The list of complete models must be limited, or you get the chaos of half-assed support and conflicting drivers which exists in the Windows world. Apple has a reputation for ease of use, and part of the reason for that is having very specific models with very specific parts designed to work together. Once you open the gates to allow anyone to put just anything they want in the machine, you have support issues. It's a closed product with limited options.
If Apple products don't suit you, don't use them. Simple as that. But you come across as a maligned Apple-hater when you could just say "Meh, not for me" instead. I would expect better from someone with a low ID.
You really don't know how to resize columns in a spreadsheet app?
Try one of these options:
select all, double-click on the line between the columns
select all, right-click on any column and choose "optimal column width".
select all, click "Format... Column... Optimal WIdth".
Now was that so difficult? Geez. I bet you were confused when Office moved the print button off the screen in 2007.
Depends on the version of Excel. We still use Office XP (2002) here for many people and it often shreds leading zeros without warning. I use OpenOffice instead unless I have some need for trendlines in charts (OO has crappy trendline options IMHO).
You must not worry about creating tagged PDF's or any of the advanced features available when creating PDF's natively vs creating a PDF version of a printed page.
The ideal solution is not to lower American standards of living but to raise Indian standards. After all, if they had higher standards of living we wouldn't be in this mess.
From a practical standpoint there is no mechanism to allow that to magically happen. The socialist believes the answer lies in redistribution of wealth (as you have proposed). The pragmatist looks for the simplest workable solution, which may involve walling off the country (in a manner of speaking). The realist knows that this isn't just about pinching pennies but many hundreds of thousands (potentially millions) affected, losing their jobs and their livelihood as this happens.
Retraining isn't going to happen quickly enough to keep us out of a bigger depression in the future if these problems aren't addressed.
Are Indians less human than Americans?
The only people benefiting from this in the long-term are the Indians. The decision to outsource labor to India is bad for all Americans. As an American I find the situation disturbing.
Maybe you have something, and Microsoft has been shamed into action.
But to the "regular Joe", these ads make Microsoft seem stuffy, less flexible and full of stability / design problems as well as virus issues. I count that as a win for Apple at least in the short-term.
And if it fixes some of the glaring holes and issues in Microsoft products, everyone benefits in the end.
It's already happening in many ways, for instance most products are assembled / fabricated in Mexico or China, where the same laws to protect workers are not present. We're in a race to the bottom. In our current situation, some person somewhere willing to work for practically nothing, under harsh conditions, is competing with American workers. Since the US is not a third world country, our standard of living means we pay more for it.
Since we can't magically settle on a reduction in salaries unless we also magically have a reduction in our cost of living, American workers are getting hit from all sides. We will continue to have massive layoffs while our workers remain unemployed, and then the supporting businesses die. I've seen quite a bit of that in South Florida, as the restaurants / bars / construction companies have all been severely affected by the recession and housing crises. Immigrant workers (many of which are here illegally) take the manual labor jobs because they will work for almost nothing; they will gladly live in houses you wouldn't sit down in. If you're not paying cash for your gardener, the person who lays your tile or hangs your drywall, or the person picking your fruit, you're in the minority. I've lived here most of my life and the underground / illegal alien workforce is HUGE here.
But back to our race to the bottom. What's the first wave, the first sign? Recent high school graduates can't find jobs of any kind -- it's not like it used to be. No one is hiring. Something like 800 people applied for 7 county jobs recently. When local businesses close because consumers aren't buying their goods, the people who own those businesses can't buy things either.
You know, now that you bring it up, perhaps it would be better to isolate ourselves while the rest of the world catches up. We have enough people here and enough companies. We're one of the largest markets in the world. It could probably be done.
In the meantime, let's begin imposing taxes to every US company with holdings in some offshore bank -- fight their attempts to evade U.S. taxes. That's happening more and more, and when US banks don't have money in deposits, they don't have money to lend, which hurts our businesses. Which hurts our people.
Yes exactly, we (as a people) foolishly choose the cheapest every time. No one takes quality seriously anymore -- when was the last time you bought a software program not riddles with bugs? Nowadays only the most glaring bugs are fixed in most commercial software programs and you have to purchase another version to get the functionality you wanted (and thought you bought) in the first place.
Free movement of labor... when you're dealing with two economies where the standard of living is almost an order of magnitude different... means both economies eventually settle somewhere in the middle. That's bad for at least one of the parties.
In this example, I can hire "x" Indian programmers for the price of 1 American programmer, where x > 1. Faking ads to eliminate American workers not only hurts the American workers, it hurts our economy as well. It's not about what is best for the company -- in many cases it's what is best for the American worker that counts.
And yes I was once downsized (fired for a trivial excuse after years working for a company) by H1-B's willing to work weekends, nights, and sleep in their cubes. They lived in groups in houses / apartments and pooled vehicles. The fact they were willing to put up with so much says something about the situation. It tore our MIS department to pieces, where there was once 15 American workers there were only 4 when I left, all in management roles.
Meh. I have several Fedora 8 fileservers already. They're not a problem and I still get updates. Since these are being shipped countrywide I don't want them coming back for any reason. One of the proposed additional uses for these will be implementing a Windows VM for WSUS... when that VM needs to be upgraded we will send out another VM image over the WAN. Bring up the new VM and down the old and we're set.
If I were concerned with lifecycles I would be concerned about my (many) Windows 2000 VM's or my SQL Server 2000 boxes or my Windows 2000 DC's... replacing DC's remotely when they're on physical machines can be ugly. I'll take the known issues over the possible additional problems anyday. How else would 1 network admin and myself manage dozens of servers? We're a small crew here servicing 300 employees and 19 locations.
The loads can be deceiving. This is the load from our main fileserver, which services 100 users or so directly and another 100 or so indirectly. It also aggregates backups from all the servers in the colo and preps them for rsync to another offsite location. It rar's over 30GB daily. Another server connects to it every other day and retrieves all that plus any changes to any files on this server down via rsync. It's fairly busy -- the rsync itself takes more than 18 hours over 2 bonded T1's.
12:25:01 up 43 days, 20:36, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
And this is from our host system with 300 users. It gets banged on quite hard, although most of the banging is I/O. This point-of-sale system is used from approx 7:30 am ET through 12 am PT... and the remainder of the time it's backing up, replicating data etc.
09:24:52 up 43 days, 18:14, 5 users, load average: 13.52, 14.37, 12.95
Both are dual-CPU (E5450) BL460c blades running RHEL 5.4 connected to an HP EVA 4400 SAN. At some point when I catch a breath I'm going to virtualize the fileserver and throw ESX on that blade.
But have you tried running applications on the Windows XP clients utilizing backend/database files on a samba share, when the app requires locking files, keeping those locks for extended periods of time, and sharing those files between multiple simultaneous users?
Yes, I've done that sort of thing since Red Hat 5.2 (yes, 1995-era). TaxWorks is an example of one commercial accounting program which works well over Samba, but I've used Best software (owned by H&R Block) with no problems. This was for roughly a dozen tax preparers.
Shared spreadsheets? Used many many times daily throughout our business. No reported issues. Opening other shared files? No problems. I've never heard of anyone with your level of problems with Samba. Perhaps you have bad hardware, or your configuration is incorrect. I find that much more likely since I've implemented it on HP DL320's, 360's, 380's, BL460c's, a Dell Pentium-75, several whiteboxes, a handful of laptops, my MacBook Pro and who knows what other random hardware and it has always worked.
Things I might check on your side would be: correct UNIX permissions on shares, integration of the Samba sever with your DC's (and since you're a Windows shop it needs to be integrated with your Active Directory). Verify local filesystems are setup correctly (such as ext3 over some form of RAID). Check your LogWatch logs (you are getting them emailed to you daily, right?), dmesg (for boot-time issues), and the host of messages in/var/log/samba and/var/log/messages . Obviously something isn't right or you wouldn't have these issues. Perhaps the cause can be found in the logs.
There are thousands of vendors using it in their shipping products right now, and they wouldn't be doing that if they had the kind of problems you describe. My present company wouldn't have approved rolling out 16 Fedora-based file servers nationwide if they thought Samba sharing was or would be an issue. In my world it is not. Oh and yes I'm 2/3 of the way to getting my RHCE, something I'll be quite proud to have.
Regardless of which filesystem you choose, plugging the drive into a server of some sort and implementing Samba allows you to use NTFS, HFS+, ext3 or other modern filesystems as you see fit. On the other hand, if you wish to plug and play the external drive to different machines (all 3 OS's mentioned) then I suggest NTFS. FAT32 just isn't usable for most of us; 4 GB per file is too small.
And Windows clients frequently have compatibility issues with Samba servers all the time, especially when Microsoft releases updates to the client software. Esp. when it comes to things like domain membership, and file permission.
Certainly not in my experience. Our main fileserver is RHEL 5.4 and we have approx 100 people over 19 locations connecting to it daily. It gets its data from our SAN. At 3 locations we have Fedora 8 systems serving up Samba shares (large local files that aren't good candidates for the WAN). The boxes are set to use domain credentials (Windows 2000 DC's) and everything passes through as you'd expect -- no prompting for credentials and new users' home folders are setup automatically the first time they connect. We also have mopiers in all 19 locations (some locations have several) accessing -- you guessed it -- the RHEL 5.4 fileserver over the WAN. No issues, files are owned by that user (except for folders with sticky groups). Security is a mix of both UNIX and Samba permissions.
Main Terminal servers are 2003 R2 (and all those users access data from this fileserver), user desktops are XP (and my MacBook Pro running 10.4) along with a handful of Vista and Windows 7 systems in use by MIS. Works very well for us. We've been doing this since RHEL 3. It's actually kinda boring since it requires such little maintenance. Several of these servers cross-replicate via rsync every night so the backup copies are always on at least one other location's server (not directly accessible by end users).
Yes, one of these servers uses NFS. I forget which one, since I set it up it's been uneventful. I remember there was a reason I wanted to use NFS but can't remember why, and I'm too lazy to login over the VPN to see which one. I do remember it's something critical we needed and NFS worked better.
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Now picture 40 of those going off -- or even 10 -- and you get the idea. Totally stupid move on the Slovaks' part.
"Looking for" a hibernate feature? What? I'm using 10.4 and the hibernate works fine. The reboot is somewhere around 90 seconds. Big deal.
The list of complete models must be limited, or you get the chaos of half-assed support and conflicting drivers which exists in the Windows world. Apple has a reputation for ease of use, and part of the reason for that is having very specific models with very specific parts designed to work together. Once you open the gates to allow anyone to put just anything they want in the machine, you have support issues. It's a closed product with limited options.
If Apple products don't suit you, don't use them. Simple as that. But you come across as a maligned Apple-hater when you could just say "Meh, not for me" instead. I would expect better from someone with a low ID.
Mod parent up, Informative please.
Grandpa's off his meds again apparently.
"Now Bill, go sit down and we'll bring you some nice iced tea. You like iced tea, don't you? Just follow the nurse and we'll be right there."
You really don't know how to resize columns in a spreadsheet app?
Try one of these options:
select all, double-click on the line between the columns
select all, right-click on any column and choose "optimal column width".
select all, click "Format... Column... Optimal WIdth".
Now was that so difficult? Geez. I bet you were confused when Office moved the print button off the screen in 2007.
Depends on the version of Excel. We still use Office XP (2002) here for many people and it often shreds leading zeros without warning. I use OpenOffice instead unless I have some need for trendlines in charts (OO has crappy trendline options IMHO).
You must not worry about creating tagged PDF's or any of the advanced features available when creating PDF's natively vs creating a PDF version of a printed page.
From a practical standpoint there is no mechanism to allow that to magically happen. The socialist believes the answer lies in redistribution of wealth (as you have proposed). The pragmatist looks for the simplest workable solution, which may involve walling off the country (in a manner of speaking). The realist knows that this isn't just about pinching pennies but many hundreds of thousands (potentially millions) affected, losing their jobs and their livelihood as this happens.
Retraining isn't going to happen quickly enough to keep us out of a bigger depression in the future if these problems aren't addressed.
Are Indians less human than Americans?
The only people benefiting from this in the long-term are the Indians. The decision to outsource labor to India is bad for all Americans. As an American I find the situation disturbing.
Maybe you have something, and Microsoft has been shamed into action.
But to the "regular Joe", these ads make Microsoft seem stuffy, less flexible and full of stability / design problems as well as virus issues. I count that as a win for Apple at least in the short-term.
And if it fixes some of the glaring holes and issues in Microsoft products, everyone benefits in the end.
I've had many more managers in total than I've had jobs (perhaps double the number). Although certainly this isn't true for everyone.
It's already happening in many ways, for instance most products are assembled / fabricated in Mexico or China, where the same laws to protect workers are not present. We're in a race to the bottom. In our current situation, some person somewhere willing to work for practically nothing, under harsh conditions, is competing with American workers. Since the US is not a third world country, our standard of living means we pay more for it.
Since we can't magically settle on a reduction in salaries unless we also magically have a reduction in our cost of living, American workers are getting hit from all sides. We will continue to have massive layoffs while our workers remain unemployed, and then the supporting businesses die. I've seen quite a bit of that in South Florida, as the restaurants / bars / construction companies have all been severely affected by the recession and housing crises. Immigrant workers (many of which are here illegally) take the manual labor jobs because they will work for almost nothing; they will gladly live in houses you wouldn't sit down in. If you're not paying cash for your gardener, the person who lays your tile or hangs your drywall, or the person picking your fruit, you're in the minority. I've lived here most of my life and the underground / illegal alien workforce is HUGE here.
But back to our race to the bottom. What's the first wave, the first sign? Recent high school graduates can't find jobs of any kind -- it's not like it used to be. No one is hiring. Something like 800 people applied for 7 county jobs recently. When local businesses close because consumers aren't buying their goods, the people who own those businesses can't buy things either.
You know, now that you bring it up, perhaps it would be better to isolate ourselves while the rest of the world catches up. We have enough people here and enough companies. We're one of the largest markets in the world. It could probably be done.
In the meantime, let's begin imposing taxes to every US company with holdings in some offshore bank -- fight their attempts to evade U.S. taxes. That's happening more and more, and when US banks don't have money in deposits, they don't have money to lend, which hurts our businesses. Which hurts our people.
Perhaps your definition of libel is different from my definition of libel, which does not apply under these circumstances.
Yes exactly, we (as a people) foolishly choose the cheapest every time. No one takes quality seriously anymore -- when was the last time you bought a software program not riddles with bugs? Nowadays only the most glaring bugs are fixed in most commercial software programs and you have to purchase another version to get the functionality you wanted (and thought you bought) in the first place.
Free movement of labor... when you're dealing with two economies where the standard of living is almost an order of magnitude different... means both economies eventually settle somewhere in the middle. That's bad for at least one of the parties.
In this example, I can hire "x" Indian programmers for the price of 1 American programmer, where x > 1. Faking ads to eliminate American workers not only hurts the American workers, it hurts our economy as well. It's not about what is best for the company -- in many cases it's what is best for the American worker that counts.
And yes I was once downsized (fired for a trivial excuse after years working for a company) by H1-B's willing to work weekends, nights, and sleep in their cubes. They lived in groups in houses / apartments and pooled vehicles. The fact they were willing to put up with so much says something about the situation. It tore our MIS department to pieces, where there was once 15 American workers there were only 4 when I left, all in management roles.
How does that work when IPV6 becomes the reality?
Meh. I have several Fedora 8 fileservers already. They're not a problem and I still get updates. Since these are being shipped countrywide I don't want them coming back for any reason. One of the proposed additional uses for these will be implementing a Windows VM for WSUS... when that VM needs to be upgraded we will send out another VM image over the WAN. Bring up the new VM and down the old and we're set.
If I were concerned with lifecycles I would be concerned about my (many) Windows 2000 VM's or my SQL Server 2000 boxes or my Windows 2000 DC's... replacing DC's remotely when they're on physical machines can be ugly. I'll take the known issues over the possible additional problems anyday. How else would 1 network admin and myself manage dozens of servers? We're a small crew here servicing 300 employees and 19 locations.
Thanks for all the hard work you've done and the world you've helped open! Enjoy your birthday!
Still a good idea to patch it and update the kernel every once in while. But I hear what you're saying.
The loads can be deceiving. This is the load from our main fileserver, which services 100 users or so directly and another 100 or so indirectly. It also aggregates backups from all the servers in the colo and preps them for rsync to another offsite location. It rar's over 30GB daily. Another server connects to it every other day and retrieves all that plus any changes to any files on this server down via rsync. It's fairly busy -- the rsync itself takes more than 18 hours over 2 bonded T1's.
12:25:01 up 43 days, 20:36, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
And this is from our host system with 300 users. It gets banged on quite hard, although most of the banging is I/O. This point-of-sale system is used from approx 7:30 am ET through 12 am PT... and the remainder of the time it's backing up, replicating data etc.
09:24:52 up 43 days, 18:14, 5 users, load average: 13.52, 14.37, 12.95
Both are dual-CPU (E5450) BL460c blades running RHEL 5.4 connected to an HP EVA 4400 SAN. At some point when I catch a breath I'm going to virtualize the fileserver and throw ESX on that blade.
But have you tried running applications on the Windows XP clients utilizing backend/database files on a samba share, when the app requires locking files, keeping those locks for extended periods of time, and sharing those files between multiple simultaneous users?
Yes, I've done that sort of thing since Red Hat 5.2 (yes, 1995-era). TaxWorks is an example of one commercial accounting program which works well over Samba, but I've used Best software (owned by H&R Block) with no problems. This was for roughly a dozen tax preparers.
/var/log/samba and /var/log/messages . Obviously something isn't right or you wouldn't have these issues. Perhaps the cause can be found in the logs.
Shared spreadsheets? Used many many times daily throughout our business. No reported issues. Opening other shared files? No problems. I've never heard of anyone with your level of problems with Samba. Perhaps you have bad hardware, or your configuration is incorrect. I find that much more likely since I've implemented it on HP DL320's, 360's, 380's, BL460c's, a Dell Pentium-75, several whiteboxes, a handful of laptops, my MacBook Pro and who knows what other random hardware and it has always worked.
Things I might check on your side would be: correct UNIX permissions on shares, integration of the Samba sever with your DC's (and since you're a Windows shop it needs to be integrated with your Active Directory). Verify local filesystems are setup correctly (such as ext3 over some form of RAID). Check your LogWatch logs (you are getting them emailed to you daily, right?), dmesg (for boot-time issues), and the host of messages in
There are thousands of vendors using it in their shipping products right now, and they wouldn't be doing that if they had the kind of problems you describe. My present company wouldn't have approved rolling out 16 Fedora-based file servers nationwide if they thought Samba sharing was or would be an issue. In my world it is not. Oh and yes I'm 2/3 of the way to getting my RHCE, something I'll be quite proud to have.
Regardless of which filesystem you choose, plugging the drive into a server of some sort and implementing Samba allows you to use NTFS, HFS+, ext3 or other modern filesystems as you see fit. On the other hand, if you wish to plug and play the external drive to different machines (all 3 OS's mentioned) then I suggest NTFS. FAT32 just isn't usable for most of us; 4 GB per file is too small.
And Windows clients frequently have compatibility issues with Samba servers all the time, especially when Microsoft releases updates to the client software. Esp. when it comes to things like domain membership, and file permission.
Certainly not in my experience. Our main fileserver is RHEL 5.4 and we have approx 100 people over 19 locations connecting to it daily. It gets its data from our SAN. At 3 locations we have Fedora 8 systems serving up Samba shares (large local files that aren't good candidates for the WAN). The boxes are set to use domain credentials (Windows 2000 DC's) and everything passes through as you'd expect -- no prompting for credentials and new users' home folders are setup automatically the first time they connect. We also have mopiers in all 19 locations (some locations have several) accessing -- you guessed it -- the RHEL 5.4 fileserver over the WAN. No issues, files are owned by that user (except for folders with sticky groups). Security is a mix of both UNIX and Samba permissions.
Main Terminal servers are 2003 R2 (and all those users access data from this fileserver), user desktops are XP (and my MacBook Pro running 10.4) along with a handful of Vista and Windows 7 systems in use by MIS. Works very well for us. We've been doing this since RHEL 3. It's actually kinda boring since it requires such little maintenance. Several of these servers cross-replicate via rsync every night so the backup copies are always on at least one other location's server (not directly accessible by end users).
Yes, one of these servers uses NFS. I forget which one, since I set it up it's been uneventful. I remember there was a reason I wanted to use NFS but can't remember why, and I'm too lazy to login over the VPN to see which one. I do remember it's something critical we needed and NFS worked better.
It's a test of his metal (mettle).