So, theism is also not serious philosophy? I don't agree with 'em, but the god question has been one of the most important ones in all of human thought, and its place is firmly in philosophy.
The summary of the article isn't really very accurate. It's better to see this as a way to get a huge amount of labeled image data quickly--the players label it as a by-product of playing the game. The idea is then that the data set could be used as input to a learning algorithm.
Bayesian learning is precisely the kind of thing that AI/ML people do in order to "learn." (There are many others, too.) It isn't even new, but has gotten some slashdot popularity because of the new spam filters.
Well, that is the purpose of my feedback: to inform you that I don't feel like I can use Inkscape comfortably yet, but that I am looking forward to the day (hopefully soon) when I can. I didn't mean to imply that you as developers don't care about users. I'm sorry if I gave that impression, since your very presence responding to deeply buried rants on slashdot certainly implies an impressive level of attention.
My Wacom ArtZ II only has two buttons on the pen. Does the Intuos pen really have three buttons on it? I thought it had a rocker switch like the ArtZ. I know they can be rebound, but I like the bindings as they are and they are important to the way I work.
But we never get this kind of feedback from those who really use the program every day (and there are plenty of such users).
One reason for this might be that those "newcomers" are turned away by their inability to work comfortably with the software, so they never become people who use the program every day. Kind of a, you know, pied piper situation.
That said, if you were to implement the ability to remap keys, and at least make sure that we could rearrange the interface to be compatible with the way we work, then we could have no possible complaint about this stuff.
As for space toggling panning, as I wrote in another thread: 1) we already use space for switching to Selector and back; 2) if you like space+left drag for panning, why not use our shift+right drag for it. Keys are different but the key+mouse principle is the same.
Well, I see that the difference is arbitrary, for but those of us who have been using space for this for ten years, that's like asking us to use Alt in order to create capital letters.
Well, as a long time photoshop and illustrator and flash user, who welcomes free/open-source replacements, all I can say is that I'd have a better first-time experience if the basic keys were the same as the "standard" for these apps. I think that there are more of us than there are Xara X users, and nobody should ever strive to borrow from the Gimp's interface.;)
I understand not wanting to be internally inconsistent. With regard to that, having space act like holding the middle button for panning would not seem to tread on any existing functionality, but would make it more compatible with the adobe/macromedia keys. I agree that there's no actual point to a panning tool.
Fine, but reproducible crashes are easy to fix. They are also generally easy for people using the software to avoid, once they are known. The really bad bugs are the ones where the program crashes unpredictably, and I have experienced that several times with Inkscape on win32 so far. Do you really want a bug report like "once when I selected the caligraphic brush and drew some lines, inkscape crashed/exited immediately"?
Exactly at the moment I thought, "hey, this is pretty slick," Inkscape (win32) crashed/exited on me without warning. That was only about ten seconds after launching it. After launching again, it froze on the "open" dialog. Still, I am looking forward to using this when it becomes more stable.
Also, what's wrong with using the standard keyset that Adobe and Macromedia apps use? For example, holding space should enable the panning tool, and holding alt (not shift) should make the zoom tool zoom out rather than in. Also, double-clicking on the zoom tool should revert to "standard" zoom--not open the preferences panel. (??) I realize that these are arbitrary choices, but there is substantial value in making the same arbitrary choices as everyone else, especially if this seeks to be a replacement for those applications.
Yeah, well, the MSN maps are much older (I think the USGS ones from the mid-early 1990s) than the Google ones. For instance, it shows Carnegie Mellon's campus without many of its current buildings.
I think that's a pretty bad argument. If you're already running software from some developers, then you are implicitly trusting them; which means you should trust changes that they want to make to their code. Still, how long does it take to test??
I'm not saying that there is no practical de facto significance to them, just that, as the poster has realized, passing MCSE has little to do with actually understanding the material.
Doesn't everybody do this in high school or college? Is there something special about this one?
In my mind, something that reduced the complexity of Conway's game would be interesting, but there seems to be no reason to increase it, since loads of interesting things (like computation!) already happen at the macro scale.
I second that. I've participated about four times before, and it's always a great weekend of fun. There are very little restrictions so almost anyone should be able to participate.
Jeeeez. Is someone a little defensive of his turf? (It's not even like Cohen invented the idea of peer-to-peer software delivery.)
Microsoft Research, and many other research labs and universities, publish papers on "vaporware" every day. Only, this is not vaporware because it is not supposed to be a product--even if some news media who don't know the difference between Microsoft and Microsoft Research make that mistake, Bram and others should know better. On the other hand, research on algorithms is fundamental to the development of the next generation of products, because no amount of pure coding can make the kinds of technological leaps that are necessary. To that end, it behooves us not to bash it, or at least only to evaluate it based on what it is.
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I think it might be more profitable to redirect the power to the processor.
Okay, but then who are we supposed to enslave in order to build our space weapons?
That's because the Cylons are ... already among us.
And how are we supposed to ward off a cylon attack without space weapons?
So, theism is also not serious philosophy? I don't agree with 'em, but the god question has been one of the most important ones in all of human thought, and its place is firmly in philosophy.
The summary of the article isn't really very accurate. It's better to see this as a way to get a huge amount of labeled image data quickly--the players label it as a by-product of playing the game. The idea is then that the data set could be used as input to a learning algorithm.
Bayesian learning is precisely the kind of thing that AI/ML people do in order to "learn." (There are many others, too.) It isn't even new, but has gotten some slashdot popularity because of the new spam filters.
Well, that is the purpose of my feedback: to inform you that I don't feel like I can use Inkscape comfortably yet, but that I am looking forward to the day (hopefully soon) when I can. I didn't mean to imply that you as developers don't care about users. I'm sorry if I gave that impression, since your very presence responding to deeply buried rants on slashdot certainly implies an impressive level of attention.
My Wacom ArtZ II only has two buttons on the pen. Does the Intuos pen really have three buttons on it? I thought it had a rocker switch like the ArtZ. I know they can be rebound, but I like the bindings as they are and they are important to the way I work.
But we never get this kind of feedback from those who really use the program every day (and there are plenty of such users).
One reason for this might be that those "newcomers" are turned away by their inability to work comfortably with the software, so they never become people who use the program every day. Kind of a, you know, pied piper situation.
That said, if you were to implement the ability to remap keys, and at least make sure that we could rearrange the interface to be compatible with the way we work, then we could have no possible complaint about this stuff.
As for space toggling panning, as I wrote in another thread: 1) we already use space for switching to Selector and back; 2) if you like space+left drag for panning, why not use our shift+right drag for it. Keys are different but the key+mouse principle is the same.
Well, I see that the difference is arbitrary, for but those of us who have been using space for this for ten years, that's like asking us to use Alt in order to create capital letters.
Thank you for the reply!
;)
Well, as a long time photoshop and illustrator and flash user, who welcomes free/open-source replacements, all I can say is that I'd have a better first-time experience if the basic keys were the same as the "standard" for these apps. I think that there are more of us than there are Xara X users, and nobody should ever strive to borrow from the Gimp's interface.
I understand not wanting to be internally inconsistent. With regard to that, having space act like holding the middle button for panning would not seem to tread on any existing functionality, but would make it more compatible with the adobe/macromedia keys. I agree that there's no actual point to a panning tool.
Fine, but reproducible crashes are easy to fix. They are also generally easy for people using the software to avoid, once they are known. The really bad bugs are the ones where the program crashes unpredictably, and I have experienced that several times with Inkscape on win32 so far. Do you really want a bug report like "once when I selected the caligraphic brush and drew some lines, inkscape crashed/exited immediately"?
Exactly at the moment I thought, "hey, this is pretty slick," Inkscape (win32) crashed/exited on me without warning. That was only about ten seconds after launching it. After launching again, it froze on the "open" dialog. Still, I am looking forward to using this when it becomes more stable.
Also, what's wrong with using the standard keyset that Adobe and Macromedia apps use? For example, holding space should enable the panning tool, and holding alt (not shift) should make the zoom tool zoom out rather than in. Also, double-clicking on the zoom tool should revert to "standard" zoom--not open the preferences panel. (??) I realize that these are arbitrary choices, but there is substantial value in making the same arbitrary choices as everyone else, especially if this seeks to be a replacement for those applications.
Yeah, well, the MSN maps are much older (I think the USGS ones from the mid-early 1990s) than the Google ones. For instance, it shows Carnegie Mellon's campus without many of its current buildings.
I don't know, I know a lot of people who majored in counter-strike in college.
I think that's a pretty bad argument. If you're already running software from some developers, then you are implicitly trusting them; which means you should trust changes that they want to make to their code. Still, how long does it take to test??
I'm not saying that there is no practical de facto significance to them, just that, as the poster has realized, passing MCSE has little to do with actually understanding the material.
Yes, MCSE is useless.
Doesn't everybody do this in high school or college? Is there something special about this one?
In my mind, something that reduced the complexity of Conway's game would be interesting, but there seems to be no reason to increase it, since loads of interesting things (like computation!) already happen at the macro scale.
Why did you guys have to call this "war driving"? That was a bad choice.
Maybe you just have a crappy one. My $60 lite-on drive works perfectly every time.
A mosquito cried out in pain:
"A chemist has poisoned my brain!"
The cause of his sorrow
was para-dichloro-
diphenyltrichloroethane
I second that. I've participated about four times before, and it's always a great weekend of fun. There are very little restrictions so almost anyone should be able to participate.
Jeeeez. Is someone a little defensive of his turf? (It's not even like Cohen invented the idea of peer-to-peer software delivery.)
Microsoft Research, and many other research labs and universities, publish papers on "vaporware" every day. Only, this is not vaporware because it is not supposed to be a product--even if some news media who don't know the difference between Microsoft and Microsoft Research make that mistake, Bram and others should know better. On the other hand, research on algorithms is fundamental to the development of the next generation of products, because no amount of pure coding can make the kinds of technological leaps that are necessary. To that end, it behooves us not to bash it, or at least only to evaluate it based on what it is.
It just hit me that this is, like, more evil than Microsoft.