
History of emersione, chapter 1 1: When one to begin with the God to produce to skies and the movement. 2: The track was without form and esvazía and the density was in the consideration with of the deep one; and ragia of the water of the God was moved in the consideration with of water. 3: And the visualized God, " is he here light of the left "; light 4 of and had one: This God of and has the light of buoa; and the God separated the light of the density. 5: The God visualized the system to ignite in the day and the density, of that had indicated the night. Irradiates one and had had one night and one morning, a day 6: And the visualized God, " was implied is firmament with the average of the water and the f4ez here he with her, who separated, to innaffiare of... --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
You're right, this is a big problem, and one which Cyc will hopefully solve. Don't expect *that* to be Open Source anytime soon, it requires a huge amount of tedious work to make something like Cyc, so they're pretty careful about holding onto it... --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
In order to come creature who lives with voltages he on the Pepsi-voltages!
Woo-ee, babelfish is smoking crack tonight. It's starting to sound like a religious prophet. The Bible, by Babelfish, anyone? --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
All that means is that they've perfected English->English, French->French, Spanish->Spanish, etc., etc.:)
I wish I could look at the source, if anyone has it, post a link or something.
Someone moderate this up, along with the (real) first post unfairly marked as redundant, and then spank the moderators for me. --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Dude, I'm using Navigator 4.05, and they told me to upgrade to Navigator 4? They're a bunch of crack-whores who can't parse user info right. --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Sigh. 'Emacs' did, but not the Lisp interpreter. So if we have to make a distinction, I'm not talking about 'TECO Emacs', and it sucks that they had to have the same name...
I quote, from GNU's Emacs FAQ:
23: Where does the name "Emacs" come from?
Emacs originally was an acronym for Editor MACroS. RMS says he "picked the name Emacs because `E' was not in use as an abbreviation on ITS at the time." The first Emacs was a set of macros written in 1976 at MIT by RMS for the editor TECO (Text Editor and COrrector, originally Tape Editor and COrrector) under ITS on a PDP-10. RMS had already extended TECO with a "real-time" full screen mode with reprogrammable keys. Emacs was started by Guy Steele as a project to unify the many divergent TECO command sets and key bindings at MIT, and completed by RMS.
Many people have said that TECO code looks a lot like line noise. See alt.lang.teco if you are interested. Someone has written a TECO implementation in Emacs Lisp (to find it, see question 90); it would be an interesting project to run the original TECO Emacs inside of Emacs.
And, actually, I could still get it to work under DOS on my P133. I should try it under VMWare sometime, just for hack value...
Hmm. Good question, whatever did happen to Future Crew. I guess they grew up. Here's Abyss's page. Apparently they were going through high school, and writing demos. That's the short, short version.:)
If you can get ahold of FCINFO.TXT (or something like that), it has more details. Like, they were founded in '86, Psi has been with them since the beginning, etc. They were our Gods, so it's hard to picture that they were just kids once, too.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Well, yeah, but where does it all start? That would take some serious research. Remember that "Microsoft" BASIC for the Altair was written on a CPU emulator. Much past that is just too early for me...:) --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Huh? Emacs and XFree are definitely hacks, in one way or another. (Originally perhaps more the April Fool's variety, I'm afraid...)
Emacs: Let's write a LISP INTERPRETER on top of UNIX and call it a TEXT EDITOR!!!
If that shouldn't be a Zippy quote, I don't know what is. I'm not even going into byte-compiling, since Java took that seriously... They even gave you hints by including Zippy, *and* a free psych evaluation for when you got frustrated.:)
XFree: Same thing.
Let's run X WINDOWS on the PC and use it as a LOW-COST SOLUTION!!!
You've got to realize that both of these things would be completely unrealistic for when it started. Oh, except for the fact that X on a Sun 4 was just as slow as X on a 486... The only thing scarier than that would be the X Server for DOS that I played around with for a while.
Of course, many people are doing great work on X, XFree, Emacs, XEmacs, etc., etc. Now. Just realize when they started (Emacs is an ancient MIT project!) and how silly it must have looked back then. (ed! ed is the standard! text editor.)
And patch is probably most responsible for forking code and saving bandwidth. In that order. Rather nominate the GPL, for preventing forking.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
What? I didn't *forget* nesticle, it came out much later. It is perhaps the best NES emulator out there (others support more mappers, but it has authentic sound, and good playability) but unfortunately lacks a Linux port.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Yep. That's what you did with OSes back them. Booted them. I mean... never mind.:)
Commercial PC's designed by one person. Hmm. Cray? Originally designed with a pencil and paper, and later, perhaps, on a Macintosh?;) --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Sometimes I agree with you, that Perl looks like sed, awk, shell, and C, beaten together without their consent. Which is basically what it is. And it's interpreted, which places its speed right between that of shell scripting and C. (think three orders of magnitude here, with shell scripting the slowest and C the fastest)
However, I've seen some very impressive, short Perl scripts. There's something to be said for three lines of obfuscated code that really *does* something. But woe betide the coder who finds maintenance programming written in Perl, for that is truly evil. --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Hmm. You've got a point, I have massive respect for emu authors, and I love the NES. However...
I'm also pretty impressed by MAME, MESS, and even the early C64 emulators. The NES really is a simpler system in some aspects... But the concept of emulating a completely different hardware platform, and doing it well, sure is neet.:)
The first NES emulators I remember were... PasoFami, it was Japanese, for Windows, and often found badly cracked and translated. Also, SuperPasoFami was the most functional SNES emulator for a while, until snes9x got better. iNES is pretty old, too. --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Second Reality for the C64 in 1997! I was amazed, the sound was very good (and the video somewhat limited for obvious reasons:) and it ran fine on vice, with a little tweaking.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
FWIW, I think he's right. That's the same thing I did, and given some experience, an unbiased user (possibly only an old school one, though) should come to the same conclusion. There are a few other factors coming into play that I believe were beyond the scope of that article, however.
1) Jobs that require people to use Windows NT for whatever task. This stops people from trying out anything else. Period. (unless they know better, and their boss doesn't mind / know)
2) Pre-existing bias. Specifically: absolute hatred of tweaking text files. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but how often do you read an article that pans Linux solely because the "techs" felt stupid not knowing what to edit in/etc, and end up mumbling about "arcane text files" and "Windows 3.1", showing both their ignorance and their preference. Contrast this with the same techs talking about how much better their Windows machine runs after they've "tweaked a few registry settings".
Apparently, a binary registry with a lousy GUI interface is more appealing to a Windows "tech" than is a simple text file. Why? What spawns such masochism? Maybe they just like the apparent power of messing with the internals of their system, which they shouldn't normally be doing in the first place... Or maybe they don't realize that they're just editing yet another.DAT file.:)
3) Microsoft is running scared. I wouldn't normally put this in, but I've been watching for a while, and that's the only conclusion I can make. I think they'll try to never port Office to Linux and try to stick to the crappiest and least time-consuming methods for when they need to port Unix applications (MainWin). This way, they can give Unix a bad name, and say it's not ready for the desktop, and that's why they only port their real apps to the Mac, and look at how bad Internet Explorer runs on Unix anyhow why would you want to use it... However, Linux is changing that. As people increasingly see it as a desktop alternative, they also see how whacked out the Microsoft PR Machine is lately.
Especially as Microsoft pays "independent" companies into finding deceiving results for them, and then sneak these results into the press. (Mindcraft - sure, the benchmarks were real, but try them with one NIC, or especially with Gigabit ethernet; The Gartner Group - outright deception on the part of Microsoft, and don't piss off the people writing the reports the bosses read.:) )
Don't get me wrong, Microsoft has always been cautious, but I've never seen them try to screw themselves into the ground the way Apple has until now. (Compare Copland or Taligent to Windows 95/98/2000; Closed hardware, no clones vs. irrational refusal to port application software to new OSes) And that scares me. I don't like Microsoft very much, and I don't know if they could redeem themselves now, but I have to thank them for introducing me to a commandline that was more functional than my C64's was. They couldn't keep that up, though, and they couldn't write a decent GUI Windowing System, (I liked GEOS on my C64 much better than Windows 3.1, and I didn't even like it all that much...)
However, I loved the author's characterizations of Microsoft, because they were humorous and right on the mark. All I can say is: "What has that customer got in his pocketsess? Give me..." (just picture salespeople, corrupted by the ring, hunched over...)
So, yes, some Windows users are stuck in the Windows world, and haven't seen the light. I, personally, never liked Windows, and when I found out about SunOS and later Linux, I never looked back. I grew up on DOS, basically, and Unix is so much better that... well, I can't tell you how wonderful it is to find an OS with a command line that has all the functionality I ever wanted and more... NT tried to hack that back in, but it's got lousy DOS compatibility baggage, and would make for really annoying, slow batch files. --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Oh god, don't say that! DEC Pathworks was the most horrible networked file system, especially with an underpowered VAX on the back end. It would represent files in 64k blocks, and eat them and not give back the space... Needless to say, our sysadmins never figured it out, so it was more likely their incompetence that made it so horrible. Now they're using a Windows "solution", and I hope they suffer for it.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Would you be allowed to do this if there *were* a fire in a crowded theatre? I don't think calmly saying "ahem. No problem, just a fire..." would have a very different effect.
Similarly, the extent of the Y2K problem is hotly under debate, and will be until, say, sometime after Jan. 1st, 2000... Therefore, one person's interpretation of events is very much still free speech. And if we don't believe him... well, we don't have to. The problem is, many people are harboring doubts, and this man is not alone...
And is everyone shouting doom? If so, shouldn't the FBI go after *them*? No, this doesn't make much sense, something is definitely missing. Are we just out of real news, here, guys? --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
but boy was that vague. They want to relax some of the export restrictions? So that whatever you're selling might only constitute 10% munitions? Or maybe only if you're using it wrong, or in the wrong market?
If this made sense to you, please post and clear it up for us. This doesn't even look like the government is considering giving us more bits for encryption! (They don't allow enough bits, and no kibbles, so write to your Congressman!) --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Apparently Red Hat took the heat for that, but since they skyrocketed, maybe we'll all forgive VA Linux and pretend this is standard.
600k, though? That's excessive. Especially for a file format that looks suspiciously like a zipped postscript file with some headers...:) --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Yeah, I agree with you, it's definitely a flaw in the system that allows people with connections to make money. But hey, what else is new?:)
I don't know how much money VA "needs", but with the amount they charge for their systems, they'll probably make it. I'll just be happy if they contribute back to the community, that's worth paying extra for... --- pb Reply or e-mail rather than vaguely moderate.
Slashdot Mirror
That's actually really funny,
:)
I'm on Linux, so if I (1) turn off Java, and (2) go directly to http://www.fox.com/flash_front.html, the page loads fine. I have the Shockwave plug-in, so their silly ad-lookin' thing loads great. Those fascists. Now why would I want to go there, again?
I reiterate: they don't parse the user info correctly.
I'm using Netscape 4.7 here, on Linux, I have the Shockwave plugin, I have RealPlayer G2 installed, and I managed to view their site properly despite *their* best efforts.
They've told me I don't have Netscape >= 4.0, their site will only work on Windows or Mac, and that I also might want the plugins I have.
Therefore, they were wrong at least four times, and shouldn't be allowed near a text editor.
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History of emersione, chapter 1
1: When one to begin with the God to produce to skies and the movement.
2: The track was without form and esvazía and the density was in the consideration with of the deep one; and ragia of the water of the God was moved in the consideration with of water.
3: And the visualized God, " is he here light of the left "; light
4 of and had one: This God of and has the light of buoa; and the God separated the light of the density.
5: The God visualized the system to ignite in the day and the density, of that had indicated the night. Irradiates one and had had one night and one morning, a day
6: And the visualized God, " was implied is firmament with the average of the water and the f4ez here he with her, who separated, to innaffiare of...
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You're right, this is a big problem, and one which Cyc will hopefully solve. Don't expect *that* to be Open Source anytime soon, it requires a huge amount of tedious work to make something like Cyc, so they're pretty careful about holding onto it...
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In order to come creature who lives with voltages he on the Pepsi-voltages!
Woo-ee, babelfish is smoking crack tonight. It's starting to sound like a religious prophet. The Bible, by Babelfish, anyone?
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All that means is that they've perfected English->English, French->French, Spanish->Spanish, etc., etc. :)
I wish I could look at the source, if anyone has it, post a link or something.
Someone moderate this up, along with the (real) first post unfairly marked as redundant, and then spank the moderators for me.
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It's pretty dead.
I can ping it, but port 80 is pretty non-responsive...
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Hopefully we'll see some better translators, because the current ones suck.
:)
And maybe we'll be able to add on some custom vocabulary, that would be really nice for computer journals (or chemistry, medicine, whatever...)
...at least the article wasn't in German, or something.
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Dude, I'm using Navigator 4.05, and they told me to upgrade to Navigator 4? They're a bunch of crack-whores who can't parse user info right.
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Sigh. 'Emacs' did, but not the Lisp interpreter. So if we have to make a distinction, I'm not talking about 'TECO Emacs', and it sucks that they had to have the same name...
I quote, from GNU's Emacs FAQ:
23: Where does the name "Emacs" come from?
Emacs originally was an acronym for Editor MACroS. RMS says he "picked
the name Emacs because `E' was not in use as an abbreviation on ITS at
the time." The first Emacs was a set of macros written in 1976 at MIT by
RMS for the editor TECO (Text Editor and COrrector, originally Tape
Editor and COrrector) under ITS on a PDP-10. RMS had already extended
TECO with a "real-time" full screen mode with reprogrammable keys. Emacs
was started by Guy Steele as a project to unify the
many divergent TECO command sets and key bindings at MIT, and completed
by RMS.
Many people have said that TECO code looks a lot like line noise. See
alt.lang.teco if you are interested. Someone has written a TECO
implementation in Emacs Lisp (to find it, see question 90); it would be
an interesting project to run the original TECO Emacs inside of Emacs.
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:) It really kicked ass, didn't it?
:)
:)
It ran great on my 386SX25 with 2MB of RAM, so...
And, actually, I could still get it to work under DOS on my P133. I should try it under VMWare sometime, just for hack value...
Hmm. Good question, whatever did happen to Future Crew. I guess they grew up. Here's Abyss's page. Apparently they were going through high school, and writing demos. That's the short, short version.
If you can get ahold of FCINFO.TXT (or something like that), it has more details. Like, they were founded in '86, Psi has been with them since the beginning, etc. They were our Gods, so it's hard to picture that they were just kids once, too.
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Ah, okay, thanks for the polite correction.
:)
I'm sorry, I definitely read that one too fast, so I'd expect people to show their ire.
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Well, yeah, but where does it all start? That would take some serious research. Remember that "Microsoft" BASIC for the Altair was written on a CPU emulator. Much past that is just too early for me... :)
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I always knew they had taste.
Insert something about US not caring about privacy rights here.
But why use BabelFish for something about England? No primary source?
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Huh? Emacs and XFree are definitely hacks, in one way or another. (Originally perhaps more the April Fool's variety, I'm afraid...)
:)
:)
Emacs: Let's write a LISP INTERPRETER on top of UNIX and call it a TEXT EDITOR!!!
If that shouldn't be a Zippy quote, I don't know what is. I'm not even going into byte-compiling, since Java took that seriously... They even gave you hints by including Zippy, *and* a free psych evaluation for when you got frustrated.
XFree: Same thing.
Let's run X WINDOWS on the PC and use it as a LOW-COST SOLUTION!!!
You've got to realize that both of these things would be completely unrealistic for when it started. Oh, except for the fact that X on a Sun 4 was just as slow as X on a 486... The only thing scarier than that would be the X Server for DOS that I played around with for a while.
Of course, many people are doing great work on X, XFree, Emacs, XEmacs, etc., etc. Now. Just realize when they started (Emacs is an ancient MIT project!) and how silly it must have looked back then. (ed! ed is the standard! text editor.)
And patch is probably most responsible for forking code and saving bandwidth. In that order. Rather nominate the GPL, for preventing forking.
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What? I didn't *forget* nesticle, it came out much later. It is perhaps the best NES emulator out there (others support more mappers, but it has authentic sound, and good playability) but unfortunately lacks a Linux port. :)
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Yep. That's what you did with OSes back them. Booted them. I mean... never mind. :)
;)
Commercial PC's designed by one person. Hmm. Cray? Originally designed with a pencil and paper, and later, perhaps, on a Macintosh?
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"What's Perl got that sed and awk don't have?" :)
Sometimes I agree with you, that Perl looks like sed, awk, shell, and C, beaten together without their consent. Which is basically what it is. And it's interpreted, which places its speed right between that of shell scripting and C. (think three orders of magnitude here, with shell scripting the slowest and C the fastest)
However, I've seen some very impressive, short Perl scripts. There's something to be said for three lines of obfuscated code that really *does* something. But woe betide the coder who finds maintenance programming written in Perl, for that is truly evil.
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Hmm. You've got a point, I have massive respect for emu authors, and I love the NES. However...
:)
I'm also pretty impressed by MAME, MESS, and even the early C64 emulators. The NES really is a simpler system in some aspects... But the concept of emulating a completely different hardware platform, and doing it well, sure is neet.
The first NES emulators I remember were... PasoFami, it was Japanese, for Windows, and often found badly cracked and translated. Also, SuperPasoFami was the most functional SNES emulator for a while, until snes9x got better. iNES is pretty old, too.
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Anyone remember the Second Reality demo for the PC in 1993? Amazing, right? Well, the only thing that could possibly top that would be...
:) and it ran fine on vice, with a little tweaking. :)
Second Reality for the C64 in 1997! I was amazed, the sound was very good (and the video somewhat limited for obvious reasons
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FWIW, I think he's right. That's the same thing I did, and given some experience, an unbiased user (possibly only an old school one, though) should come to the same conclusion. There are a few other factors coming into play that I believe were beyond the scope of that article, however.
/etc, and end up mumbling about "arcane text files" and "Windows 3.1", showing both their ignorance and their preference. Contrast this with the same techs talking about how much better their Windows machine runs after they've "tweaked a few registry settings".
.DAT file. :)
:) )
1) Jobs that require people to use Windows NT for whatever task. This stops people from trying out anything else. Period. (unless they know better, and their boss doesn't mind / know)
2) Pre-existing bias. Specifically: absolute hatred of tweaking text files. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but how often do you read an article that pans Linux solely because the "techs" felt stupid not knowing what to edit in
Apparently, a binary registry with a lousy GUI interface is more appealing to a Windows "tech" than is a simple text file. Why? What spawns such masochism? Maybe they just like the apparent power of messing with the internals of their system, which they shouldn't normally be doing in the first place... Or maybe they don't realize that they're just editing yet another
3) Microsoft is running scared. I wouldn't normally put this in, but I've been watching for a while, and that's the only conclusion I can make. I think they'll try to never port Office to Linux and try to stick to the crappiest and least time-consuming methods for when they need to port Unix applications (MainWin). This way, they can give Unix a bad name, and say it's not ready for the desktop, and that's why they only port their real apps to the Mac, and look at how bad Internet Explorer runs on Unix anyhow why would you want to use it... However, Linux is changing that. As people increasingly see it as a desktop alternative, they also see how whacked out the Microsoft PR Machine is lately.
Especially as Microsoft pays "independent" companies into finding deceiving results for them, and then sneak these results into the press. (Mindcraft - sure, the benchmarks were real, but try them with one NIC, or especially with Gigabit ethernet; The Gartner Group - outright deception on the part of Microsoft, and don't piss off the people writing the reports the bosses read.
Don't get me wrong, Microsoft has always been cautious, but I've never seen them try to screw themselves into the ground the way Apple has until now. (Compare Copland or Taligent to Windows 95/98/2000; Closed hardware, no clones vs. irrational refusal to port application software to new OSes) And that scares me. I don't like Microsoft very much, and I don't know if they could redeem themselves now, but I have to thank them for introducing me to a commandline that was more functional than my C64's was. They couldn't keep that up, though, and they couldn't write a decent GUI Windowing System, (I liked GEOS on my C64 much better than Windows 3.1, and I didn't even like it all that much...)
However, I loved the author's characterizations of Microsoft, because they were humorous and right on the mark. All I can say is: "What has that customer got in his pocketsess? Give me..." (just picture salespeople, corrupted by the ring, hunched over...)
So, yes, some Windows users are stuck in the Windows world, and haven't seen the light. I, personally, never liked Windows, and when I found out about SunOS and later Linux, I never looked back. I grew up on DOS, basically, and Unix is so much better that... well, I can't tell you how wonderful it is to find an OS with a command line that has all the functionality I ever wanted and more... NT tried to hack that back in, but it's got lousy DOS compatibility baggage, and would make for really annoying, slow batch files.
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Oh god, don't say that! DEC Pathworks was the most horrible networked file system, especially with an underpowered VAX on the back end. It would represent files in 64k blocks, and eat them and not give back the space... Needless to say, our sysadmins never figured it out, so it was more likely their incompetence that made it so horrible. Now they're using a Windows "solution", and I hope they suffer for it. :)
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Would you be allowed to do this if there *were* a fire in a crowded theatre? I don't think calmly saying "ahem. No problem, just a fire..." would have a very different effect.
Similarly, the extent of the Y2K problem is hotly under debate, and will be until, say, sometime after Jan. 1st, 2000... Therefore, one person's interpretation of events is very much still free speech. And if we don't believe him... well, we don't have to. The problem is, many people are harboring doubts, and this man is not alone...
And is everyone shouting doom? If so, shouldn't the FBI go after *them*? No, this doesn't make much sense, something is definitely missing. Are we just out of real news, here, guys?
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but boy was that vague. They want to relax some of the export restrictions? So that whatever you're selling might only constitute 10% munitions? Or maybe only if you're using it wrong, or in the wrong market?
If this made sense to you, please post and clear it up for us. This doesn't even look like the government is considering giving us more bits for encryption! (They don't allow enough bits, and no kibbles, so write to your Congressman!)
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What, do you mean by spamming people?
:)
Apparently Red Hat took the heat for that, but since they skyrocketed, maybe we'll all forgive VA Linux and pretend this is standard.
600k, though? That's excessive. Especially for a file format that looks suspiciously like a zipped postscript file with some headers...
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Yeah, I agree with you, it's definitely a flaw in the system that allows people with connections to make money. But hey, what else is new? :)
I don't know how much money VA "needs", but with the amount they charge for their systems, they'll probably make it. I'll just be happy if they contribute back to the community, that's worth paying extra for...
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